[Discussion] Itachi defeats Kisame pretty easily.

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If they were to fight each other. Itachi would easily defeat Kisame how? Kisame has no counter to Tsukoyomi. People keep saying that Samehada can release Kisame from genjutsu, my question is HOW? Sure Samehada is a living creature. But it all it does is eat chakra, and can give it to Kisame, replenishing it. Or can fuse with Kisame and transform him. All that happens is Kisame's shape changes, and he can absorb chakra through contact. Samehada dosent have the intelligence to "disrupt" kisame's chakra, or even act on its own. Everything it does is via instinct. Once Kisame is caught in genjutsu, Samehada has no idea on what to do without the Kisame using it. It may lash out to protect its favorite food source just like any living thing would.
 

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Itachi > Kisame Mid diff
 

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we already knew that.
 

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Yes Itachi>Kisame we know we know good thread though
 

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but isn't that giving chakra will disrupt the flow..there by nullifying the genjutsu?
 

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I agree. I do however feel like samehada would somehow be able to break tsukuyomi though. Maybe not I just have a feeling it could.
 

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Kisame can't break Tsukuyomi. GG
 

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I'm going to break this down.

1] Samehada is a sensor [ ]

2] Sensors are able to distinguish whether they or someone else is under genjutsu or not [ ]-[ ]

3] On it's own, Samehada can sense/distinguish Kisame's sense of urgency without Kisame prompting it to do anything [ ]

4] Samehada transfers some of into Kisame to disturb his chakra flow thus breaking Kisame out of any genjutsu [Not including Tsukiyomi]

Furthermore, Itachi isn't by any means defeating Kisame 'easily' as you say. It will be with nothing short of high-difficulty for Itachi to bring someone as monstrous as Kisame down.
 

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It's already be decided Kisame would win. Not only would he break it, he can avoid it, He can use Samehada to sense. Itachi has no counter to waterdome or GSB, or 1000 sharks, or sharkdance. nuff said
 

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Itachi wins mid diff at best , even if Samehada can break Tsukuyomi , THE GEN LAST 1 SECOND in the real world , so by the time Samehada would realize it , Kisame would be mindr*ped.
Not to mention the others deadly jutsu of Itachi.
 

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People should remember that Tsukiyomi happens in a matter of milliseconds. Samehada, even with intelligence, wouldn't have time to react and save Kisame.
 

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When Kisame Transforms, Samehada will break the Tsukyomi by disrupting Kisame's regular chakra flow.
After that, if Itachi uses Tsukyomi again,
There's no way Kisame breaks it unless he keeps on reverting back and changing.
 

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When Kisame Transforms, Samehada will break the Tsukyomi by disrupting Kisame's regular chakra flow.
After that, if Itachi uses Tsukyomi again,
There's no way Kisame breaks it unless he keeps on reverting back and changing.

Tsukuyomi last only 1 second dude.
 

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I feel this needs no explanation...Itachi imho is without a shred of doubt superior, and an explanation why would be a downward spike of my own intelligence.
 

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I'm going to break this down.

1] Samehada is a sensor [ ]

2] Sensors are able to distinguish whether they or someone else is under genjutsu or not [ ]-[ ]

3] On it's own, Samehada can sense/distinguish Kisame's sense of urgency without Kisame prompting it to do anything [ ]

4] Samehada transfers some of into Kisame to disturb his chakra flow thus breaking Kisame out of any genjutsu [Not including Tsukiyomi]

Furthermore, Itachi isn't by any means defeating Kisame 'easily' as you say. It will be with nothing short of high-difficulty for Itachi to bring someone as monstrous as Kisame down.

THIS^^^

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there's Genjutsu and then there's Tsukuyomi...That sword would be mind ****ed as well.
 
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