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All i have't to say is this if itachi get trap inside obitos dimension could he get out? nope don't think so...
I myself know Itachi could defeat Obito. Of course Obito that did not posses Gezo and Rinnegan. In a 1 vs 1 Mangekyou battle between the two Itachi takes it. Basicly Itachi did not challenge him based off his "madara" hype. Obito did not challenge Itachi because Itachi could defeat him.
All i have't to say is this if itachi get trap inside obitos dimension could he get out? nope don't think so...
I'm willing to do a vs debate with you on Mangekyou Sharingan Itachi> Mangekyou Sharingan Obitocalling someone a loser and pathetic shell of his former then afraid to face him 1v1 yeah lol. if he is way stronger than minato as itachi fanboys claims. he can beat tobi with no sweat since minato defeated tobi in just minutes. minato even said " are you madara? it doesnt matter who you are :rofl:
obito didnt want to kill itachi since he knew he can use him. if he consider him as a threat he would just order akatsuki to kill itachi
I'm willing to do a vs debate with you on Mangekyou Sharingan Itachi> Mangekyou Sharingan Obito
This is correct but MS Itachi is more than capable of beating Ms Obito.obito > itachi done!
Pretty obvious, I'd say, but hey, here's the argument:
1. Obito said Itachi could kill him with knowledge
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And knowledge is gained from experience, for those of you who don't know.
So Obito carefully guarding his secrets means he was the one keeping his distance.
2. Why didn't Itachi kill him then?
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Why didn't the Five Kages and all of their guards kill Tobi?
Why'd didn't Minato with all of Konoha kill Tobi?
Because Obito can phase out of and teleport away from any fight.
3. Itachi was the one (who couldn't teleport) surrounded by Tobi's allies.
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Why didn't Tobi defeat Itachi and control him with genjutsu like he did with Yagura?
Why didn't Tobi store Itachi in the handy-dandy pocket-dimension until he needed him like with Torrune?
Why didn't Tobi replace Itachi with a White Zetsu clone for Sasuke like he did with Kisame?
Why did Tobi hide in the shadows for years when Itachi joined, and didn't emerge until just before Itachi died?
4. Itachi was Tobi's problem.
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Regardless of translation specifics, Itachi was a problem.
And Tobi didn't make a move on Konoha until Itachi was dead.
If Tobi betrayed a pact after the pactmaker died, that means he didn't respect the pact.
Only the pactmaker. Tobi didn't move purely because he didn't want to cross a living Itachi.
He had Akatsuki annihilating Konoha before Itachi's body was even cold.
4. Tobi thought Itachi was the bee's-knees. Itachi thought Tobi ['current Madara'] was pathetic.
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And you'd be surprised how many can't differentiate 'pathetic shell of former self' from 'invincible Madara.'
5. Tobi's Kamui has an obvious counter.
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Tobi cannot attack and defend at the same time.
Gai countered Obito's offense with his nunchucks. It isn't unstoppable.
But guess who has clones? Guess who can fool a Dragon Sage and EMS user with feints?
Guess whose clones explode, which can make Obito absorb explosive damage like Konan did?
Heck, he has exploding clones and one of the fastest ninjutsu and one the fastest jutsu molding speeds.
Itachi's a walking counter to Obito's Kamui.
The author wouldn't even have to create new jutsu out of nowehere for Itachi to look great...
5. Tobi's only other primary jutsu was Izanagi
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Who was that ninja with the jutsu specifically designed to trounce Izanagi?
Conclusion
So, why didn't the terminally ill teenager with deteriorating eyesight that was waltzing around the enemy base as a known double-agent for nearly a decade, who was actively keeping the Big Bad from attacking Konoha again, kill the Big Bad? Because the Big Bad was hiding in the shadows. He was hiding from Itachi so effectively that even the readers didn't know he existed until the 300 chapters in.
I'm willing to do a vs debate with you on Mangekyou Sharingan Itachi> Mangekyou Sharingan Obito
This is correct but MS Itachi is more than capable of beating Ms Obito.
Dont even Bother. MS Obito obliterates MS Itachi. I don't want to humiliate Itachi by putting him up against Tobi U_U
This is brilliant and I like how it was put together! I don't believe you're being a fanboy at all, all of Itachi's skills are relevant and put to good use![]()
I havent done anything and everybody is entitled to their opinon, however i had to address this logic that if itachi couldve killed him he wouldve. When your opponent claims to be madara, even if itachi said he was a shell of his former self, you would think before picking a fight. Itachi was hesitant towards madara and not obito. He didnt know who obito was or rather he didnt know that obito was 'madara'
I do believe that itachi was caught between two minds.
His life goal is basically to die by sasuke's hands. Which in tern will give him the e/ms, but also get rid of the cm that orochimaru had tagged sasuke with.
If Itachi had fought the person he believed was madara, going by madara who's hype is over 9000 he wasnt certain that he would win and if he doesnt win, but rather loses his main goal which is sasuke fails. So he decided to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Do what he has to do with sasuke and use this opporunity to get rid of the person who calls himself madara by implanting amaetrasu.
If perhaps itachi didnt plan on dying by sasuke's hands and giving him a new power/getting rid of orochimaru, then he mightv'e approached this person who calls himself madara. After all he had nothing to lose. If he lost, he was gonna die sooner or later from his illness anyway.
He just weighed the two options and went with sasuke.
Btw you dont help with your trolling. However nobody is in a position to judge, not when they have done something similar with a character they favour. Anyway i just needed to address something. Never intended on getting into a vs thread or anything else
Don't participate in vs thread's either and when i do i make it brief. True obito has shown great durability feat due to hashirama's dna and what not. However i didnt mention taijutsu and neither genjutsu because neither would work on either opponent, i stuck to ninjutsu. You say itachi doesnt have powerful ninjutsu's, i take it you mean to overcome tobi's durability. Actually Suigadan and Bunshin Daibakuha will test tobi's durability. You say all of tobi's fire jutsu's are haxxed, Gokakyu and Bakufu Ranbu are the only fire jutsu feats he has. The former itachi has already shown along with a couple more.
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i seriously wonder why people go against the manga