Itachi could have killed Obito...

[Naruto Boss]

that would be a tough challenge

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

this pretty much sums up what i was gonna say...

Great minds think alike they say. xd

 

[Legendary Broly]

Just Stahp. :|

 

[Uchiha Legacy]

I agree with everything stated, others are just in denial.

EDIT: I would rep you, but apparently I have to spread it around more first.:y

 

[Wolfang714]

With enough intel maybe Itachi could have been able to defeat Obito. One thing that worries me is Obito's Senju half. A hit with that half at full power would devastate. Also, Itachi was a pacifist, so seeking a fight against who he thought was "Madara Uchiha" probably wasn't the best choice at the time. One last thought: When Itachi was talking about how "Madara" was a pathetic, defeated loser who was unworthy of being called the Uchiha's strongest... I think Itachi was partly trolling Sasuke so he could get him in the mood. Notice how he used the word "Today." That implies that he will "retrieve" Sasuke's eyes in order to achieve the Eternal Mangekyou, although he knew he wasn't. He was just setting the mood. Just a thought.

 

[BloodSeed]

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obito was talking about that situation (surprise amaterasu from sasuke) that if he havent have a secret he would have die RIGHT NOW. thats itachi's only chance to kill obito caught him offguard but itachi fails

 

[Lightbringer]

People seem to forget we haven't Obito's true potential yet. He still has his fire jutsu and woodstyle to utilize against kakashi/naruto, etc. Not only that, but Madara trained and taught him everything he knew, which basically makes him EMS Madara without a Susanoo. I don't think Itachi can defeat him. Itachi is smart, but so is Obito. Being called a genius is nothing new, since even Rock Lee was called a genius, but look at him now compared to Naruto.

 

[Darth Vader]

Duh.

 

[Punk Hazard]

To express amusement toward your incorrect conviction of what a pact inherently entails.

I am not incorrect. One.can.choose to follow the pact after the.other person(s) in the pact dies, but the pact is broken by death.

 

[Simple Math]

No he could'nt..

 

[Bogard]

Your thread is just a wishful thinking. Anyone can come up with part of mangas and believe it's the truth. What is even funny is that you cut parts of Itachis sentence to recompose it for your own will. Itachi refered to Obito(who he thought was Madara) as invincible and he admitted himself that he needed EMS to surpass him

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[ll BL4CKM00N ll]

I believe a fight between these two are 50/50 on both sides. Itachi's rant about Obito was only to fuel Sasuke and to seal his false intentions into him, giving him more reason to believe he was evil. So you really can't use use what he said about Obito as a valid sorce.

 

[ixc]

People seem to forget we haven't Obito's true potential yet. He still has his fire jutsu and woodstyle to utilize against kakashi/naruto, etc. Not only that, but Madara trained and taught him everything he knew, which basically makes him EMS Madara without a Susanoo. I don't think Itachi can defeat him. Itachi is smart, but so is Obito. Being called a genius is nothing new, since even Rock Lee was called a genius, but look at him now compared to Naruto.

We've never seen Itachi at full power and yet owned all of his opponents. Not to mention that he never intended to kill them. And yes a great counter for Kamui is 1 of Itachi's Kage Bunshin's that can explode while being absorbed by Obito. People only give credits to Obito and Kakashi since Kamui has been seen more in the Manga. It's just another technique that has a weakness like Itachi mentioned. With that in the back of his mind he can take on anyone. And Itachi is way too smart for Obito.

 

[mafo]

great post..chapter 609 shows easy it is to counter obito...His lack of intelligence would be his demise against Itachi

 

[garas56]

No he cannot hes to weak If u think izanami can be casted dont think Obito will fall for it Obito>>>itachi meybe mid dif
In the dimension Itachi wuld be just an target.

 

[YellowFlash1]

He can't beat obito .... That's a stupid remark tbh.

They had a deal, Obito merely kept his deal untill itachi was dead.

Itachi loved the leaf and the biggest threat to the leaf village was obito don't you think if he was given the chance then he would have killed him? He waited till he was dead to try and come up with a plan which back fired on him.....

Obito merely kept his around being he was an asset to him, merely because he was a skilled ninja that would help them collect Bujjis !

 

[IIB7252]

I agree. If tobi could have killed itachi he wouldn't have made a pact with him in the first place.

Spot on brother....

Pretty obvious, I'd say, but hey, here's the argument:

1. Obito said Itachi could kill him with knowledge

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And knowledge is gained from experience, for those of you who don't know.

So Obito carefully guarding his secrets means he was the one keeping his distance.

2. Why didn't Itachi kill him then?

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Why didn't the Five Kages and all of their guards kill Tobi?

Why'd didn't Minato with all of Konoha kill Tobi?

Because Obito can phase out of and teleport away from any fight.

3. Itachi was the one (who couldn't teleport) surrounded by Tobi's allies.

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Why didn't Tobi defeat Itachi and control him with genjutsu like he did with Yagura?

Why didn't Tobi store Itachi in the handy-dandy pocket-dimension until he needed him like with Torrune?

Why didn't Tobi replace Itachi with a White Zetsu clone for Sasuke like he did with Kisame?

Why did Tobi hide in the shadows for years when Itachi joined, and didn't emerge until just before Itachi died?

4. Itachi was Tobi's problem.

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Regardless of translation specifics, Itachi was a problem.

And Tobi didn't make a move on Konoha until Itachi was dead.

If Tobi betrayed a pact after the pactmaker died, that means he didn't respect the pact.

Only the pactmaker. Tobi didn't move purely because he didn't want to cross a living Itachi.

He had Akatsuki annihilating Konoha before Itachi's body was even cold.

4. Tobi thought Itachi was the bee's-knees. Itachi thought Tobi ['current Madara'] was pathetic.

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And you'd be surprised how many can't differentiate 'pathetic shell of former self' from 'invincible Madara.'

5. Tobi's Kamui has an obvious counter.

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Tobi cannot attack and defend at the same time.

Gai countered Obito's offense with his nunchucks. It isn't unstoppable.

But guess who has clones? Guess who can fool a Dragon Sage and EMS user with feints?

Guess whose clones explode, which can make Obito absorb explosive damage like Konan did?

Heck, he has exploding clones and one of the fastest ninjutsu and one the fastest jutsu molding speeds.

Itachi's a walking counter to Obito's Kamui.

The author wouldn't even have to create new jutsu out of nowehere for Itachi to look great...

5. Tobi's only other primary jutsu was Izanagi

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Who was that ninja with the jutsu specifically designed to trounce Izanagi?

Conclusion​

So, why didn't the terminally ill teenager with deteriorating eyesight that was waltzing around the enemy base as a known double-agent for nearly a decade, who was actively keeping the Big Bad from attacking Konoha again, kill the Big Bad? Because the Big Bad was hiding in the shadows. He was hiding from Itachi so effectively that even the readers didn't know he existed until the 300 chapters in.

Take a bow sweetheart...HATSOFF...NO 1 could have put it in a better way...*****....great effort...U have put it in a such a lovely way that u havent left any valid questions unanswered...Its pretty obvious after reading ur comment that ITACHI would have owned him...

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[YellowFlash1]

Spot on brother....




Take a bow sweetheart...HATSOFF...NO 1 could have put it in a better way...*****....great effort...U have put it in a such a lovely way that u havent left any valid questions unanswered...Its pretty obvious after reading ur comment that ITACHI would have owned him...

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Those are pathetic excuses..... For one, it's a manga so everything happens for a reason. If he was to keep itachi captured then we wouldn't have seen him and he has to play a part of the story.

Itachi didn't have anything that could hurt Itachi, infact itach never even knew who it was. Itachi didn't have a chance of killing tobi.

Itachi was a key piece to the akatsuki and was willing going to do what Obito said, why would he keep him captured.

Itachi couldn't hope to defeat him because itachi doesn't have to the feat's to hit him. He beat's him in intelligence although obito just stay intangible and let's itachi ware himself out. Susanoo can't keep obito away, nothiing can!

Although put it this way, If itachi loved the leaf village, then why didn't he kill the biggest threat to the village? Considering that noone knew about tobi.

 

[Takos]

Pretty obvious, I'd say, but hey, here's the argument:

1. Obito said Itachi could kill him with knowledge

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And knowledge is gained from experience, for those of you who don't know.

So Obito carefully guarding his secrets means he was the one keeping his distance.​

I agree with this one. If Itachi had full knowledge on Obito, he would have defeated him with preparations and a trap. After all, even Konan almost defeated Obito without full knowledge. So I agree, but it isn't really anything outstanding.

2. Why didn't Itachi kill him then?

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Why didn't the Five Kages and all of their guards kill Tobi?

Why'd didn't Minato with all of Konoha kill Tobi?

Because Obito can phase out of and teleport away from any fight.

That's not exactly the reason. Obito would have harder time escaping from a fight against Itachi than just nullifying one failed Amaterasu assassination attempt after Itachi's death. If Itachi hoped Ama trap could kill Obito then he should have known confronting Obito face to face would be even better.

The real reason why Itachi did not do anything is because of hype. Obito was believed to be Madara by Itachi, and Itachi preferred not to fight him since he thought he would have lost. That's why he resorted to a post-death trap (which Obito called a fail even though he was surprised).

3. Itachi was the one (who couldn't teleport) surrounded by Tobi's allies.

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Why didn't Tobi defeat Itachi and control him with genjutsu like he did with Yagura?
Because Yagura started the blood mist even before Obito was evil, which implies he was controlled by Madara at first, not Obito. Obito most likely just continued what Madara started.
Besides, Itachi is better in genjutsu than Yagura. It would be more difficult to put him in it.
Why didn't Tobi store Itachi in the handy-dandy pocket-dimension until he needed him like with Torrune?
Why should he? They were cooperating anyway for the whole time, even though it was a pact of convenience rather than friendship. Imprisoning him would create a risk of Itachi stopping this cooperation.
Why didn't Tobi replace Itachi with a White Zetsu clone for Sasuke like he did with Kisame?
Because Itachi's death was one of the reasons as to why Sasuke joined Obito and that was the plan.
Why did Tobi hide in the shadows for years when Itachi joined, and didn't emerge until just before Itachi died?
Again - why should he? Nagato, Zetsu and Itachi knew about Obito anyway (even though they thought he was Madara, except for Zetsu). It's not like he pretended to be a goofus because of Itachi.

4. Itachi was Tobi's problem.

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Regardless of translation specifics, Itachi was a problem.

And Tobi didn't make a move on Konoha until Itachi was dead.

If Tobi betrayed a pact after the pactmaker died, that means he didn't respect the pact.

Only the pactmaker. Tobi didn't move purely because he didn't want to cross a living Itachi.

He had Akatsuki annihilating Konoha before Itachi's body was even cold

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They had a pact, as I said. If it would truly be nuisance to Obito, he would have simply ordered Nagato to kill Itachi. You might argue whether Itachi was stronger than MS Obito and some even argue (though it's stupid) whether Nagato can kill Itachi, but even the most devoted fanboys would agree that Obito and Nagato together would rape Itachi badly.

4. Tobi thought Itachi was the bee's-knees. Itachi thought Tobi ['current Madara'] was pathetic.

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And you'd be surprised how many can't differentiate 'pathetic shell of former self' from 'invincible Madara.'

He told this to Sasuke so it is likely it was a lie just like other things.

5. Tobi's Kamui has an obvious counter.

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Tobi cannot attack and defend at the same time.

Gai countered Obito's offense with his nunchucks. It isn't unstoppable.
No one said it was.
But guess who has clones? Guess who can fool a Dragon Sage and EMS user with feints?
Itachi has clones and so does Kakashi. Itachi can fool a Dragon Sage and EMS user with feints but Kakashi can fool Itachi with feints. In other words, this argument doesn't really work, since Kakashi can do all this as well but has some hard time against Obito right now. Thinking that Itachi's case would be different is pure speculation.
Guess whose clones explode, which can make Obito absorb explosive damage like Konan did?
Again, Kakashi can do even better in this situation, since he has a raiton bunshin, which paralyzes the opponent on contact. And somehow he still cannot compete with Obito.
Heck, he has exploding clones and one of the fastest ninjutsu and one the fastest jutsu molding speeds.
Sorry for bringing Kakashi all the time, but he's on similar level to Itachi and is currently fighting Obito, so he's a perfect example. Kakashi has raiton bunshins and a much wider spectrum of techniques.
Itachi's a walking counter to Obito's Kamui.
According to what's going on, it's Kakashi who's a perfect counter to Obito.
The author wouldn't even have to create new jutsu out of nowehere for Itachi to look great...

5. Tobi's only other primary jutsu was Izanagi

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Who was that ninja with the jutsu specifically designed to trounce Izanagi?

I agree with this, Izanagi would be useless against Itachi.

Conclusion

So, why didn't the terminally ill teenager with deteriorating eyesight that was waltzing around the enemy base as a known double-agent for nearly a decade, who was actively keeping the Big Bad from attacking Konoha again, kill the Big Bad? Because the Big Bad was hiding in the shadows. He was hiding from Itachi so effectively that even the readers didn't know he existed until the 300 chapters in.]

That's kind of a repetition.
I gave my points, now I'll also conclude and give the arguments as to why Itachi maybe could have NOT killed Obito.
1) As I said, Itachi would be dead if Obito wanted it much. Proof: He was ordering Nagato around, he could order him to get rid of Itachi.
2) Obito was wise enough not to reveal everything to Itachi. That's why Itachi was fooled into believing he was Madara and therefore was afraid to face him in battle. Proof: Itachi resorted to post-death assasination trap instead of fighting him.
3) Even if they fought face to face, it's not like Itachi would win for sure, even with knowledge. Both would stand a chance.

We've never seen Itachi at full power and yet owned all of his opponents. Not to mention that he never intended to kill them. And yes a great counter for Kamui is 1 of Itachi's Kage Bunshin's that can explode while being absorbed by Obito. People only give credits to Obito and Kakashi since Kamui has been seen more in the Manga. It's just another technique that has a weakness like Itachi mentioned. With that in the back of his mind he can take on anyone. And Itachi is way too smart for Obito.

Lol. He was ABOVE his full power, as he was immortal and had infinite chakra, yet he still would have been smashed hard by Nagato if it wasn't for Naruto and Bee.

 

[VongolaX]

Itachi was obito's pawn....he needed powerful akatsuki members to complete his plan
When kabuto fought the uchiha bros., he stated that he needed itachi to be his gineu pig
in edo form. he has the most potiential in akatsuki and tobi could not
let him go to waste until his plans meets the criteria.