the uchiha were not very popular so how would sasuke be excepted by konoha
no they were popular but they were also liars with a bloodsoaked destiny of hate as shinobis. itachi invited this fate on his own brother by making him a shinobi. he shat on the good things uchihas wanted (look after sasuke, take danzo down) and ignored them.
itachi chose to be the international criminal (who killed the uchiha) so sasuke can be viewed as the hero who killed him and for the greater peace of konoha
so gaining a volatile former traitor with hate in his heart is of great importance to konoha? or should they just kill him and save them the trouble. i say the latter. no self respecting hokage would just let him back in but tsunades biased to naruto. once danzo took over first thing he did was issue a kill order for a known missing nin. and if danzo didnt get him, raikage would think konoha is weak and attack them since they "cant even round up their traitors".
its not in sasukes priorities to go back, even if itachi was killed without a hitch. because the finger poke would remain. itachi screwed up his whole plan when he poked and apologised to sasuke.
the corrupted system you speak of is why itachi didn't have options
no he did. he just was too stupid to see the options he had. he had an all powerful genjutsu user as a best friend yet lets him kill himself instead of using the remaining eye.
itachi's plan was for sasuke to live (mainly) (itachi kill oro) and for sasuke to hate itachi so much (motivation to get stronger) and kill itachi so he can go back to konoha as the hero and be good.
yes so in short, corrupt and torture sasuke (tsukyomi), force him to betray konoha for someone itachi should have stopped years ago and therefroe have every jounin gunning for him (it was only cos of oros invasion that they sent genins to bring sasuke home), and somehow find itachi in time before itachis drugs run out and before oro can complete the ritual. which is a lot of gambling that sasuke wont die somewhere along the way or simply choose not to transplant the eyes. or maybe sasuke could die during it from bloodloss since the only capable medical missing nin was either obito, or someone who wants to capture sasuke not help him (kabuto). itachis planning was horrible as sasuke only survived because of obitos help. if he had gone down ANY other path he could not have been strong enough to survive against danzo/root/konoha. will sasuke just forget about everything and drop hate like an old shoe? no. hes got this corruption and it wont go away. it hasnt gone away. and konoah has no reason to treat him like a hero. he took out oro for them and no one cared. probably regretted sauce and oro didnt take each other out. if sasuke returned hed be known as uchihas second bad egg, alongside itachi and get treated like a piece of shit. sasuke needs this war to become a hero by joining narutos side again and getting the story straight with his actions. no one immediately forgave nagato did they? no one forgave danzo even though danzos sacrifice was alot more futile and tragic than nagato. so why is sasuke expected to be such a hero with a red carpet laid out for him by tachi? because itachis stupid and doesnt understand human nature.
what tobi did wasn't in itachi's plan
but it was expected. if tobi dies to amaterasu like itachi, the stupid idiot, thinks he will, then nagato will be gunning for sasukes head. or just fight him when nagato arrives in konoha to get naruto. and dont say itachi didnt expect pain to be the one to go get kyuubi. he would have had to eventually. no one was strong enough to fight pain as far as itachi was aware.
how can you explain to a kid that got his clan and parents killed, that it was the right choice, you can't so its better to keep the truth away from him (but itachi was dead when tobi manipulated sasuke)
so its live a lie and not trust your own brother to follow your path, or tell him the truth and hope that you corrupting him didnt work? but it did work, itachi. it did work. now sasuke is konohas greatest threat. itachi had plenty of options that night. he could have blamed the whole thing on tobi which is 50% factual, and absolve himself of all sins to sasuke, then let sasuke become stronger at his own pace in konoha thus being the major contradiction of a bloodsoaked clan.
but no. itachi is evil and turned sasuke into a second madara for no good reason.
i would like to add that itachi thought of him self as a shinobi of KONOHA not just the uchiha,
yeah konoha. the guys wanting him to murder children. says alot about itachis moral standards that he wants to fight for these corrupt old men and not his own mother and father. people were gona die either way judging by itachis approach of "kill everyone on one side or kill everyone on the other side" wich is an example of how ****ed up and insane he is. dude..YOU HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAS KA! MAKE HIM USE IT, NOT TEAR IT OUT.
the uchiha is a powerfull (few but powerful) clan who conspired to take over konoha, how would you put them in jail ?? confronting them is war that will cause the destruction of konoha
so if they want to take over, why would they destroy it? confronting them means they could settle this peacefully since uchihas wold know the jig is up and they will be branded as traitors by the world. no point in winning if your just gonna be invaded later. no one thought to tell them that. why not jsut surrender and let them have their political power? at the very least they can be puppet rulers, who can be assasinated at any given moment and replaced by a konoha hokage.
let the uchihas think they won.
and the war for konoha is only a worst case scenario. itachi thought and was tricked into believing genocide is the only way to stop an inevitable war. someone tell this guy there was no war and wasnt going to be.
itachi chose to kill the uchiha (as a member of konoha) for the greater peace (they were less).
itachi chose to butcher children women and his own mother because of the actions of a few adult men plotting. why not just kill the ringleaders and be done with it? how can a few uchiha kids and preggers women overthrow a village? if thats what hes gonna do for peace i wouldnt want to live in peace. he shoved a sword through his own mothers heart for a reason, but it doesnt make the act itself remotely ok or acceptable or even make sense. how is mikoto a threat to konoha? as i said itachi can kill the ringleaders and theres no one to lead this attack. what could uchihas possibly do when all they have are kids, girls and old men? if they do attack then itachi can finish the job. but no, he chose to kill them all seemingly in a 2 second decision
"whats that? you want me to commit mass genocide, the worst act of horrific murder of children women and elderly since yagura's reign? ok sure, creepy old man with creepy face and creepy arm! ill be loyal to you forever!"
"wait itachi..dont you think itd be better to prioritise saving lives and killing as few as possible before worrying about one little kid?"
"KILL THEM ALLLLL"
"you could even implant shisuis eye and use it yourself-"
"KIIIILL THEEEEM ALLLLLL!"
"why not threaten and blackmail them? say you have the support of the whole sand village-"
"KILLLLLLLLL-"
"fuk you...its your damn clan, you kill however many kids and family members you want. i wont stop you"
He was just a kid who thought his path was right and eventually realized he was wrong.
it took him dying in his 20s to realise he screwed up. all his actions post massacre were horrible cruel and traitorous
