Itachi = best brother ever

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revenge is the fastest way to become strong. itachi didnt know the title of the show is 'naruto' and naruto gonna beat the evil and become the hero...
itachi thought sasuke should hate him too much and become the strongest in the village n then kill him and become the hero and then fight against akatsuki because he himself was close to his death n couldn't do it.
making friends = forget about revenge
 

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Not exactly, he wanted Sasuke to be looked at like a hero because he defeated Itachi - that's what he wanted. Itachi stayed a Konoha shinobi for the rest of his life - he just wanted Sasuke to be regarded like a hero when he went back to Konoha after he killed Itachi.
Was this before or after he made a assassination attempt on a kage's life and murdered a bunch a samurai?
 

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problem is, sasuke does not understand what does it mean to be a true
SHINOBI, Itachi was one he was a true shinobi, now sasuke doesn't understand that.
why did sauske have to become a shinobi? why couldn't he be a painter, if itachi truly cared about his brother he would not let him get involved with the brutal killing shinobis. its like advocating to your brother that he should definitely join the army and go to Afghanistan. Itachi should have set up a life for sasuke as a painter. instead of torturing him he would genjutsu him into perusing his lifelong dream as a painter.

but seriously? woudn't it have been more humane to cut of one or two of sasukes arms so that he would have have become a shinobi`?

in real life itachi would have been Breivik, fighting for something he believed was right, but what Breivik/itachi did was horrible.
 

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Was this before or after he made a assassination attempt on a kage's life and murdered a bunch a samurai?
Sasuke made those attempts because he wants to take revenge for his brother. Itachi underestimated the effect of his words and hadn't forseen that Tobi would tell Sasuke the truth. Itachi expected Sasuke to go back to Konoha after he defeated him - how could he have known Tobi would get to Sasuke before that happened? He even wanted to make sure Tobi died by making sure Tobi was attacked as soon as Sasuke looked at him.
The last he wanted was for Sasuke to turn into a villain but he still loves him, no matter what choices he makes. Itachi understands he made mistakes regarding Sasuke but there isn't anything he can do now
 

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Sasuke made those attempts because he wants to take revenge for his brother. Itachi underestimated the effect of his words and hadn't forseen that Tobi would tell Sasuke the truth. Itachi expected Sasuke to go back to Konoha after he defeated him - how could he have known Tobi would get to Sasuke before that happened? He even wanted to make sure Tobi died by making sure Tobi was attacked as soon as Sasuke looked at him.
The last he wanted was for Sasuke to turn into a villain but he still loves him, no matter what choices he makes. Itachi understands he made mistakes regarding Sasuke but there isn't anything he can do now
His plan was 99% success that 1% is Tobi.
 

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Sasuke made those attempts because he wants to take revenge for his brother. Itachi underestimated the effect of his words and hadn't forseen that Tobi would tell Sasuke the truth. Itachi expected Sasuke to go back to Konoha after he defeated him - how could he have known Tobi would get to Sasuke before that happened? He even wanted to make sure Tobi died by making sure Tobi was attacked as soon as Sasuke looked at him.
The last he wanted was for Sasuke to turn into a villain but he still loves him, no matter what choices he makes. Itachi understands he made mistakes regarding Sasuke but there isn't anything he can do now
Well when you kill your family and your brother becomes a terrorist, the only thing you can do is love him right?
 

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why did sauske have to become a shinobi? why couldn't he be a painter, if itachi truly cared about his brother he would not let him get involved with the brutal killing shinobis. its like advocating to your brother that he should definitely join the army and go to Afghanistan. Itachi should have set up a life for sasuke as a painter. instead of torturing him he would genjutsu him into perusing his lifelong dream as a painter.

but seriously? woudn't it have been more humane to cut of one or two of sasukes arms so that he would have have become a shinobi`?

in real life itachi would have been Breivik, fighting for something he believed was right, but what Breivik/itachi did was horrible.
he couldn't be a painter because he already knew he's gonna be a shinobi. sasuke always tried to be acknowledged by his father and for that very reason he did all the hardwork.

how could itachi convince his brother to become a painter after he kills his parents. this is stupid.

and he couldn't let sasuke live his whole life under a genjutsu because this is the reason why allied forces fighting against tobi. they don't want to live under infinite genjutsu.
 
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Could someone explain this if he is such a great brother



He definitely loved Sasuke but by his own admission, he did a terrible job as his brother.
 

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Could someone explain this if he is such a great brother



He definitely loved Sasuke but by his own admission, he did a terrible job as his brother.
that part of the story was utter rubbish.. all contradictions arise from those few mangas..

like the one you mentioned and the part where kisame and itachi were afraid of a sannin like they were tenten and konohamaru although in part 2, he one shotted a sannin.

itachi also didnt stop kisame when he was going to cut naruto's legs... may b kishi didnt have a thought of making him a hero later..
 

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Well when you kill your family and your brother becomes a terrorist, the only thing you can do is love him right?
Listen, I'm not defending Itachi's actions, I'm just saying why he did what he did. I'm objective; just stating the facts like it is.
Besides a few chapters ago, Itachi clearly said he would love Sasuke no matter how he turned out. He has always loved him, that's why he accepted the order to kill his clan, so that his brother was spared.
 

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why did sauske have to become a shinobi? why couldn't he be a painter, if itachi truly cared about his brother he would not let him get involved with the brutal killing shinobis. its like advocating to your brother that he should definitely join the army and go to Afghanistan. Itachi should have set up a life for sasuke as a painter. instead of torturing him he would genjutsu him into perusing his lifelong dream as a painter.

but seriously? woudn't it have been more humane to cut of one or two of sasukes arms so that he would have have become a shinobi`?

in real life itachi would have been Breivik, fighting for something he believed was right, but what Breivik/itachi did was horrible.
Sasuke looks no good at painting xd Sai replaced Sasuke not with regard to art skills :p

Well when you kill your family and your brother becomes a terrorist, the only thing you can do is love him right?
Look man, that's how siblings are... it is kinda hard to hate your siblings in certain families, I come from one such family, take my word.

OT: About what Itachi was pushed into, these were his options of dealing with Sasuke:
1) Let him die at the hands of ANBU
2) Kill him himself.
3) Modify his memory so he doesn't remember his brother or family.
4) Not do anything.
5) Telling him the truth.
6) Doing what he did.

What all choices result in:
1) No way of leaving behind the Uchiha blood + can't take it. No.
2) Just NO!
3) That would make him weak and turn him into (an awesome looking elite boy) Playboy. (Road to Ninja inspired) He'd never be ready for what he is destined to face as an Uchiha.
4) Sasuke would chase Itachi before he was ready and get into a lot more trouble than he finds himself in now.
5) Same as 4.
6) Hate it... "but there is no better choice when I have little time to think about it and I am 13 for God's sake!"

think about it... :hint:
 

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why did sauske have to become a shinobi? why couldn't he be a painter, if itachi truly cared about his brother he would not let him get involved with the brutal killing shinobis. its like advocating to your brother that he should definitely join the army and go to Afghanistan. Itachi should have set up a life for sasuke as a painter. instead of torturing him he would genjutsu him into perusing his lifelong dream as a painter.

but seriously? woudn't it have been more humane to cut of one or two of sasukes arms so that he would have have become a shinobi`?

in real life itachi would have been Breivik, fighting for something he believed was right, but what Breivik/itachi did was horrible.
Well, Itachi killed the D-Bags,who he was actuall becoming withdrawn from in the first place, who were going to attack Konaha, probably lose, let Sasuke get killed in the process, leaving the village and nation weak and open to outside war that they would probably get destroyed.
I mean sure, they were his family, but he saw the for what they were long before he had to massacre them. He's a hero, even better from the fact that he gave up everything and had everyone hate him, whilst slowly dying and working with criminals.
 

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Itachi then expected Sasuke to go back to Konoha after his death, like he was getting home from a long walk. Why the **** would Sasuke wanna go back to the village responsible for most if not all of his hatred.
Well,he didn't intend for Sasuke ti find out the truth idiot he?He even planted Amaterasu in his eye to prevent Tobi telling him.
Anyway,Itachi tried his best and was a very loving brother,if not necessarily a good one.
You can't really ask for any more.

Anyway,what's with this thread's title?
 

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Itachi admits to being a bad brother, he was caring yes but screwed
sasuke over in the end.

Plan A: Mindf*ck my 7 year old brother and make him obsessed with revenge and being the avenger of the Uchiha clan.He then kills me and returns to leaf village as a hero, and never finds out the truth.
Flaw 1: 7 year old Sasuke could have just become a basket-case from all of trauma since he was only 7
Flaw 2 :How was he expecting konoha to take him back after killing Naruto to get MS like he told Sasuke too.
Flaw 3:Making someone obsessed with vengeance isn't smart if you're trying to avoid him taking vengeance on konoha.
Flaw 4: Danzo would have killed Sasuke if he returned. Sasuke lost all of his curse mark power and never would have gotten MS without finding out the truth about him, and Itachi is dead so Danzo would have no fear of retribution.

I gotta say, despite Itachi's good intentions, this plan is full of holes and would have inevitably failed no matter what happened, he really screwed Sasuke in the end because of poor planning. He even admits this.
 
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Well,he didn't intend for Sasuke ti find out the truth idiot he?He even planted Amaterasu in his eye to prevent Tobi telling him.
Anyway,Itachi tried his best and was a very loving brother,if not necessarily a good one.
You can't really ask for any more.

Anyway,what's with this thread's title?
This ^. By his own admission he was a bad brother so why are we arguing. If Itachi didn't make him so hellbent on hatred and revenge, especially when he came back to the leaf, Sasuke would have still grown up to be a great jonin he was a genius and started to care about his friends, all he ever wanted to do was become part of the police force.

By pushing him over the edge when he returned when he would have been fine, makes him a bad brother, even if his intentions were good.
 
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