Itachi and Tobirama vs MS Sasuke and Minato

[Bogard]

--With edos under tobiramas control he can bust sasukes susanoo with GKF just fine, as once that happens he and his clones proceed to mark sasuke and finish him off with hiraishingiri,

As if Sasuke had no partner Lol. Tobirama will already be busy enough who Minato who outclass him in speed. Also Minato can teleport him out of the range of GKF anytime with hiraishin. Databook also says hiraishingiri only works on distracted opponents(like against Madara for example)

--Minatos summons are garbage when itachi can either use genjutsu to turn them against him, or he can one shot them with amaterasu right off the bat,

With the partner method, it's the genjutsu that is useless. Itachi also won't get the time to prepare his amaterasu with a speedster like Minato around(Killer-B almost killed him when he tried during this war, so let alone Minato)

--With sasuke out of the picture as well as minatos summons gone, and tobirama having edos under control means that minato gets outnumbered and outclassed before he does anything at all

Except Sasuke won't get out of the picture. The edos can also be sealed with the 4 symbol seals that could also obbliterate Tobirama or Itachi if they are near

 

[Chazzi]

Itachi also won't get the time to prepare his amaterasu with a speedster like Minato around(Killer-B almost killed him when he tried during this war, so let alone Minato)

Show me scan of that please. As i remember it; Itachi was about to neg the shit out of both Naruto and Bee but the Solo King's crow saved their asses.

 

[Unorthodox]

Itachi and Tobirama wins this

they do not but i'll have fun watching you try to explain

With edos under tobiramas control he can bust sasukes susanoo with GKF just fine, as once that happens he and his clones proceed to mark sasuke and finish him off with hiraishingiri

Amaterasu 1 shots those edo easily or how about we come at this like a team battle should be approached Minato tags Sasuke so if GKF goes off he gets him out of there easy also tobirama would get caught up in his own explosion if he's to close Hiraishingiri is blocked via susanoo or sasuke swamps places with Minato and kills tobirama when he trys to blitz.

Minatos summons are garbage when itachi can either use genjutsu to turn them against him, or he can one shot them with amaterasu right off the bat

Genjutsu is easily countered by the partner method or what if Gamabunta lets sasuke put it under a genjutsu to cause immunity for Itachi's genjutsu amaterasu is put out by sasuke easily. Gamabunta and Sasuke uses they're infamous Enton oil combo Itachi is not putting out this much amaterasu without dying susanoo is a non factor one of Minato's clone sacrifice itselfs warping Itachi's susanoo off.

With sasuke out of the picture as well as minatos summons gone, and tobirama having edos under control means that minato gets outnumbered and outclassed before he does anything at all

Sasuke is not getting out of this battle anythime soon but lets say he does. Tobirama is outnumbering Minato is not a problem when Minato has the speed advantage plus kage bushin GFK are not doing anything to a ftg user periode if tobirama can get out of its Aoe Minato can to reverse summoning sends edo to mount (Whater ever its called) no more edo fodders to worry about and tobirama is simple outclass by his 2.0.

 

[Blaze Release]

Team 1 are superior and will take this high diff.
Believe alive itachi was superior than ms Sasuke who stil hadn't fully mastered the ms to the level of itachi, but also only agains't Kakashi did he managed to complete his susanoo and but then went blind. This being healthy itachi makes it all the obvious. Also the IC status means that this is MS Sasuke whom we know is reckless and has gotten himself into many life and death situations and has been saved. If he makes any of these hot headed errors agains't Tobirama or Itachi he gets killed rather swiftly if their intentions is to kill.

Alive Tobirama was said to be even stronger than his edo form and i believe at best Minato is equal to him.
Yes Minato has shown to have slightly superior hiraishin however that gap between the two is grossly overrated as everything with the exception of the barrier, Tobirama has shown to be able to do as well.

In the end they probably cancel each other out. Out of the 4 shinobi's here, Sasuke is the weakest, but also doesn't have the mindset to survive. One harsh decision, he dies and then puts Minato is a not so pleasant situation.

Tobirama > Ms Sasuke
Healthy itachi > Ms Sasuke

Sasuke is the turning point, because who ever kills sasuke on team 1 will do it with mid diff imo, don't see him winning or taking either to high diff. Whilst a fight between healthy itachi and minato or Tobirama and Minato will end in high diff. That means the person who takes on Sasuke will be in better shape to defeat an extremely exhausted Minato. Assuming he comes out of the fight with either of team 1, alive.

 

[Unorthodox]

Team 1 are superior and will take this high diff.
Believe alive itachi was superior than ms Sasuke who stil hadn't fully mastered the ms to the level of itachi, but also only agains't Kakashi did he managed to complete his susanoo and but then went blind. This being healthy itachi makes it all the obvious. Also the IC status means that this is MS Sasuke whom we know is reckless and has gotten himself into many life and death situations and has been saved. If he makes any of these hot headed errors agains't Tobirama or Itachi he gets killed rather swiftly if their intentions is to kill.

Alive Tobirama was said to be even stronger than his edo form and i believe at best Minato is equal to him.
Yes Minato has shown to have slightly superior hiraishin however that gap between the two is grossly overrated as everything with the exception of the barrier, Tobirama has shown to be able to do as well.

In the end they probably cancel each other out. Out of the 4 shinobi's here, Sasuke is the weakest, but also doesn't have the mindset to survive. One harsh decision, he dies and then puts Minato is a not so pleasant situation.

Tobirama > Ms Sasuke
Healthy itachi > Ms Sasuke

Sasuke is the turning point, because who ever kills sasuke on team 1 will do it with mid diff imo, don't see him winning or taking either to high diff. Whilst a fight between healthy itachi and minato or Tobirama and Minato will end in high diff. That means the person who takes on Sasuke will be in better shape to defeat an extremely exhausted Minato

Hot headed or not Sasuke and Itachi are a mirror matchup same with Minato & Tobirama

Sasuke vs itachi comes down to witch susanoo can hold up the longest I.E Sasuke's
Minato vs Tobirama comes down to speed witch Minato has him by

Sasuke & Minato wins. More combos and they're the better of both parties we can both play the bias role

 

[DHOH]

This is probably one of the closes match up I've seen...

As others said, theses 4 are evenly match and under the right circumstances they can all beat each other.. I'm going with Itachi and Tobirama because when these people work together, Itachi and Tobirama are leading them.. When Sasuke and Itachi fought Kabuto, Sasuke was back up. And when Tobirama and Minato fought Obito, Minato was back up.

We have four genius and Itachi and Tobirama has proven to better at being a genius.

 

[Blaze Release]

Hot headed or not Sasuke and Itachi are a mirror matchup same with Minato & Tobirama

I agree

Sasuke vs itachi comes down to witch susanoo can hold up the longest I.E Sasuke's

Nope. We have seen IC ms Sasuke's fighting style. He is going to burn himself out and possibly go blind in this fight as his usage and dependence of the MS exceeds Itachi's usage/dependence, therefore i doubt it coming to a susanoo duel and if it came to end, Sasuke most likely will not be able to maintain it after all that prior spamming. Even then, Sasuke couldn't manage the full Susanoo until Kakashi came along and he went blind, that gives Itachi the edge in Susanoo. Add the legendary weapons and Ms itachi's susanoo is far superior

Minato vs Tobirama comes down to speed witch Minato has him by

Nope. Terms of Speed, both have hiraishin which is instant. However Minato has the superior shunshin
Terms of reaction, Tobirama actually has the superior feat of eluding, tagging and trolling jj Obito.
Inb4 Minato teleported out of 8 Gate Gai way. Don't insult my intelligence.

Sasuke & Minato wins. More combos and they're the better of both parties we can both play the bias role

But you see they are not. Ms Sasuke isn't better than MS Itachi, especially not healthy.
Minato being better than Tobirama is only with the slight advantage of hiraishin which apart from the barrier and kunai usage (which Tobirama can do as well), im actually not sure where the 'superior' hiraishin Minato fans are claiming. Superiority is there, but grossly exaggerated

Team 1 also have the advantage being near a water source, but also the superior battle intelligent and general intelligence overall.
Team 2 have possibly more useful summonings, but the likes of Aoda and Gamabunta will meet their end if needs be.

 

[Lariatoo]

Team 2 have possibly more useful summonings, but the likes of Aoda and Gamabunta will meet their end if needs be.

Well, this is MS Sasuke, só I rather we just use his feats with MS, that being his hawk only...

 

[DHOH]

Well, this is MS Sasuke, só I rather we just use his feats with MS, that being his hawk only...

That's just silly, he had the snakes way before the Hawks..

 

[Lariatoo]

He has a contract with the snakes, looks like he signed with during his time with oro and since oro wanted to take his body, it makes sense too. Sasuke has also shown different forms of the basic snake kucyiose.
He didn't sign this contract during the war when he showed Aoda therefore he already had it.

Hmm...
Okay then...
I just seemed that He lost his contract since a boss snake would be really usefull against Danzo to buy time or as a distraction against the Kages, But He did not used it until the war...
But not gonna argue with the facts...

 

[Beans2]

Minato and Sasuke win this, even if just barely

-Enton Susano'o prevents Tobirama from warping Sasuke out of Susano'o
-Gamabunta oil + enton combo would flood the battlefield with flames, erasing Tobirama's FTG marking with its aoe and possibly burning through Susano'o unless Itachi decides to use V3 or V4
-Minato can mark Sasuke and teleport him to safety if Sasuke needs quick defense from GFK
-Minato warps Itachi out of Susano'o and kills him with a kunai or rasengan
Tobirama is outnumbered and eventually gets killed

 

[Great Master Minato]

Team 2 Win This...
3 Tomoe Sasuke Pushed Itachi To His Limits...I'm Pretty Sure MS Sasuke Can Beat Itachi Or Atleast Keep Him Busy...
Tobirama With Just 1 Edo Ain't Do Shit Against Minato...Edos Are Non-Factor Against The Best Sealing Jutsu User In The Series!
GKF Can't Harm Gamabunta Cause He Can Jump Out Of It's Range Easily Or Minato Can Warped Him Out Of Danger...
Summons Are Not Restricted So SM Minato Beats Tobirama Rather Easily...I Mean Summons Will Give Minato Unlimited Perfect SM!!! How In The Hell Tobirama Stand A Chance?!
Overall Minato Is Stronger & More Versatile Than Tobirama...
@Those Who Think Tobirama Is Superior To Minato
Tobirama In His Best Day Is Equal To Base Minato So He's Not Gonna Solo Minato Unlike What You Think...
Even Kishi Portrayed Minato As The Superior One...

 

[Boston Rob]

Itachi solos alone