Itachi and Pain vs 5 Kage

Who wins

  • Akatsuki

    Votes: 14 66.7%
  • Kage

    Votes: 7 33.3%

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Nazgul

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Location - Konoha crater
Distance - 20m
Mindset - IC, To kill
Knowledge - Full for both sides
Restrictions - Gedo Mazo, KA
Conditions - Itachi is healthy, Raikage 2 arms, Paths start with full power.

I thought it would be an interesting fight.

Scenario 2: No Intel for the kages but full for the akatsuki. Looking at it now I might make this the primary condition.

No fanboys or flame please.
 
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Full for Akatsuki?

I wonder what the kages can do against Chibaku Tensei.

Itachi takes out Onoki or Mei with Amaterasu since they have zero intel on it.

Pain's Shinra Tensei easily stops the Raikage from blitzing them.

Preta absorbs Jinton.

Animal Path overwhelms Gaara.

Asura's attacks are fast enough to keep Tsunade busy.

Itachi doesn't even need Susanoo. He simply stays in the middle of Pain's defences and uses Tsukuyomi/Amaterasu to kill the kages.
 

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Preta path would abosrb any jinton.
Deva path takes A
Animal path takes tsuande (chameleon, Bird, Bull, multiplying Dog, lobster)
-Deva path will assist after he kill's A with a Bansho tennin + Itachi's Totsuka
Naraka and asura path takes mei.

After Sealing A, Itachi grabs a chair and some popcorn.
 
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Considering Itachi is healthy and he is a fighting with pain, this battle would be interesting. Itachi with healthy eyes, able to use mangekyo, definately a more troublesome foe than sasuke was to the kages. The difference between ms Sasuke and healthy ms Itachi is that healthy Itachi is like a kage level ms user compared to Sasuke. I'd say raikage would clearly have trouble with deva path, his bansho tenin and repel jutsus could put any of the kages at a disadvantage. Asura path would be immobolized by Tsunade; as she has powerful taijutsu. Mei is perfect against animal path. Gaara against human path. Oonoki against preta. However Naraka path would have to be quickly dispatched of, but with Itachi in the way, the five kage would be sealed if they pushed him too far.
 

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Scenario 1,kages win
mei's hidden mist blinds both sharingan and rinnegan,but not byakygan,so both itachi and pain will be affected. A blitzes asura and naraka,tsunade handles preta and human easily,mei uses her water and larva jutsus coupled woth the acid mist to overpower animal path.

Gaara and Onoki handle itachi and deva. Onoki's jinton would handle CT in it's early stages,ofcourse pain and itachi would be blinded by mei's hidden mist jutsus,allowing onoki to snipe them with a jinton,and allowing gaara to hit them from below. Kages high diff.

Scenario 2,pain and itachi win since you gave them full info and none for the kages
 

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Scenario 1,kages win
mei's hidden mist blinds both sharingan and rinnegan
Mei gets 1shot from Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi since Itachi has full intel and knows who the danger is. Mei's mist will also blind her team mates so I don't really think it's a wise move to make. If she does that Pain can simply use Chibaku Tensei and it's game over since they won't see it.

If not, Animal Path sends the summons towards the mist where they slaughter the blind kage.

There is no way in hell that Pain and Itachi can lose this.
 

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Mei gets 1shot from Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi since Itachi has full intel and knows who the danger is. Mei's mist will also blind her team mates so I don't really think it's a wise move to make. If she does that Pain can simply use Chibaku Tensei and it's game over since they won't see it.

If not, Animal Path sends the summons towards the mist where they slaughter the blind kage.

There is no way in hell that Pain and Itachi can lose this.
Amaterasu wont work if she stays close to gaara, his eyes would start bleeding anyway. Her mist didnt blind her team mates when she used it on madara,so it wont blind her here,also gaara has sand sensing and can detect where they are in the mist and tell onoki to shoot there,pain's animal summons will also be blinded too,how will they know where to hit?,CT is taken down by jinton

the mist is more devastating on dojutsus than normal eyes,bcos sharingan and rinnegan see chakra with colour,hidden mist is made purely of chakra,hence the dojutsu user would only see clouds of chakra everywhere,thats why it's so effective. Normal eyes would navigate through the mist better than a dojutsu. However as i said,the kages werent blinded when mei used it,so it dosent matter. All pain and itachi will see is clouds of chakra everywhere,onoki can make a giant rock golem to smash some paths alongside a giant karura structure of gaara,a jinton would end this.

Scenario 2 is a complete victory for the akatsuki,no doubt abt that
 

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Amaterasu wont work if she stays close to gaara, his eyes would start bleeding anyway.
They have no intel. Why would she? Also Gaara can't react to Amaterasu. His own sand MIGHT protect -HIM- on its own, but it won't automatically protect Mei.

also gaara has sand sensing
So? They are not in the desert.

pain's animal summons will also be blinded too,how will they know where to hit?
They are huge, they just have to suicide dive into the mist.

CT is taken down by jinton
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If Onoki tries to use Jinton Itachi roasts him. Bansho'tein also stops him.

the mist is more devastating on dojutsus than normal eyes,bcos sharingan and rinnegan see chakra with colour,hidden mist is made purely of chakra,hence the dojutsu user would only see clouds of chakra everywhere,thats why it's so effective.
They're 20 meters from each other. Also, Pain can always take to the skies and grab Itachi along.

However as i said,the kages werent blinded when mei used it,so it dosent matter.
That's pretty BS. Jutsus don't have friendly fire. If Bee fires a Bijuudama at 30 zetus and 30 ninjas they all die.
 

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They have no intel. Why would she? Also Gaara can't react to Amaterasu. His own sand MIGHT protect -HIM- on its own, but it won't automatically protect Mei.



So? They are not in the desert.



They are huge, they just have to suicide dive into the mist.



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If Onoki tries to use Jinton Itachi roasts him. Bansho'tein also stops him.



They're 20 meters from each other. Also, Pain can always take to the skies and grab Itachi along.



That's pretty BS. Jutsus don't have friendly fire. If Bee fires a Bijuudama at 30 zetus and 30 ninjas they all die.
they have intel in the first scenario,which is what i am debating about. If mei stays behind gaara then there is no problem. Amaterasu isnt instant,gaara reacts to explosions the instant they explode,he might not be able to protect someone far from him,but someone BEHIND him is safe.

His sand sensing dosent need a dessert,he just spreads sand everywhere and thats it

how would they know where the kages are in the first place,after activating the jutsu,they wont stay in the same position,so summons suicide diving in blind wont make much sense. Plsu sm naruto casually tossed them,tsunade and raikage are much stronger than sm naruto.

How would itachi roast him if he cant see him?:sy:
plus gaara can just do this


right under him.

If pain flies up wih itachi,they still wont see inside the mist,and gaara and onoki can fly too,IIRC animal path is the one that summons the bird,so animal path and itachi in the air vs gaara and onoki isnt going to be good for the akatsuki duo.

Mist isnt TBB,mei showed that she could blind her opponents while allowing her allies to see,she used it on madara and it didnt blind the kages.

Once mei activates the mist,it's really a downhill slope for akatski duo
 

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The 5 Kage don't have much of a way to beat Itachi, but he has alot of ways to beat them.
The Gokage would simply outlast him. The Raikage is a chakra beast, Tsunade has a lot of chakra too. Onoki has his jinton, Gaara has his sand. Mei can use the Kirigakure to blind Itachi. Then Tsunade and Onoki uses their super jinton to destroy Itachi.

Onoki + x Kage > Itachi. There is no need all of them.
 

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They can't outlast him, because he has a bunch of one shot techs (and is faster than them initially... A needs to power up to get faster, and even then his sharingan will give him the reactive speed to counter him). Based on how long dying Itachi had Susanoo, healthy one will be fine.
 

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The Gokage would simply outlast him. The Raikage is a chakra beast, Tsunade has a lot of chakra too. Onoki has his jinton, Gaara has his sand. Mei can use the Kirigakure to blind Itachi. Then Tsunade and Onoki uses their super jinton to destroy Itachi.

Onoki + x Kage > Itachi. There is no need all of them.
are you really trying to debate with a guy that says itachi handles all 5 kagexd?

Pretty much.

Itachi can't handle 2 kage.

Pain could, though.
depends on the 2 kages,healthy itachi can beat a certain combo of 2 kages,but loose to another. Same with pain.
 

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Well, if not easily, certainly decisively. They're from 20 feet away, so even with Koto taken away from Itachi, he's going to be able to use his superior start up speed to attack first... that'll ensure at least one Kage goes down. After that the Kage have no real way to hurt Itachi in a hurry, but he has a tonne of ways to hurt them. Since Itachi has full intel he'll probably take Onoki or Gaara down first, and either one takes almost half the strength of the Kage.
 
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