Itachi and Kisame vs Mu and Onoki

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Curious why does everyone think itachi Amatratsu is so fast I get sasukes but why itachi's I know it's suppose to spawn but clearly it doesn't. It travels which is why when Ay dodged it it continued to go backwards until it hit something (samurai )

From what I remember hebi sasuke was able to outrun itachi amatratsu

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I could b wrong but I remeber that fight and that is what the image shows for brief moment sasuke was outrunning it why because in order for Amatratsu to work u have to have target in sight if the target is constantly moving will it work. Wasn't it stated tht itachi is not even that good with Amatratsu (compared to sasuke) due to usually not using it cuz of chakra consumption (I mean look at Ms Sasuke lol)

Both onooki and Mu r in the air plus >>>> way faster then hebi sasuke

Also even if they couldn't avoid it Mu can split himself the go invisible to regenerate

and onooki can rap himself in his golem or stay behind on the golem back and do the weight thing on it so it can move really fast and be really heavy when needed be

All I'm saying is both onooki can Mu have counters to Amatratsu

 

[TRE MERCER]

This is really sad. Itachi one shots. People say his opponents can fly that makes Amaterasu useless false. Itachi can easily use Amaterasu on Oonoki either before he takes flight or why he's trying to get some distance while flying. They shown no feat's suggesting that they can fly even remotely fast. Sensing how would Muu know if it's Amaterasu or a Genjutsu? Also what could he do people on the base think that any sensor can dodge or evade Amaterasu just because they have some form of sensing. Let me ask you this could Tsunade dodge or evade Amaterasu if she was a sensor?

 

[Inert Brian]

Since intel isn't stated we have to go by Manga intel.

Jinton duo:
-Amaterasu, Susano'o and Tsukuyomi
-None on Kisame

Traitorous duo:
-Earth style ninjas, since it was never stated Itachi knew about Jinton we can't assume he does know.


Traitorous duo will likely begin with a fire ball/water shark attack, Jinton duo will block this with rock golem.

I'm assuming Muu goes invisible, and Oonoki begins to fly up.

Itachi has Kisame track Muu, and Amaterasu takes Oonoki out. If Muu tries to warn Oonoki he'll be exposed and Kisame can start launching attacks.

Now it's Itachi and Kisame vs Muu.

Honestly Muu is being severely overhyped. He has to come out of invisibility to use Jinton.

Itachi and Kisame can counter him if that happens.

 

[Beans2]

Since intel isn't stated we have to go by Manga intel.

Jinton duo:
-Amaterasu, Susano'o and Tsukuyomi
-None on Kisame

Traitorous duo:
-Earth style ninjas, since it was never stated Itachi knew about Jinton we can't assume he does know.


Traitorous duo will likely begin with a fire ball/water shark attack, Jinton duo will block this with rock golem.

I'm assuming Muu goes invisible, and Oonoki begins to fly up.

Itachi has Kisame track Muu, and Amaterasu takes Oonoki out. If Muu tries to warn Oonoki he'll be exposed and Kisame can start launching attacks.

Now it's Itachi and Kisame vs Muu.

Honestly Muu is being severely overhyped. He has to come out of invisibility to use Jinton.

Itachi and Kisame can counter him if that happens.

Amaterasu won't take out Onoki. He can go underground, or hide himself behind a Doton structure like his Golem and then make rock clones. Clones are immune to genjutsu, so Itachi would either have to waste his chakra on amaterasu'ing the clones or he would have to rely on Kisame to take them out. Plus, nothing is stopping Mu from just going invisible and stabbing them with his sword.

I would like to debate this with someone actually.

 

[eagle8]

itachi and kisame win high diff.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Amaterasu won't take out Onoki. He can go underground, or hide himself behind a Doton structure like his Golem and then make rock clones. Clones are immune to genjutsu, so Itachi would either have to waste his chakra on amaterasu'ing the clones or he would have to rely on Kisame to take them out. Plus, nothing is stopping Mu from just going invisible and stabbing them with his sword.

I would like to debate this with someone actually.

Yep he'll get to do all this before Amaterasu hits him gtfoh. Also with all these idiotic comments im feeling a Billy Madison insult coming.

 

[Beans2]

Yep he'll get to do all this before Amaterasu hits him gtfoh. Also with all these idiotic comments im feeling a Billy Madison insult coming.

All he has to do is use moving earth core to go underground, which is actually very fast. Now he's out of Itachi's field of vision. All he needs to do after that is create a good 20-25 rock clones, and then he can emerge from belowground. Itachi won't be able to tell the clones from the original, and he doesn't have enough chakra to use amaterasu on all of them - and a smart man like Itachi wouldn't gamble all his chakra on the off chance that he might hit the real one.

In case you're doubting that Moving Earth Core is fast enough, keep in mind that Itachi first has to activate his regular sharingan, then his mangekyou sharingan, and then build up chakra and cast amaterasu.

 

[Inert Brian]

Amaterasu won't take out Onoki. He can go underground, or hide himself behind a Doton structure like his Golem and then make rock clones. Clones are immune to genjutsu, so Itachi would either have to waste his chakra on amaterasu'ing the clones or he would have to rely on Kisame to take them out. Plus, nothing is stopping Mu from just going invisible and stabbing them with his sword.

I would like to debate this with someone actually.

Feats of Oonoki moving underground? Itachi doesn't need genjutsu to win this fight, already stated above how Muu and Oonoki won't look at his eyes. Itachi will also pick up on this as well.

 

[Beans2]

Feats of Oonoki moving underground? Itachi doesn't need genjutsu to win this fight, already stated above how Muu and Oonoki won't look at his eyes. Itachi will also pick up on this as well.

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is the same jutsu as this

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The technique used by that Iwa shinobi is the same technique Onoki has shown to be able to use. Before you say that Onoki can't use the belowground version, it's the same technique so obviously he can (just like lightened boulder and weighted boulder are essentially the same technique, just opposite in nature.)

Not to mention Onoki's golem went underground before, holding the Raikage with it:

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[Oblivionx]

ohnoki and muu should take it... they are the perfect counters for itachi... fly up and mega jinton.. but if yata can stop jinton then itachi and kisame do have a good chance...

 

[Unorthodox]

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is the same jutsu as this

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The technique used by that Iwa shinobi is the same technique Onoki has shown to be able to use. Before you say that Onoki can't use the belowground version, it's the same technique so obviously he can (just like lightened boulder and weighted boulder are essentially the same technique, just opposite in nature.)

Not to mention Onoki's golem went underground before, holding the Raikage with it:

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and witch both tech require handsighs amaterasu > handishg speed. Onoki staying out of amaterasu range is useless because that gives itach the edge to dodge everything and arsenal from that distance also the rock golem never went underground the ground was just turned into the golem's hand

like i said before

kisame solos itachi solos

 

[Beans2]

and witch both tech require handsighs amaterasu > handishg speed. Onoki staying out of amaterasu range is useless because that gives itach the edge to dodge everything and arsenal from that distance also the rock golem never went underground the ground was just turned into the golem's hand

like i said before

kisame solos itachi solos

You are drunk if you think Itachi or Kisame can solo this. Also the moving earth core does not require hand signs, all Onoki has to do is slap his hands against the ground. Also the golem DID go underground, watch the anime fight (it gives a clearer interpretation.) onoki could just stay out of range though, and send out rock clones or his golem to do his dirty work.