Itachi and EMS Madara vs Nagato and Minato(READ FIRST)

Who would win?

  • Itachi/EMS Madara(w/ Nine-tails)

    Votes: 18 45.0%
  • Minato/Nagato(Healthy)

    Votes: 22 55.0%

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Ryuu..

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You give team 1 the Kyuubi yet you restrict Gedo Mazo? Quite obvious which team you want to win. Anyway, Team 2 still win with high diff.
 
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Chibaku Tensei is all that's needed. After absorbing a large portion of the Nine tails chakra, the sphere will be indestructible and will hold Kurama, Madara and Itachi. Minato just needs to cover him while he absorbs the chakra with ST barrier and cover him while he creates CT.
Just no. The amount of chakra doesn't make the CT any more durable. It just makes him able to make it bigger, which doesn't matter against the long range attacks of the three. And minato was almost out of chakra after his S/T barrier sent away just 1 TBB.
 
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Naruto and Bee did nothing in that fight. Itachi solod nagato.
I was kind of amazed that you believe the bolded part. Also bee and naruto did nothing?
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Your saying that a tailed beast bomb from the second strongest of the nine beasts and a Nine-tailed chakra Rasensuriken did absolutely nothing to the sphere.

Come on. Itachi had help and Nagato is on a different level than the uhicha
 

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I was kind of amazed that you believe the bolded part. Also bee and naruto did nothing?
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Your saying that a tailed beast bomb from the second strongest of the nine beasts and a Nine-tailed chakra Rasensuriken did absolutely nothing to the sphere.

Come on. Itachi had help and Nagato is on a different level than the uhicha
And now he has the nine tails and madara. If you don't think they can kill nagato with ease then you're an idiot. And minato is not stronger than hashirama for a fact. While madara is nearly equal to him. So madara is better than minato by a longshot.
 

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And now he has the nine tails and madara. If you don't think they can kill nagato with ease then you're an idiot. And minato is not stronger than hashirama for a fact. While madara is nearly equal to him. So madara is better than minato by a longshot.
Can't use A > B > C logic in these kind of match ups. Even though Madara betters Minato, his and Hashirama's fighting styles are very different so you can't just say that. Minato would be very helpful for Nagato in this match up.
 

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Can't use A > B > C logic in these kind of match ups. Even though Madara betters Minato, his and Hashirama's fighting styles are very different so you can't just say that. Minato would be very helpful for Nagato in this match up.
If madara is better than minato then the fight is already over... That's what i'm saying. People give far too much hype to nagato and minato. Nagato's six paths were taken down by one person. He himself was taken down by one person with one assist. Minato can't do anything against a large defense besides force a tie by killing himself and the enemy. He can't do anything against susano'o, while nagato will be taken down by madara and itachi.
 
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And now he has the nine tails and madara. If you don't think they can kill nagato with ease then you're an idiot. And minato is not stronger than hashirama for a fact. While madara is nearly equal to him. So madara is better than minato by a longshot.
First of all Madara is not almost equal to Hashirama. He had nine tails and still lost. They are close but the difference is bigger than you think. Also The nine-tails can't do that much in the fight. Like the thread maker said, minato can just use teleportation technique warp the tail-beast bomb and use it against them. That is its strongest tech. Plus Madara and Itachi have no counter against CT. Minato can teleport the nine-tails away and nagato can use the CT. Itachi can't get out with his susanoo. Madara can maybe get out with his final susanoo ( which we have not seen, but give the benefit of the doubt), nagato then can take care of him with minato's help.
 

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If madara is better than minato then the fight is already over... That's what i'm saying. People give far too much hype to nagato and minato. Nagato's six paths were taken down by one person. He himself was taken down by one person with one assist. Minato can't do anything against a large defense besides force a tie by killing himself and the enemy. He can't do anything against susano'o, while nagato will be taken down by madara and itachi.
No.....just no. Did you say Itachi could solo Nagato?
 

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First of all Madara is not almost equal to Hashirama. He had nine tails and still lost. They are close but the difference is bigger than you think. Also The nine-tails can't do that much in the fight. Like the thread maker said, minato can just use teleportation technique warp the tail-beast bomb and use it against them. That is its strongest tech. Plus Madara and Itachi have no counter against CT. Minato can teleport the nine-tails away and nagato can use the CT. Itachi can't get out with his susanoo. Madara can maybe get out with his final susanoo ( which we have not seen, but give the benefit of the doubt), nagato then can take care of him with minato's help.
I already pointed out that the S/T barrier can't teleport anything anywhere. As far as we know, it works under the same principles as FTG, meaning he needs to have seals already prepared behind madara and itachi. Unless that's a mistake by the OP then that's just a bonus technique given to a team which is an unfair bonus, which is the same as giving madara's susano'o the yata mirror for example. And itachi and madara both have the magatama technique which has already been used to assist in the destruction of CT before. Lastly there's no reason that madara cannot simply re summon the nine tails back to their location, as there is no reasonable way for minato to place a contract seal on madara through his susano'o.
 

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Because Madara is controlling Kyuubi he could most likely not spam his ems to his liking cause he need to be maintain control of kyuubi
As seen with tobi when fighting Minato he was just using chains and no other techniques because he couldnt afford to put strain on his eyes (if kurama would break free i wonder who he would attack first "the 2 people with blessed eyes that use him as a slave or the others :rolleyes:
Not to mention Minato just need to touch Madara to break his control of kyuubi who then will out of rage turn against Madara
Team 2 wins with high difficulty
 

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Right. That's why nagato beat itachi last time they fought... :sy: And then you're saying that they could beat Madara? The second most powerful ninja in history? Right.

You're saying minato and nagato are almost 2 times better than the current 5 kage, as madara's toying with them.

And before you say Naruto and Bee helped itachi beat nagato, all they did was destroy the Chibaku Tensei. A feat itachi could have done himself with ease. He even had time to give naruto a little lesson on battle. Clearly Nagato was not a challenge to itachi whatsoever.
Man you're a fan boy. :sy:

Madara (with ems only), btw, isn't the second strongest ninja in Naruto.

It goes:

1. So6p
2. Tobi
3. Naruto
4. Hashirama
5. Madara

At least.
 

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You're saying Itachi beats Nagato? wtf:sy: If you think like that, you're clearly a fanboy. And why are you talking about current Madara? The Madara we're talking about didn't had Rinnengan, he didn't had Mokuton technics. If Madara EMS was to fight against 5kages, he would have been killed easily. Just see how fast a clone of Naruto was able to deal with him. Minato can even solo him, but Kyubi is the problem here, but with a contract seal, he can remove his control from Kyubi and deal with him. If he can't, Nagato will help him to. Madara EMS is overrated. He is not that strong. I think that healthy Itachi(without chakra problems) is even stronger than him.[/QUOTE]

I like Itachi much more, but just no.
 

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well minato would beat itachi however he would be nearly dead after the fight and madara plus the kyuubi would beat nagato without to much trouble and then finish minato off. so i reckon team madara would win this with only madara left
Minato cannot beat Itachi...
 

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And now he has the nine tails and madara. If you don't think they can kill nagato with ease then you're an idiot. And minato is not stronger than hashirama for a fact. While madara is nearly equal to him. So madara is better than minato by a longshot.
He was just replying to your bs statement about Nagato being weaker than Itachi.

Madara ems<<<<<Nagato
Madara ems with Kurama>Nagato

Minato>> Itachi

No it will be Minato and Nagato vs Kurama and Madara

It'll balance out.
 

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I think team Sharingan takes this. Nagato cannot absorb black flames, Minato cannot fight against Madara controlling the 9 tails... Its just too overpowering, Without the 9 tails team sharingan still wins, just high diff.
 

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If madara is better than minato then the fight is already over... That's what i'm saying. People give far too much hype to nagato and minato. Nagato's six paths were taken down by one person. He himself was taken down by one person with one assist. Minato can't do anything against a large defense besides force a tie by killing himself and the enemy. He can't do anything against susano'o, while nagato will be taken down by madara and itachi.
First of all, the six paths of pain were weaker than Nagato. And it was taking down by a Kid with sage mode and had to use eight tails to defeat him. And, not to mention, Pein was only trying to capture him.
 

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Itachi has the ability to cast a genjutsu on the enemy using only a finger, where they have no clue that they are in a genjutsu. So running away is useless. And the rules of Minato's s/t barrier are the same as FTG in which he still needs to send it to a seal. (as far as we know.) Itachi clearly knows how to nullify Chibaku Tensei as shown in the manga. And Madara is still the second most powerful in the manga without rinnegan and Mokuton. I give this to Madara and Itachi.
dude minato was hokage at the time the uchiha were all still alive for him to be hokage im sure he knew all the uchihas techniques he wouldve known not to just stare into itachis eyes an you cant compare minatos space time jutsu to no ones it was the fastest not to mention minato was very skilled with seals you dont know what he was capable an he proved to be the only one on this show to physical stop tobi the fact that he managed to stop tobi an the kyuubi from destroying the village proves enough then you nagato who can do many things but most of important of all he can revive the dead so mine as well hang that neither would last long against minato an nagato
 
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