It was hashirama Who made the cracks people

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Hello many people think it was tobirama who made the cracks in the walls and in the ground but its hashirama mangapanda as always doesn't translate well as we know *********** does a better job and their translation acually shows that hashirama was the one to take his chakra levels to insanity enough to scare hurzen lol

This is the part where he raises his finger
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Now the second panel hashirama gets angry and the cracks start happening from him Look down his legs

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Tobirama relaxing

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Now the missconseption here the third confirms it was hashirama when he says "hashirama sama don't scare me like that"

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I have also heard a lot of people saying tobirama will own sasuke but imo sasuke is already above tobirama after all last time i checked tobirama was afriad of madara who in that time was a EMS User and i m not trying to say sasuke since he has EMS will beat tobirama but sasuke has an advanted based on what we know of course because Lighting>water blaze amaterasu blaze realease and susanoo i think are to much for tobirama to handle ^_^ as for the finger part i think you all remember that tobirama can perform water techiniques with one finger that s why everyone was scard as for the chakra part they are naturaly high since he is senju XD
p.s not trying to hate on tobirama or sasuke this is just my opinion
 

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Nice thread. Added rep.

Also I think a good point to mention would be that the shockwaves are coming from Hashi in his closeup.
 

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Nice thread. Added rep.

Also I think a good point to mention would be that the shockwaves are coming from Hashi in his closeup.

thank you ^_^ people still think its tobirama O_O so did i but *********** proved me wrong
 

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Yeah, Tobirama only raised his Chakras, but Hashirama was the one who messed up the place. . . . . . . . . . however, Tobirama >>> Sasuke. :noc:
 

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The lightning > Water case only matters if tobirama is dousing himself with water which is not the case he can use it as a projectile if sasuke decides to cover it with lightning it doesn't stop it in mid air it just becomes conducted and whoever it hits after that will have to worry about snapping there neck from the high pressure and being electrocuted.


By your logic anyone whose nature affinity beats out another's is the automatic winner.

Itachi would frown on you /:

I would like to see the two fight if only temporarily to see how it would play out
 
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Hashirama is making crack ?

yes he sells them cheap too :p

Yeah, Tobirama only raised his Chakras, but Hashirama was the one who messed up the place. . . . . . . . . . however, Tobirama >>> Sasuke. :noc:

Thank you i don't see how tobirama can beat sasuke the currect sasuke is a madara ver without perfect susanoo last time i checked tobirama was afriad of madara anyway i still respect your opinion ^_^
 

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Hashirama did make the cracks.

But Tobirama was the ine raising the index finger.
You can see on the top left corner tha fur from his armor.
Meaning he was about to make a jutsu.
 

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dafuq o_O

The lightning > Water case only matters if tobirama is dousing himself with water which is not the case he can use it as a projectile if sasuke decides to cover it with lightning it doesn't stop it in mid air it just becomes conducted and whoever it hits after that will have to worry about snapping there neck from the high pressure and begin electrocuted.


By your logic anyone whose nature affinity beats out another's is the automatic winner.

Itachi would frown on you /:

not at all my friend a genin with elemental advantage cant beat a jounin with disadvantage but many of you people in the base think sasuke is weak which is not true at all he is strong very strong actually he is an ems madara ver without perfect susanoo and tobirama was afriad of madara even though he didn't knew about perfect susanoo (since madara said hashirama is the only one to see it and live_) anyway you srsl are looking at tobirama s abillitys alone sasuke has tamed lighting and he has a super natured attack which is Stronger than any human chakra attack (stated by zetsu) this plus elemntal advantage gives him the upper plus he has a lot of other techiniques anyway let s not start a war this is my op that is your op and i respact it ^_^
 

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Hashirama did make the cracks.

But Tobirama was the ine raising the index finger.
You can see on the top left corner tha fur from his armor.
Meaning he was about to make a jutsu.

It seems you didn't read all In the end i mentioned that tobirama was about to make a jutsu we know this since part one he can make water tech with one finger without hand seals
 

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We know. It's stated by Hiruzen.

Tobirama still managed to frighten Suigetsu and put Orochimaru and Sasuke at unease just by raising his chakra.
 

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Thank you i don't see how tobirama can beat sasuke the currect sasuke is a madara ver without perfect susanoo last time i checked tobirama was afriad of madara anyway i still respect your opinion ^_^

Hmm. . . . . . . . . I'm not so sure about that afraid thing sense, cuz Tobirama was trying to break the technique and got to him on the battlefield. . . . . . . . . :shrug:
 

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We know. It's stated by Hiruzen.

Tobirama still managed to frighten Suigetsu and put Orochimaru and Sasuke at unease just by raising his chakra.

I m aware of that but its still the same chakra its senju s simbol just like uchihas frighted other people when they show their sharingan

Hmm. . . . . . . . . I'm not so sure about that afraid thing sense, cuz Tobirama was trying to break the technique and got to him on the battlefield. . . . . . . . . :shrug:

he is an edo he knows he can't die so there is nothing to fear plus tobirama is still senju he will fight madara if he has too because he is a noble person who behind all that coolness still loves his village and people
 

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dafuq o_O



not at all my friend a genin with elemental advantage cant beat a jounin with disadvantage but many of you people in the base think sasuke is weak which is not true at all he is strong very strong actually he is an ems madara ver without perfect susanoo and tobirama was afriad of madara even though he didn't knew about perfect susanoo (since madara said hashirama is the only one to see it and live_) anyway you srsl are looking at tobirama s abillitys alone sasuke has tamed lighting and he has a super natured attack which is Stronger than any human chakra attack (stated by zetsu) this plus elemntal advantage gives him the upper plus he has a lot of other techiniques anyway let s not start a war this is my op that is your op and i respact it ^_^


Once again your merely basing an entire fight on the pure basics of the elemental chain.

How can you claim to say your basing your opinion on what we seen so far then say

"not at all my friend a genin with elemental advantage cant beat a jounin with disadvantage but many of you people in the base think sasuke is weak which is not true at all"

1.Already by the opening statement you contradict yourself by talking about an irrelevant scenario that did not happen
2.I never said sasuke was weak nor did i imply that he was weak
3.Stop deflecting and talking about other people and what they think of sasuke because your suppose to be responding to my post and i made no such claim.


" plus he has a lot of other techiniques anyway"

Tobirama also has other justu he was mentioned to be a space time ninjustu user.


We have not seen tobirama in action so saying sasuke is stronger because he has suusanno is ridiculous and unfounded.

And i am not starting a war.Don't try to shut me down or hamper a response from me as an excuse to go on about how much stronger sasuke is.If anything by being a blind sasuke fan you will be the one to start a flame war not me
 
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This thread was needed Plus rep. Too many fools are spreading false information.

Depending on feats, I would love people to actually prove to me how Tobirama beats Sasuke. This 'he was hokage logic' is weak, as Nagato was not a hokage, yet he can easily beat most - excluding EMS Madara and Hashriama - characters with ease. EMS Madara was not a hokage, Itachi and Obito are not hokages as well.

Second is that unease factor. Tobirama didn't scare Sasuke, he only took a battle stance to fend him off; a natural reaction of a fighter. It means nothing. Third is Sasuke's vast abilities advantage concerning Amaterasu and Lightening variant, along with Complete Sussano. His CS has three hands, which makes it possible for him to manipulate enton arrows and magatamas the same time, together with using the bow or the arrow as a shield. That alone is too much advantage over Tobirama.
 

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Once again your merely basing an entire fight on the pure basics of the elemental chain.

How can you claim to say your basing your opinion on what we seen so far then say

"not at all my friend a genin with elemental advantage cant beat a jounin with disadvantage but many of you people in the base think sasuke is weak which is not true at all"

1.Already by the opening statement you contradict yourself by talking about an irrelevant scenario that did not happen
2.I never said sasuke was weak nor did i hint that he was weak
3.Stop deflecting and talking about other people and what they think of sasuke because your suppose to be responding to my post
and i made no such claim.


" plus he has a lot of other techiniques anyway"

Tobirama also has other justu he was mentioned to be a space time ninjustu user.


We have not seen tobirama in action so saying sasuke is stronger because he has suusanno is ridiculous and unfounded.

And i am not starting a war.Don't try to shut me down or hamper a response from me as an excuse to flap on about how much stronger sasuke is.If anything by being a blind sasuke fan you will be the one to start a flame war not me

First of all Look at my sig and my ava i am a fan of itachi that s true but that doesn't mean i can't accept itachi s defeat or sasuke Which in anyway i never liked this guy not even part one as for the main point i know tobirama has s/t tech we still don't know his limits i just posted my opinion based on what i know and what the manga gave me as for sasuke being stronger madara was feard because of his MS in his team and because he awoke susanoo and as for know we know that only hashirama could rival madara uchiha this manga fact is more than enough to prove me at the moment that sasuke is stronger Agian who knows maybe tobirama is stronger this is just my opinion whenever you like it or not
 

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Good to see things cleared up, I also agree Sasuke would most likely prevail in a battle against Tobirama.
 

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But if your going to continue with your claims of sasuke being stronger then him just because his nature affinity then there can be no actual legit debate or discussion between us.See ya
 
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This thread was needed Plus rep. Too many fools are spreading false information.

Depending on feats, I would love people to actually prove to me how Tobirama beats Sasuke. This 'he was hokage logic' is weak, as Nagato was not a hokage, yet he can easily beat most - excluding EMS Madara and Hashriama - characters with ease. EMS Madara was not a hokage, Itachi and Obito are not hokages as well.

Second is that unease factor. Tobirama didn't scare Sasuke, he only took a battle stance to fend him off; a natural reaction of a fighter. It means nothing. Third is Sasuke's vast abilities advantage concerning Amaterasu and Lightening variant, along with Complete Sussano. His CS has three hands, which makes it possible for him to manipulate enton arrows and magatamas the same time, together with using the bow or the arrow as a shield. That alone is too much advantage over Tobirama.

Thank you ^_^
we don't know tobirama s abillity-s but we know he feared madara sasuke on top op having lighting as an advatage also has displayed more tech than madara which should give him a better opportionity to win
 
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