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Itachi Uchiha Solo King

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well said... I agree. Also Sasuke took a jutsu that even Itachi was a little b*tch about using(Amaterasu) and turned it into his second greatest move(First being Chidori)

thats sasukes second move on his sharingan to manipulate amaterasu, itachis second move is tsuknomi dumbass
 

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Actually not all Itachi fans are like that.
I do agree that Sasuke surpassed Itachi as soon as he got EMS & was on the battlefield. I thought that was pretty obvious.

And imo, Itachi is still top ten when we don't include the Sage and his family. But I would never put him at 7 or above.

1. Madara Uchiha
2. Naruto Uzumaki / Sasuke Uchiha
3. Sasuke Uchiha / Naruto Uzumaki
4. Obito Uchiha
5. Hashirama
6. Nagato
7. Kabuto Yakushi
8. Itachi Uchiha (Healthy)
9. Minato Namikaze (Alive, no KCM/BM)
10. Tobirama Senju

And I know that Healthy Itachi is considered fanfic, but he wasn't sick all his life and Zetsu did make quite a few comments during his fight with Sasuke showing that he was surprised that Itachi's reaction time was the way it was. Also, that's the equivalent of saying that there is no healthy sage of the six paths when there is one. I just evaluate characters at their best point. So I just consider it to be canon only due to that. Otherwise, Minato would be above Itachi. But I wouldn't put Tobirama above the Itachi we saw, because even though he's done some impressive things during the war arc, he lacks feats to me. U_U


good list but itachi is above nagato and kabuto he already used izanagi to beat kabuto and for nagato he would just out smart him again and seal him
 

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... you don't know that.

He gained the MS and totally blew it whe using Tsukuyomi on Danzo. Because he didn't have a) the skill b) the experience and time to develop a decent level of mastery over it.

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What does Sasuke know about the Rinnegan? Nothing.

a.) that Sasuke wasnt thinking clearly. he was fightning out of anger. PLus he was MS, not Rinnigan. explain how Madara knew how to use Rinnigan techniques when his first time of actual usage against someone was in the war

Im not doubting Itachi was smart, but Sasuke isnt an idiot. Yea, he used to rush in, but that was during the kage fight when he was fueled by anger.

What resources and counter does Itachi have against current Sasuke?
Shikamaru is smarter than Naruto...does that mean he solos him?
 
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Well, this has been official ever since Sasuke had EMS, but now for sure, Sasuke has surpassed Itachi BY FAR.
I know most, if not ALL Itachi fans will naturally, and automatically disagree. But honestly here...

Yea, in part 1, was definitely top 5. But as shipuuden came, and the war started, seems Itachi dosent even make top 10, if he does its usually his fans putting him at 7 or higher.

I like him, he was wise, combat experience was superb. But I think he reached his maximum potential when he fought Sasuke. I mean, at 13 he was already leagues above his peers, but I think after the uchiha incident, and achieving Susanoo, thats where his growth ends. He could have possibly become more skilled at sharingan usage, but other than that no.

Sasuke however is pretty smart himself. When he had MS, he was still below itachi. But it seems he has gotten wiser over the course of the war as well. And seemingly isnt that emo brat that he used to be. On top of that, he has EMS which is greater than MS..and now, the moment all Sasuke fans have awaited, he has awaken the full power of Rinnigan. Yes, full power, his eye has the sharingan and Rinnigan pattern. Most people will say, "its only in one eye." Okay..well its only suppose to be in one eye. Kaguya had it in one eye, and so did the Juubi (who is kaguya)
He can perform all the rinnigan AND all of his sharingan techs.

Nothing in Itachi arsenal now can effect Sasuke. And Sasuke seemingly has calmed down ALOT, so he dosent rush in battle, instead, he seems to be observing before making his decions.

I say now, recent Sasuke solo itachi low diff. He has finally surpassed his brother.
Heck Sasuke has surpassed Nagato as well.

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Bolded for bullshit. Sasuke currently has a lot more raw power than Itachi, yes. And that is coming from a hardcore Itachi fan.But you obviously don't get why Itachi's so strong.He can beat anyone , he just can.If you rush and are reckless against Itachi, you will lose. +Full Itachi arsenal can beat anyone 1v1 easily. Think about it like this. His full arsenal contains: KA, which is a one shot, Totsuka blade, which if you are struck by it is a oneshot ( he would manage to take Sasuke down with Totsuka , I am sure of it, he's still leagues above Sasuke in intelligence) and Tsukuyomi is a one shot against anyone who's not Sasuke, tho in this battle it doesn't matter since it's Sasuke.Itachi is good at finishing battles instantly (Tsukuyomi ,again a one shot) and if the battle prolongs he has Izanami (which would work against Sasuke). He can hold his own against anyone for at least 5-10 minutes(yata-mirror). Basically, he's the most skilled ninja, just not the most powerful. He can still take anyone on and have at least 20-30% chances of winning.
 

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Bolded for bullshit. Sasuke currently has a lot more raw power than Itachi, yes. And that is coming from a hardcore Itachi fan.But you obviously don't get why Itachi's so strong.He can beat anyone , he just can.If you rush and are reckless against Itachi, you will lose. +Full Itachi arsenal can beat anyone 1v1 easily. Think about it like this. His full arsenal contains: KA, which is a one shot, Totsuka blade, which if you are struck by it is a oneshot ( he would manage to take Sasuke down with Totsuka , I am sure of it, he's still leagues above Sasuke in intelligence) and Tsukuyomi is a one shot against anyone who's not Sasuke, tho in this battle it doesn't matter since it's Sasuke.Itachi is good at finishing battles instantly (Tsukuyomi ,again a one shot) and if the battle prolongs he has Izanami (which would work against Sasuke). He can hold his own against anyone for at least 5-10 minutes(yata-mirror). Basically, he's the most skilled ninja, just not the most powerful. He can still take anyone on and have at least 20-30% chances of winning.

not gonna debate with a itachi fapboy
 

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Rinnegan Sasuke >>> EMS Sasuke >>> MS Sasuke = Itachi > Hebi Sasuke.

MS Sasuke vs Itachi is debatable, hence why I put ''=''. Other than that, only a biased hater would say otherwise.

Intelligence doesn't mean shit here when it's not going to give Itachi an ability that counters Sasuke's arsenal.
 

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An EMS user will always be above a MS user, that's just logical, no talent could match the power you get with the EMS. And of course, the current Sasuke is even above that. No need for such threads, they suck.
 

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Ummm...he surpassed itachi a long ass time ago sooo....itachi is a non factor anymore,its all about surpassing madara and indra now,
 

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Using your logic also, itachi got Ms becos of shisui. How they got powers is irrelevant, its jus burthurt fans who use that sillyy argument when their fav character is weaker than another. Lol most likely stronger??? Ems sasuke puts itachi to the ground at mid dif max, he doesn't need his new power at all. Itachi is to overwanked its disgusting.

Healthy MS Itachi > EMS Sasuke. It makes me laugh when people think Sasuke was stronger with just EMS. Why do you think Sasuke needed to get such a huge power up? Kishi finally needed to break the barrier (power wise) between the two. Sasuke would of died multiple times if it weren't for Itachi in their battle against Kabuto. Itachi had to save his ass multiple times and leave himself open because of it. Sasuke would of been obliterated if Itachi hadn't been there. The funny thing is, Itachi fought Kabuto having empathy and compassion for him and not even trying to kill him. And he still won, with Sasuke doing nothing.

Of course, current Rinnegan+EMS+50% Hagoromo = Sasuke > Itachi power wise. Itachi > Sasuke in any and all other aspects, even with his power up. MS Itachi crushes EMS Sasuke. I'll prove it if you want.
 

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An EMS user will always be above a MS user, that's just logical, no talent could match the power you get with the EMS. And of course, the current Sasuke is even above that. No need for such threads, they suck.

With EMS, your eyes don't lose their light from overusing it.

What else do you get exactly?
 

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With EMS, your eyes don't lose their light from overusing it.

What else do you get exactly?

You can spam your MS techniques without Chakra tax and achieve the perfect Susanoo, which a MS user could never bear with the disadvantages of the eyes.
 

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You can spam your MS techniques without Chakra tax and achieve the perfect Susanoo, which a MS user could never bear with the disadvantages of the eyes.

I thought that you still expend chakra even if you have the EMS.
 
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