Isn't Naruto's power technically his own?

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Sage Mode and Rasenshuriken are obviously powers he learned on his own, but isn't KCM Naruto technically power he uses on his own? It may not be his chakra entirely but he is the one utilizing it in his own way right? So I don't understand why people say Naruto using Kurama's chakra is "borrowed power," since Naruto went through training to be able to control Kurama's chakra.
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I'd say BSM Naruto is the same thing too since he mixes the power of HIS Sage Mode to empower his Bijuu Mode. I just don't see how Naruto utilizing Kurama's chakra makes him weak on his own???
 
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Sage Mode and Rasenshuriken are obviously powers he learned on his own, but isn't KCM Naruto technically power he uses on his own? It may not be his chakra entirely but he is the one utilizing it in his own way right? So I don't understand why people say Naruto using Kurama's chakra is "borrowed power," since Naruto went through training to be able to control Kurama's chakra.

I'd say BSM Naruto is the same thing too since he mixes the power of HIS Sage Mode to empower his Bijuu Mode. I just don't see how Naruto utilizing Kurama's chakra makes him weak on his own???

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Does it come from the Kyuubi? If the answer to that question is "yes" then the answer to your question is usually "no."
 

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If you want to get technical no but in general yes. Somehow this will turn into a Naruto vs Sasuke thread though. From what I see it will probably be one of those naruto faps.
 

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He trained and earned that power. So BSM and under is technically his own power. He handles it not Kurama. Now if he was able to freely utilize it since when he first received it, then the answer would be no.
 

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It is his own power. The chakra modes (except bm +bsm) are his own as he took that chakra for himself.
 

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Narutos power is his own, kuramas power isn't. I'll even give nardo kcm as he's using the kyuubis chakra against his will and he fought for it, anything after is kurama cooperation(which is kind of how the character naruto works, power through co op) so technically it wouldn't be on his own power
 

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He trained and earned that power. So BSM and under is technically his own power. He handles it not Kurama. Now if he was able to freely utilize it since when he first received it, then the answer would be no.

That's not even remotely how it works.
 

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Sage Mode and Rasenshuriken are obviously powers he learned on his own, but isn't KCM Naruto technically power he uses on his own? It may not be his chakra entirely but he is the one utilizing it in his own way right? So I don't understand why people say Naruto using Kurama's chakra is "borrowed power," since Naruto went through training to be able to control Kurama's chakra.
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I'd say BSM Naruto is the same thing too since he mixes the power of HIS Sage Mode to empower his Bijuu Mode. I just don't see how Naruto utilizing Kurama's chakra makes him weak on his own???
Yes, it's his power. Even in bijuu mode when Naruto utilize Kurama avatar, it's Naruto the one fighting and using the techniques wich requires tremendous skill btw. Kurama alone cannot perform such techniques, it's all Naruto. :sigar:

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Just how sasuke his itachi's eyes/chakra, sasuke is the one utilizing that power to the fullest extent. Kurama is basically just the battery, Naruto is the machine. Thats why sasuke was impressed/jealous Naruto could use that much chakra flawlessly. :sigar:

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Yes, it's his power. Even in bijuu mode when Naruto utilize Kurama avatar, it's Naruto the one fighting and using the techniques wich requires tremendous skill btw. Kurama alone cannot perform such techniques, it's all Naruto. :sigar:

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Just how sasuke his itachi's eyes/chakra, sasuke is the one utilizing that power to the fullest extent. Kurama is basically just the battery, Naruto is the machine. Thats why sasuke was impressed/jealous Naruto could use that much chakra flawlessly. :sigar:

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That's no different than handing a child a loaded gun and calling him the greatest MMA fighter of all time.

Yeah, he's pulling the trigger, but he was also handed the most broken advantage of all time. That's fine within the contexts of the manga, but when comparing the skills of two characters, Naruto will always have a handicap which severely diminishes his accomplishments.
 

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Why do people give so much of a crap if character uses power that's theirs or not. To me that seems like people are insecure about their fav's strength and need to downplay other characters. (I'm not targeting Sasuke fans here, the same goes to Naruto fans who say shit about EMS, Curse Mark and Hagoromo). Naruto get his power through co op and working hard. He has went through many struggles to earn the power he has. He had to beat up Kurama to get KCM and a life time of experience payed off with BM.
 

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R u retarded? Or trolling...?

If kyuubi is mentioned at all then no.

His own power ain't shit just like ashura..

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Why do people give so much of a crap if character uses power that's theirs or not. To me that seems like people are insecure about their fav's strength and need to downplay other characters. (I'm not targeting Sasuke fans here, the same goes to Naruto fans who say shit about EMS, Curse Mark and Hagoromo). Naruto get his power through co op and working hard. He has went through many struggles to earn the power he has. He had to beat up Kurama to get KCM and a life time of experience payed off with BM.

which never would had happened without help from B and kushina.
 

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That's no different than handing a child a loaded gun and calling him the greatest MMA fighter of all time.

Yeah, he's pulling the trigger, but he was also handed the most broken advantage of all time. That's fine within the contexts of the manga, but when comparing the skills of two characters, Naruto will always have a handicap which severely diminishes his accomplishments.
You speak as if Naruto gained his skill only after utilizing kurama's chakra, that simply isn't the case. If you give a child a loaded gun that won't make him a gunslinger. Naruto possess the skills and knowledge to use kurama's chakra the way he does. You think kurama alone can perform Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken? Get real. :sigar:
 

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Does it come from the Kyuubi? If the answer to that question is "yes" then the answer to your question is usually "no."
Uh... Naruto got kcm by forcing Kurama to give him his chakra, wouldn't really call that borrowing his power.
 

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You speak as if Naruto gained his skill only after utilizing kurama's chakra, that simply isn't the case. If you give a child a loaded gun that won't make him a gunslinger. Naruto possess the skills and knowledge to use kurama's chakra the way he does. You think kurama alone can perform Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken? Get real. :sigar:

Sure, he has some skill and ability. I would even say he has a lot of skill and ability. But the fact remains that the Kyuubi gives him things he cannot have and will never have without it. You can't possibly believe Naruto wouldn't be any less powerful without his Bijuu friends.

That's the definition of a handicap.

Uh... Naruto got kcm by forcing Kurama to give him his chakra, wouldn't really call that borrowing his power.

With the help of his mom and new Jinchuriki friend, sure. I almost consider KCM his own power too, but BM and BSM, all the intel the Kyuubi gives him, the healing factor, the natural speed without training, the new elements, that's all borrowed power.
 

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which never would had happened without help from B and kushina.

I'm not denying Naruto had help, it's idiotic to deny that. That's what his character represents. Co operation with others is what makes him strong. That doesn't make him pathetic or weak. Just another way a character gets strength.
 

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Nope even SM is borrowed, that borrowed nature energy tho. srsly It doesn't really matter cos that's still part of his abilities, if that makes sense.
 
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