isn't madara already on the sage of six path base level

[maiavarepz]

he cannot create things like the So6p did

 

[The Brown Hokage]

i agree probaly even pass the sage level without the tentails sealded inside him. memba he is an edo he cnt die his dead already. physical attacks will only slow him down he will regenerate and has unlimited charkra.

The sage did not have these perks he was an normal shonbi with emmense power and wisdom so propably knew stronger and better seals but madra could copy after seeing it once.

 

[AlexXx]

SO6P >>> madara + hashi.

thats right

 

[AlexXx]

its not about power.
he has infinite chakre due the edo tensei= not his own power
senju dna is not his own power. and without the the infinite chakra
he couldnt handle the senju power or would long ago run out of energy.

its like he is just a machine with many strong weapons

its all about heart, kid, its all about heart.

and thats why naruto is the only one who is on sages power. (what already the bijuus stated, and they know the sage personaly)

 

[Maunten]

He is not and never will be.

The sages wisdom is not comparable, and his chakra control is without equal, as long as madara has to use hand signs even one, he is so far below the Sage I gigidi.

 

[Uchiha Leader]

wtf naruto gonna die r u joking

well if madara fought naruto, naruto would be outmacthed because madara can absorb and use meteors and use sussanno in it so naruto can't win agianst something like that he has to escape.

Nope not even close.

Madara will never ever ever be on his level, neither will anyone else in the manga. Madara is arguably the strongest atm but hes a grain of sugar in a extra large bag of sugar next to so6p.

i understand hes probably your fave and whatever but please dont be so silly. Naruto wont die till the end of the manga if he dies. (meaning madara will have been stomped out long before that)

i am saying naruto cannot beat him if they did meet naruto will die unless he is saved or escapes.

madara has all the requirements except the tools and the ten tails.The uchiha's and senju are like the grains but when they train to achieve more they become more like there elder son and younger son counter part like what hashirama and madara did with hashirama regeneration and yang with madara rinnegan and yin(genjutsu or stuff out of nothingness).

meh more or less

Kabuto said that with the power he created (Edo Madara) he could now touch a "fragment" of the sage's power. That by itself is massive hype. Though Kabuto probably never saw what the Sage could really do, perhaps he isn't a reliable source. Considering that not every Uchiha or Senju are necessarily equal in power, perhaps the Sage's Uchiha and Senju along with his Rinnegan are on an entirely different level. COAT is a specific Yin-Yang Release that creates things from nothingness. Just because he has some of the things the Sage had, it doesn't mean he's as good at using those things at the level of the Sage. Perhaps he does have Yin-Yang Release but it doesn't automatically mean that he knows how to use it. He did show great skill with Yin Release and Yang Release through his clones but what if that skill still wasn't good enough? And he needs to learn how to use Yin-Yang Release altogether.To use COAT, he has to know how to create a form from nothingness and another feat to breathe life into that form. Yin-Yang.

We only know he managed to subdue the Juubi and used COAT to distribute its chakra into the 9 tailed beasts. After that, he created the moon with the Juubi inside it. Whether he used the chakra of the Juubi is still unknown.

With COAT he could probably create copies of Madara to further aid him in battle. Perhaps clones of himself or the Juubi. Though he might have to distribute chakra into those forms so perhaps they would be weaker or maybe they become their own beings with whatever amount of chakra the Sage wants to make them with. To me, COAT is his main hype. Aside from the probability of him creating more techniques to fit the situation.

i just think madara is close to base sage by having all of his abilities the only thing is he does not have the tools and ten tails.

I still say the closest person to reach the sage's power is Nagato. He was renowned as being a god by many different shinobi. He possesses the rinnegan, and is extremely skilled with this doujutsu, being able to destroy all of Konoha, as well as taking over the hidden rain village single handed. He is a descendent of the Senju, who are in turn descendents of the sage's youngest son. In a sense he has all the necessary requirements to be the sage of six paths incarnate.

I'll admit Madara is powerful, but not on Nagato's level, not yet anyways.

nagato needs the other blloodline too which he doesn't have he could have been but he didn't get the other bloodline

close to the sage's level without the juubi imo. although the unlimited chakra and undying body think is a huge boost, he hasn't shown real mastery of either the rinnegan or mokuton, he just knows the techs

well the rinnegan masters every basic nature type so he can but he said he is not serious with the kages.

As kabuto stated, Madara can olny toutch a fragment of so6p power.

yea because madara does not have the ten tails, the ten tails made the sage gain inhuman abilities

I think SO6P will only be caught by naruto. My question is, how will he do it? And I think its too soon to draw conclusions- as there are many things yet to be revealed.I think we can start guessing who tobi is and the truth about oro in month's time via manga. lol it may take 6 manga's until oro tells him what he want to know.

naruto needs some more added to him if he wants to be a complete sage of six paths but tobi identity is questionable still and we don't know who he can be unless it is revealed or some strong flash back of tobi.

Talking about NORMAL madara which is no where CLOSE to sage i know you are talking about "haxed,BOOSTED" madara which is why people are hyping him so much xd not even senju and uchiha dna mixed are not close enuff to get sages level, he's sons were uchiha/senju clan ancestors which means each generation grows up weaker and gets more distance to original which is SO6P. MY answer ---> No potential, No powerful enuff, not HAXED by countless PLOTS enough xd.

edo madara is like the base sage he has the requirements but without the tools and the ten tails

he cannot create things like the So6p did

if he has the rinnegan he can you need the yin and yang elements that madara has mastery and the bloodline of both the younger son and elder son to use the creation of all things.

i agree probaly even pass the sage level without the tentails sealded inside him. memba he is an edo he cnt die his dead already. physical attacks will only slow him down he will regenerate and has unlimited charkra.

The sage did not have these perks he was an normal shonbi with emmense power and wisdom so propably knew stronger and better seals but madra could copy after seeing it once.

i think madara is close to the sage of six paths base power.

 

[Kakashii]

he might even be stronger than him since he is immortal and has infinite chakra

 

[uchihax]

LOL, madara is not even in 10% of the SO6P power, JUUBI was nothing for SO6P

GEEZ , please guys , stop making Madara a beast , just because he's back

 

[Uchiha Leader]

LOL, madara is not even in 10% of the SO6P power, JUUBI was nothing for SO6P

GEEZ , please guys , stop making Madara a beast , just because he's back

madara would be a challenge for the ten tails too, madara cannot die and madara easily controlled the nine tails and the nine tails fears him.

madara can most likely control the ten tails with his dojutsu or just restrict him with the wood release.

he even has the rinnegan so madara can just absorb chakra from the ten tails and use his deva path powers and the asure path for defensive and offensive too.

 

[shohruh6]

I agree that he is the closest person to so6p's level. But not quite on his level...

Yes. I was going to tell that. I agree with u

 

[shohruh6]

madara would be a challenge for the ten tails too, madara cannot die and madara easily controlled the nine tails and the nine tails fears him.

madara can most likely control the ten tails with his dojutsu or just restrict him with the wood release.

he even has the rinnegan so madara can just absorb chakra from the ten tails and use his deva path powers and the asure path for defensive and offensive too.

Do u really think those would work on Juubi, I doubt those lil tech can cause a threat to ten-tails. Ten tails power was great to control even for So6P and he had hard time being his Jinchuuriki.

 

[Roby]

well if madara fought naruto, naruto would be outmacthed because madara can absorb and use meteors and use sussanno in it so naruto can't win agianst something like that he has to escape.

i am saying naruto cannot beat him if they did meet naruto will die unless he is saved or escapes.

Exept plot no jutsu can make naruto fart madara to pieces if needed... Besaids madara will be defeated by either sasuke or naruto or them both vs madara... he may go to naruto as he stated then find tobi with juubi take the juubi and then will pop in sasuke with power beyound so6p and oneshot madara..
I bet sasuke will get another power up by oro to beat madara anyway (the usual kishi way)

Back to topic madara may have the feats of so6p but he hasnt shown much of hes power + no one really knows what sage can do so you cant assume that just cos madara has senju+uchiha blood and rinnegan he autoknows all jutsus in the world that sage knew...

 

[OOOOOO]

I agree that he is the closest person to so6p's level. But not quite on his level...

I would say tobi is nearest to the SO6P. with the gedo mazo and $hit

 

[zenkutsu]

rikudo sennin would still rape madara

 

[karol the don]

well i dont think so that far,but what i know is he is the closet from all other charackters !

 

[Uchiha Leader]

well i dont think so that far,but what i know is he is the closet from all other charackters !

he is the closest to the sage

rikudo sennin would still rape madara

maybe but madara is close onto his base level.

I would say tobi is nearest to the SO6P. with the gedo mazo and $hit

but he doesn't have the susanno and genjutsu and amerterasu or hasn't shown the mangekyou and ems to get the natural evolution and wood release(yang)

Exept plot no jutsu can make naruto fart madara to pieces if needed... Besaids madara will be defeated by either sasuke or naruto or them both vs madara... he may go to naruto as he stated then find tobi with juubi take the juubi and then will pop in sasuke with power beyound so6p and oneshot madara..
I bet sasuke will get another power up by oro to beat madara anyway (the usual kishi way)

Back to topic madara may have the feats of so6p but he hasnt shown much of hes power + no one really knows what sage can do so you cant assume that just cos madara has senju+uchiha blood and rinnegan he autoknows all jutsus in the world that sage knew...

we know stuff about the sage we haven't seen him in a fight but we now the abiliities and we can say madara has most of his abilities so far except the ten tails and the tools so madara is not far from the sage of six paths base level.

Yes. I was going to tell that. I agree with u

ok

Do u really think those would work on Juubi, I doubt those lil tech can cause a threat to ten-tails. Ten tails power was great to control even for So6P and he had hard time being his Jinchuuriki.

it is the rinnegan the preta bath absorbs chakra and that would work on the ten tails the rinnegan has enormous power.

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

The SO6P was able to beat up the Juubi so even if Edo Madara had the Juubi he would still be weaker than the SO6P.

He is just on another level entirely.

 

[Lentz]

Goku f*cks them all up.

 

[Uchiha Leader]

The SO6P was able to beat up the Juubi so even if Edo Madara had the Juubi he would still be weaker than the SO6P.

He is just on another level entirely.

madara can fight the ten tails and most likely manipulate it since he has yin and yang from his dojutsu and hashirama abilities.

madara cannot die and can replenish his chakra so he could do sucidal jutsu's to just hurt the ten tails til he wares the ten tails down.

 

[Uchiha Leader]

Goku f*cks them all up.

he is not in their universe though.