isn't madara already on the sage of six path base level

is madara on the sage of six path(with out the ten tails) level


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Bro nicely spoken yeh. +REP
 

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Madara is only a fraction of the sage powers
 

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I would say edo madara is probably the closest we've seen. Since he has unlimited chakra he may alsO be able to do something similar than what the Sage did. He also may be able to perform izanagi. So for now he is the closest.
 

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Meh not really, the closest person to the so6p is Tobi atm

OT: Meh not rly because the sage made the moon on his deathbed after getting the juubi out of himself to trap it.
 

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considering the so6p created the ninja world its kinda hard to put anyone on his level because without him madara would never have been anything so you cant really compare madara to so6p paybe he is on the level of the sons but not the sage himself =)
 

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No, not even close.

Madara is only a fraction of the sage powers

how when he has rinnegan,younger son and elder son bloodline,madara can do wood release too to tame tailed beast and manipulate them he evn manipulates the nine tails easy and is the only one who ever could plus he has hashirama power to retrain the tialed beast and lock them up.

the two bloodlines are together and you get sage of six path's base power then with the ten tails they go on par with the sage of six path's.

the only thing madara doesn't have is the ten tails which is about to be revived.
 

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considering the so6p created the ninja world its kinda hard to put anyone on his level because without him madara would never have been anything so you cant really compare madara to so6p paybe he is on the level of the sons but not the sage himself =)
he only invented ninjutsu and his inventions of ninjutsu have been improved over time, someone was bound to do it but the sage was the one to do it, even if the sage is the creator of basic ninjutsu it doesn't mean he is the best.
I would say edo madara is probably the closest we've seen. Since he has unlimited chakra he may alsO be able to do something similar than what the Sage did. He also may be able to perform izanagi. So for now he is the closest.
yea because he has everything besides the ten tails.
Meh not really, the closest person to the so6p is Tobi atm

OT: Meh not rly because the sage made the moon on his deathbed after getting the juubi out of himself to trap it.

okay but that is because he had the life force of the younger son which madara has too, also the sage was the ten tails host which gave him inhuman power and if madara becomes the jinchuriki he will be on par.
 
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i just don't see what most of you guys are saying. Madara has the the sage of six path's power.

Madara has the younger son and elder son dna in him now so that makes him into the sages category of power.
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Madara has the rinnegan just like the sage of six path's and has good dna.

If to be on the sages level you must require just the younger son dna(any relative to the senju) and the elder son dna(uchiha or relatives to them).


madara was born with special chakra and has the best dojutsu which is the rinnegan while the hashirama has the ability to use a kgwhich was wood release.

madara has gotten the best from the two clans it is not like he just got any from both clans he got the best from both sides.

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madara and hashirama are already on the sages level they equal the sage together.Also who can beat madara no one can, be honest.Even if hashirama can somehow get ressurrected he cannot beat his ability with another added on great power of the elder son it is too hard for him to do.

Madara would defeat the kages they are no match for him, they can only delay him and if madara goes for the kyubi naruto is going to die anyway if tobi revives the ten tails and be truthful and gives madara the ten tails since he has tyskuyomi then madara is at the sages on par or close on the sages level.


basically madara and hashirama are the best from both clans in an era and madara has two powerful kg now and the younger son and elder son dna so he entered the sage's base level.Madara moon eye plan is about to happen to revive the ten tails if this is completed and madara gets the ten tails he is on par with the sage there is no denying it.


so do you agree that madara is on the base level of the sage(without the ten tails) or not even close?
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1)hes not even close
2)naruto can and minato and saske and itachi
3)even though he has the dna of both clans he still wouldnt be able to control all tailled beast5 come on the origanil couldnt even and control all of them thats what i thinkl ha:ice::noc::shrug:xd
 

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1)hes not even close
2)naruto can and minato and saske and itachi
3)even though he has the dna of both clans he still wouldnt be able to control all tailled beast5 come on the origanil couldnt even and control all of them thats what i thinkl ha:ice::noc::shrug:xd

madara can contain all tailed beast with wood release and can also control all of them with his dojutsu.

madara has everything of the sage except the ten tails which is about to be revived so i am saying madara is close to the sage of six path base state(when the sage did not have the ten tails.)
 
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madara can contain all tailed beast with wood release and can also control all of them with his dojutsu.

madara has everything of the sage except the ten tails which is about to be revived so i am saying madara is close to the sage of six path base state(when the sage did not have the ten tails.)

see you even said it when he didmt have the ten tails how do we know that madara can control the ten tails he might be close to being the sage of six paths but hes close not all the way so he might not be able tocontrol it
 

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okay but that is because he had the life force of the younger son which madara has too, also the sage was the ten tails host which gave him inhuman power and if madara becomes the jinchuriki he will be on par.

No you see when the sage created the moon on his deathbed he didn't have the juubis chakra because he distributed and dispersed it already making him a non jinchurki at the time. Can Madara do this right now let alone on his death bed at his current level.

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see you even said it when he didmt have the ten tails how do we know that madara can control the ten tails he might be close to being the sage of six paths but hes close not all the way so he might not be able tocontrol it

No you see when the sage created the moon on his deathbed he didn't have the juubis chakra because he distributed and dispersed it already making him a non jinchurki at the time. Can Madara do this right now let alone on his death bed at his current level.

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i am saying that since the sage was already a jinchuriki he had inhuman abilities and most traits probably stayed with him like gaara but i wouldn't know that.

madara can if he has the same blood line like the sage and his chakra can replenish so maybe he can i think it is possible if madara ever got the ten tails and was on a death bed somehow since he is an edo he shouldn't die but madara could do it since he has infinite chakra/special chakra/powerful chakra and a former ten tails host, that is just my take on things.
 

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The Sage fought with the 10 tails with his own power and won. Madara lost against 1 human.

You seem to misunderstand something. He created the moon with his own power. When he created the moon, the Juubi had already been separated into the 9 Beasts, meaning he didn't have any help from the Juubi's chakra.

The Madara we see now isn't using his own power. He is an Edo, with the 1st DNA. And even still, the Sage is still more powerful. When we see Madara use COAT, then I'll be impressed.
 
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The Sage fought with the 10 tails with his own power and won. Madara lost against *1* human.

You seem to misunderstand something. He created the moon with his *own* power. When he created the moon, the Juubi had already been separated into the 9 Beasts, meaning he didn't have any help from the Juubi's chakra.

he lost on purpose to gain the future.

madara can most likely manipulate the ten tails since he can actually easily control the nine tails hatred and the nine tails recognizes his hatred.

i am saying that since the sage was already a jinchuriki he would be like gaara keeping most of his jinchuriki traits so he would still have a large chakra pool and the sage didn't die because that is the younger son bloodline which madara has.

i know that he seperated the ten tails from him self but since it was already in him he still remained with that inhuman power gaara kept some of his jinchuriki traits.
 

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Theoretically Madara could do everything So6p could do so I guess you're right. Sadly there is no one around who can push Madara to prove you right.
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