[Discussion] Isn't it hilarious?

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That One Piece and HxH, arguably two of the few remaining good manga left in SJ both have half-baked fodder "follower" manga series with elements clearly ripped off from them: those two being Naruto and Fairy Tail, as I'm sure you're all aware.

Kishi and FT's creator should get together and make some twincest hentai (as I'm sure many - not including myself, but rather those that don't like good story and character progression would love.), maybe then they'll get views and ratings that are at least a fraction of One Piece and it's infinite glory.

Why are OP and HxH so great? One would say at first glance that it's evidently the amazing characters they have, like Whitebeard and Killua respectively, but I believe there's something more than that to these series, something that Nardo and FT don't have.

Good character development? Solid pacing? Original ideas? Yeah most likely.
 

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IMO

One Piece original ideas? Yeah right, main character's a rubberman.
 

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OP/HxH are amazing. I will make a thank-you thread once I'm done getting caught up with HxH. Anyways Kishi shouldn't have used HxH as a template... I mean look how terrible Shippuden turned out to be. I can't comment on FT since I didn't even read that series yet and I don't plan to either.

Yeah it is funny...
Kishi rips off of HxH
Hero rips off of OP

Kishi/Hero's series probably have plot-holes up the ass now.
 

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No, not hilarious at all. Was expecting something humorous ffs
 

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That One Piece and HxH, arguably two of the few remaining good manga left in SJ both have half-baked fodder "follower" manga series with elements clearly ripped off from them: those two being Naruto and Fairy Tail, as I'm sure you're all aware.

Kishi and FT's creator should get together and make some twincest hentai (as I'm sure many - not including myself, but rather those that don't like good story and character progression would love.), maybe then they'll get views and ratings that are at least a fraction of One Piece and it's infinite glory.

Why are OP and HxH so great? One would say at first glance that it's evidently the amazing characters they have, like Whitebeard and Killua respectively, but I believe there's something more than that to these series, something that Nardo and FT don't have.

Good character development? Solid pacing? Original ideas? Yeah most likely.

I feel like this is a solid FANBOY thread lol, Naruto adopted SOME similarities to the chunn exams, the story, background, characters, and every other arc -.- Is nothing like Hunter x Hunter, I don't see Naruto on a video game island playing Magic the gathering (extreme edition)

Or fighting an army of mutated animals Lead by Cell 2.0 oh i mean Meruem (Original -.-)

Hunter x Hunter lacks character development, they're just good at making some dramatic situations. Killua ripping the nail out, and Gon getting THAT pissed off after seeing someone he barely even knew get killed is not character development, Thats putting him in a dramatic situation. He didnt know kite long enough to actually be that torn up about him other than the fact he knew his dad who abandoned him when he was like 4 months old.... Also what pacing does it have? Gon and Killua are just doing Random things.

One piece is by far one of the most unoriginal stories out there, its just a melting pot full of stuff. There is a ****ing transvestite super power -.- Also which one piece character do you believe to be developed?

Fairy Tail FEELS like one piece but at the end of the day its different. i personally don't like Fairy tail but i can see why others do

Narutos story is original, but somethings are adopted from somewhere else but that doesnt take away from the story. He bases characters off of inspirations, Like Rock lee and bruce lee, Jiraiya and the sannin are portrayed from old japanese stories, the sharingan techniques are all japanese gods, Pain is the 6 paths of reincarnation etc. And in all honesty nobody can argue with me when i say that naruto has the best supporting cast. Since everybody wants more of the side characters in naruto -.- But nobodies begging for more krillin or leorio. And people tend to get sick of seeing ussop or chopper on panels in this arc. I wonder how Kurapikas doing tho. Been a while since we heard from him havent we -.-

Also does oda even know what death is? Like seriously other than Ace and Whitebeard and that feather chick who's bit the dust? After how many years... And yet people ***** at naruto for not having enough xD Its just hypocrisy at its finest.
 

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Stupid hater, FT is not hentai and Obito is not a bad villain, I hate all of you haters that say HxH > SAO
 

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Also does oda even know what death is? Like seriously other than Ace and Whitebeard and that feather chick who's bit the dust? After how many years... And yet people ***** at naruto for not having enough xD Its just hypocrisy at its finest.

my friend, if I was arguing on behalf of the Naruto story I wouldn't complain about ''death'' in any other manga

I have just two things left to say: ''Edo tensei'' and ''rinne tensei''

debate won and closed
 

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my friend, if I was arguing on behalf of the Naruto story I wouldn't complain about ''death'' in any other manga

I have just two things left to say: ''Edo tensei'' and ''rinne tensei''

debate won and closed

There are characters that have still died and aren't revived and the characters that are revived are still dead :|

This thread is terrible
 

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I feel like this is a solid FANBOY thread lol, Naruto adopted SOME similarities to the chunn exams, the story, background, characters, and every other arc -.- Is nothing like Hunter x Hunter, I don't see Naruto on a video game island playing Magic the gathering (extreme edition)
rofl "some" haha XD The kishi. wank is real.
 

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my friend, if I was arguing on behalf of the Naruto story I wouldn't complain about ''death'' in any other manga

I have just two things left to say: ''Edo tensei'' and ''rinne tensei''

debate won and closed

Debate won? With Zombie and resurrection lol. COming from some a guy with a DBZ avatar i don't really wanna rebuttal but since you wanna claim a win so fast -.- Edo tense is no longer a factor since its ove, all thats left is the Kages, but like i said Zombies, they're still Dead Rinne Tensei has only been used Once to revive fodder and kakashi. And then Madara the Main Villain as of now.

Uchiha clan, (dead)
Haku, (dead)
Zabuza, (dead)
Sasori (Dead)
Deidara (Dead)
Nagato (Dead)
Konan (Dead)
Itachi (Dead)
Kisame (Dead)
Rest of Akatsuki (Dead/ soon to die with obito and zetsu)
Neji (Dead)
Jiraiya (dead)
Asuma (Dead)
Jinchuriki (Dead)
Nameless Fodder (Dead)
And other antagonists like the sound 5 (Dead)

Point proven/ STFU or Present facts

rofl "some" haha XD The kishi. wank is real.

Ok give me a list of anything thats a direct copy of Hunter x Hunter. Other than getting the other players ten to pass everything that happened in naruto was on its own. They didn't sneak into restaurants or jog for 5 episodes. Then had a mini game/battle/rock paper scissor fight. Nor was the final stages of the Hunter exam even explored went over since Gon passed out. He was just told the results of who won what. In Naruto A war started and went its own way xD so like i said SOME similarities (Scrolls/Tags and a 1v1 fight) Thats it.

Give me a list of any direct copies (Evidence) or STFU
 
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I don't see the joke , but then again I don't read either of this mangas .
 

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I agree with HxH and naruto especially at the first arcs .You just cant watch HxH without thinking of naruto plot resemblance to HxH ,its almost the same plot.


But i disagree with FT and one piece. Sure FT is inspried a lot by OP but still the plot is wayy different and both manga give different feelings .
I see the only resamblance ischaracters design and some personality traits .
Gon is pretty much a rip off of Goku.

No ,not really ,he is too different .
 

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Also does oda even know what death is? Like seriously other than Ace and Whitebeard and that feather chick who's bit the dust? After how many years... And yet people ***** at naruto for not having enough xD Its just hypocrisy at its finest.

Oh Noes..... Another argument about Oda not killing people. What shall we ever do....

This was from another thread with this topic that no one countered.
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lol. Not true at all. According to wiki, 87 people have died in one piece, including one of the main characters of the SH Pirates.
I'll list a few.
Gol D. Roger, Fisher Tiger, Otohime, Kuina, Bell-mère, Dr. Hiluluk, Tom, Jaguar D. Saul, Olvia, Joy Boy, Monet, Vergo, Mr 11, Ace, White Beard, Merry, Scarlett, Thatch, Tsumegeri Guards, and Yorki

Some of those characters listed were from flashbacks to develop other characters. Some of them were to develop the plot. Some of them the villain of the arc killed. And some of them were villains that have died.


Is that enough deaths for you?

Probably not because you would say something like they were all fodder and didn't die in the current story line, or they weren't the main heroes or villains of the story.

Well you want a list of the protagonists that have died in One Piece?
Ace
WB
Merry
Brook
Sure one is a ship and the other is just bones, but they count.


How many protagonists have actually died in Naruto?
Hiruzen
Asuma
Jiraiya
Neji
Anyone else was an antagonist that turned good, was a secondary character, or died before the main story.


4 and 4... Naruto sure has a lot of good people dying all the time. So much more then that other manga One Piece.

Ok but Naruto has killed more people then Luffy has right?

..............
I count zero for both.

No wait, the other characters around the main character has killed people before right?

Strawhat Pirates, zero.

Sakura.......zero Sasori let himself die by the granny
Sasuke. Orochimaru is still alive, Deidara blew himself up, Itachi died of Aids before he could kill Sasuke, and Danzo blew himself up.


Another big fat Zero.


I guess the argument should actually be if villains should die more in One Piece because lots of villains in Naruto have died(unless they turned good).

Even though Oda said he would not kill the antagonists because he felt them losing their dream after getting their ass kicked by Luffy was worse than death, he actually has killed of antagonists recently(Vergo and Monet).

Actually I find him not killing off the villains has been better for the overall plot. Let's take a look at all the major villains Luffy has beaten instead of dying.

Morgan. Used to develop Coby as a side character.
Buggy. He basically made it possible for Luffy to escape Impel Down and is now a Shichibukai serving to better the plot later.
Alvida. Partnered up with Buggy to beat Luffy. Currently is in charge of the Buggy crew in Buggy's absence.
Kuro. Got his ass kicked. Serves no point of being alive atm.
Don Krieg. Got his ass kicked. Serves no point of being alive atm.
Arlong. Got his ass kicked. Serves no point of being alive atm, but was used later in flashbacks in Fishman Island.
Smoker. Still in pursuit of Luffy and was used as an ally on some occasions.
All of Baroque Works Agents. Mr 2 and 3, huge assets in Impel Down. Robin joined the crew. The rest are used for future encounters.
Crocodile. More Impel Down and Marineford stuffs.
Enel. Used to develop the whole moon thing in the cover pages.
Lucci. A possible gambler seen in Punk Hazzard. May be of use later but unclear.
Moria. Foreshadowed to be seen later but has yet to be.
The Admirals, Self explanatory
Hody. He was imprisoned and made useless. The King got to deal with him for his satisfaction.
Cesar Clown. Currently being held captive by the SH's
Donflamingo. Yet to be seen if he dies or not.


Basically all the villains have been used later in the series or will be, minus the East Blue villains at the beginning of the series.

Versus Naruto's villains who basically just get revived by Edo Tensei to further the progression of the plot....

Let's take a look at the Villains Naruto has fought.

Haku and Zabuza. Died and revived by ET to say he became a good ninja.
Random people in the Forest of Death. Still alive, haven't been seen since.
Kiba. Turned good
Neji. Turned good
Gaara. Turned good
Kabuto. Still alive, started a war and abused ET.
Orochimaru. Died then revived, then died, then revived. Maybe good.
Sasuke. No explanation needed....
Kakuzu. Kakashi killed after Naruto kicked his ass with plot.
Nagato/Pain. Died by a book....
Obito. Turned good and still alive.
Madara. Most likely going to die.


The rest of the villains someone else fought and killed. Most of the time it was a grown up.


I mean comparing the lists, there isn't much of an argument saying Naruto villains were killed off when half of them turned good and the other half committed suicide. Most Naruto fanboys seem to neglect how these villains died and just compare deaths numbers.


When it comes to meaningful deaths, One Piece takes the cake. Jiraiya is the only one that comes close to being as impactful as Ace, Merry, and WB were. Mainly because he wasn't revived by edo tensei. As flashback deaths go, Minato and Kushina were really the only ones where One Piece has so many good deaths in flashbacks.


As for the topic at hand. I'm sure there is something in this post that relates to what you want.


Do you want to retract the hypocrisy statement now, or do you want to counter my points I made.
 

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I would agree with you if you didnt give these horrible examples,Whitebeard is the most generic old man in shounen and current Killua is boring and lame as f*ck,his character at this point revolves around Gon,far from ''amazing characters''.
 
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i don't have any problems with those 4 anime's you mentioned but oda also copied the Colosseum fights from fairy tail tournament right??? i don't mind if they are copying from something or other but i need a good plot with great character development,fun,sad,amusing and all these have done good job for me and i enjoy them all.
 
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