Islam is the religion of peace they say

[Gerkak]

Sugar coat it all you want. Big part of European and American muslims are f*cked in the head. That's what matters to the people of those countries. So there's a problem with islam in Europe and in USA.
They are regular muslims. Thus they represent regular muslims. You try to divert the attention from the problem to the fact that there are over a billion of muslim unaccoundet for in this polls. Even if those unaccounted people are more conservative in those thirld world and second world countries you mentioned.

And like I said, even if by some miracullous way the rest of the 1 billion muslims in other parts of the world don't think nearly the same as the muslims in Europe and US (then again why would they think 'cause most muslims in Africa believe in sharia law so ofcourse they are nice civilized people lol) then it doesn't mean there isn't a huge problem in muslim populations of Europe and US.

And lastly, my country has huge problems with immigrants, meaning immigrants from muslim countries (Somalia and Iraq) commits rape on an average factor of 13 in relation to the people born here. 13 times more than the natives! Wow. They also commit more crimes in relation to the people born in here. So my original point still stands. Islam is not a peaceful religions. No matter where the muslims come from.
Admit it and maybe you will have a purpose in life.

You use most when your proof is shows minorities that means you are making assumptions.

You didn't acknowledge my crime example as expected because it reflects this, but I know you will say that's different

So a minority represent the majority welp that means by your logic racist white american police officers represent the average white person too after all both parties are white.

Lol your pitiful examples where are the terrorists in Africa, somalia has a very small population you are still using minorities and assumptions, again no surprises here

Wow so because your country has problems with immigrants you blame their religion alone, did you question their up bringing? Nope. It is unfortunate that they do such things. communist Russia did terrible things, I know l'll just blame atheists because that's what they are. Yet we don't blame atheists

You can choose to accept it or not but you have done nothing but generalize, you choose to hold on to petty backward beliefs, what you are doing is no different from racism.

I have a purpose in life, my life's great. I am not affected by single topic in a single forum, nor do I have any delusions about the real problems here.

 

[Ripple Hole]

Smh, dem muslims. Has multiple muslim sects who interpret the Quran differently,
but they deny that right to ISIS and think their words change the fact that they belong
to the same religion. Every sect cherry picks whatever it wants as well, yet ISIS is an exception?

Definition of bigot. Nah, trying to cut ties with them as if Islam isn't the source.:lol
:sdo:

 

[Gerkak]

Smh, dem muslims. Has multiple muslim sects who interpret the Quran differently,
but they deny that right to ISIS and think their words change the fact that they belong
to the same religion. Every sect cherry picks whatever it wants as well, yet ISIS is an exception?

Definition of bigot. Nah, trying to cut ties with them as if Islam isn't the source.:lol
:sdo:

Yup black people trying to say they're not criminals when they are the majority in prisons, they try to act like they aren't the same race.

See what I did there?

 

[Dark Sonic]

Yup black people trying to say they're not criminals when they are the majority in prisons, they try to act like they aren't the same race.

See what I did there?

Like all Hispanics playing cross country but that ain't the case. Yup!!!!

 

[-immortal-]

Yes islam is the religion of peace well said?

Now you only have to know the difference between evil and good , victim and killer , terrorist and muslim then you might have a braincel left

 

[Ripple Hole]

Yup black people trying to say they're not criminals when they are the majority in prisons, they try to act like they aren't the same race.

See what I did there?

This is what muslim defenders keep pulling, I'm not saying all muslims are terrorists.
I'm not even saying most, but this is what is brought up. I'm saying the terrorists are a part of
the muslim community, yet some of them feel the need to deny it.

Not even assigning the word terrorist to muslims, but assigning the word muslim
to select terrorist(s).

It'd be like me seeing blacks in prison for murder and saying "I ain't in their race, bruh."
People do attack muslims and have a disdain for them because of ISIS actions when both
sides are the victims, but that ultimately isn't even what anyone is talking about half of the
time when they say ISIS belongs to the muslim community.

 

[Hawker]

You use most when your proof is shows minorities that means you are making assumptions.

You didn't acknowledge my crime example as expected because it reflects this, but I know you will say that's different

So a minority represent the majority welp that means by your logic racist white american police officers represent the average white person too after all both parties are white.

Lol your pitiful examples where are the terrorists in Africa, somalia has a very small population you are still using minorities and assumptions, again no surprises here

Wow so because your country has problems with immigrants you blame their religion alone, did you question their up bringing? Nope. It is unfortunate that they do such things. communist Russia did terrible things, I know l'll just blame atheists because that's what they are. Yet we don't blame atheists

You can choose to accept it or not but you have done nothing but generalize, you choose to hold on to petty backward beliefs, what you are doing is no different from racism.

I have a purpose in life, my life's great. I am not affected by single topic in a single forum, nor do I have any delusions about the real problems here.

Your problem avoiding skills are remarkable. But that is to be expected from religious people.

I'm not making assumptions. Numerous studies and polls show that there is a problem with islam in most of the modern western countries.

Again I will try to spell this out for you. There is a problem with islam in Europe, United States, northern Africa and the Middle-East. Don't you see a pattern here? Are you that thick?
Somalia represents the culture of muslims since Islam is their main religion. And did I say anything about terrorist in Somalia? I said that sharia law is enforced in many northern African and Middle-East countries.

You are comparing race to religon. That's a completely different thing. Race, to where those racists cops are part of, consists of many different subcategories, cultures etc. I'm talking about one religion which has specific guidelines, which is a law religion in most muslim countries and which defines muslim culture. Your comparison is just plain stupid.

Immigration of muslims has failed in Britain, Norway, Sweden, Finland, France, Holland and Germany. It's not just my country you naive child. For example in Britain the country has benefited from immigrants inside of EU, but the muslim part of immigrants has cost them 120 billion more than they paid in taxes.

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Again problem with muslims. In Sweden as the muslim population is growing they have the highest numbers of rapes happening in the whole Europe.

Admit the problem in the countries I listed or go educate yourself. There's really so much I can say to a thickhead like you about the negative impacts on your culture to the modern society.

 

[Gerkak]

This is what muslim defenders keep pulling, I'm not saying all muslims are terrorists.
I'm not even saying most, but this is what is brought up. I'm saying the terrorists are a part of
the muslim community, yet some of them feel the need to deny it.

Not even assigning the word terrorist to muslims, but assigning the word muslim
to select terrorist(s).

It'd be like me seeing blacks in prison for murder and saying "I ain't in their race, bruh."
People do attack muslims and have a disdain for them because of ISIS actions when both
sides are the victims, but that ultimately isn't even what anyone is talking about half of the
time when they say ISIS belongs to the muslim community.

I didn't say those in prison, I said those outside of it. I never in this thread defended ISIS I wasn't even in support of muslims my point was that the issue is a collective human problem not a problem belonging to one group.

There are good muslims and there are bad ones, there are good atheists and there are bad ones etc.

The bad ones are created by human choice to commit crimes not only by their communities and the beliefs of their neighbors, the first slave ship was called Jesus and was sanctioned by the Pope, nobody should blame Christians or their faith for that. Humans choose to do bad things like racism, terrorism, rape, murder etc. Don't generalize and blame a group whose majority don't do those things.

Your problem avoiding skills are remarkable. But that is to be expected from religious people.

I'm not making assumptions. Numerous studies and polls show that there is a problem with islam in most of the modern western countries.

Again I will try to spell this out for you. There is a problem with islam in Europe, United States, northern Africa and the Middle-East. Don't you see a pattern here? Are you that thick?
Somalia represents the culture of muslims since Islam is their main religion. And did I say anything about terrorist in Somalia? I said that sharia law is enforced in many northern African and Middle-East countries.

You are comparing race to religon. That's a completely different thing. Race, to where those racists cops are part of, consists of many different subcategories, cultures etc. I'm talking about one religion which has specific guidelines, which is a law religion in most muslim countries and which defines muslim culture. Your comparison is just plain stupid.

Immigration of muslims has failed in Britain, Norway, Sweden, Finland, France, Holland and Germany. It's not just my country you naive child. For example in Britain the country has benefited from immigrants inside of EU, but the muslim part of immigrants has cost them 120 billion more than they paid in taxes.

You must be registered for see links

Again problem with muslims. In Sweden as the muslim population is growing they have the highest numbers of rapes happening in the whole Europe.

Admit the problem in the countries I listed or go educate yourself. There's really so much I can say to a thickhead like you about the negative impacts on your culture to the modern society.

Indeed there is nothing you can say, because you have run out of assumptions all your evidence shows minorities yet you preach that these are majority figures, how an you prove anything if you don't even agree with your own evidence? :lol

Yes it is the same thing, I can't generalize white people using a handful of racist white cops that's foolish, the same way I can't generalize muslims, jews etc based on the actions of a few of them.

Immigration has failed, that shows your racism right there, who says all immigrants are muslims? I see now the main problem is you are upset that your country accepts so many immigrants. Well that is your countries fault for taking in people it can't handle, do not blame it on the faith.

You keep saying my culture, my religion. Neither is true these things have nothing to do with me. It is obvious how simple you are, you think that one can only go against your views if they believe in the opposite. You are too stubborn to see that the issue is a collective human problem not something belonging to only one group. You are no different from the nazi that blamed innocent Jews for stealing the wealth of Germany when only a few elite Jews were responsible. It doesn't matter if you won't give up your flawed views my points have been laid out.

 

[Ripple Hole]

I didn't say those in prison, I said those outside of it. I never in this thread defended ISIS I wasn't even in support of muslims my point was that the issue is a collective human problem not a problem belonging to one group.

There are good muslims and there are bad ones, there are good atheists and there are bad ones etc.

The bad ones are created by human choice to commit crimes not only by their communities and the beliefs of their neighbors, the first slave ship was called Jesus and was sanctioned by the Pope, nobody should blame Christians or their faith for that. Humans choose to do bad things like racism, terrorism, rape, murder etc. Don't generalize and blame a group whose majority don't do those things.

Again, what are you even talking about >.> I never mentioned you defending ISIS, and I never mangled good muslims together with bad muslims. I'm literally saying the two belong to the same religion yet muslims keep denying it, nothing more. Aside from that Islam can spawn
awful shit.

 

[Hawker]

I didn't say those in prison, I said those outside of it. I never in this thread defended ISIS I wasn't even in support of muslims my point was that the issue is a collective human problem not a problem belonging to one group.

There are good muslims and there are bad ones, there are good atheists and there are bad ones etc.

The bad ones are created by human choice to commit crimes not only by their communities and the beliefs of their neighbors, the first slave ship was called Jesus and was sanctioned by the Pope, nobody should blame Christians or their faith for that. Humans choose to do bad things like racism, terrorism, rape, murder etc. Don't generalize and blame a group whose majority don't do those things.

When a certain group has relatively more bad apples than rest of the groups then there's something wrong with that group. Islam has relatively more psychopaths in the 1st world countries, than the rest of them. People that believe killing for religion is justified. You fail to see the correlation with culture. It's your problem not ours.

 

[Gerkak]

When a certain group has relatively more bad apples than rest of the groups then there's something wrong with that group. Islam has relatively more psychopaths in the 1st world countries, than the rest of them. People that believe killing for religion is justified. You fail to see the correlation with culture. It's your problem not ours.

You are the one moaning about it being a problem in your country not me, so now it is my problem not yours? :lol

Indeed, but you can't prove it has more bad apples with those minority figures can you? When you show me over 800 million muslims accepting those views I'll believe you and acknowledge that you were right. Until then....

Yep first world countries are the center of the world representing the worlds majority makes sense right? You forget that this is true for every minority that immigrate, what happened when Indians were brought to Malaysia by the British? Rape and murder, what happened when Italians came to America? Rape and murder etc. This always happens when immigrants come in regardless of their race or religion.

You need to look back on History before making what you do best, assumptions

Again, what are you even talking about >.> I never mentioned you defending ISIS, and I never mangled good muslims together with bad muslims. I'm literally saying the two belong to the same religion yet muslims keep denying it, nothing more. Aside from that Islam can spawn
awful shit.

Muslims deny it because in the faith those that don't follow its doctrines whether they claim to be a part of it are not seen as part by the majority. This is why they say this, this is their belief.

 

[Kamishiro]

What is with you people and Islam? Everything you dislike or if you are just mad at something you throw it at Islam. Seriously, have a habit of something. Fishing is the best option!

 

[Ripple Hole]

Muslims deny it because in the faith those that don't follow its doctrines whether they claim to be a part of it are not seen as part by the majority. This is why they say this, this is their belief.

Most muslims cherry pick.
Most religions cherry pick. Disobeying 1 ruling doesn't discontinue someone's association
with their religion.

What is with you people and Islam? Everything you dislike or if you are just mad at something you throw it at Islam. Seriously, have a habit of something. Fishing is the best option!

They're the new America.

 

[Gerkak]

Most muslims cherry pick.
Most religions cherry pick. Disobeying 1 ruling doesn't discontinue someone's association
with their religion.

They aren't disobeying one rule though and the difference between ISIS does and what the other groups do is vast. Like I said this is their belief. You can view t from your perspective still doesn't make either party right though

 

[Ripple Hole]

They aren't disobeying one rule though and the difference between ISIS does and what the other groups do is vast. Like I said this is their belief. You can view t from your perspective still doesn't make either party right though

You talking about cereal?

 

[Dark Sonic]

What is with you people and Islam? Everything you dislike or if you are just mad at something you throw it at Islam. Seriously, have a habit of something. Fishing is the best option!

Things no one will understand. ISIS, Islam. Arabs... Islam.., if only those that translate the Qur'an were more accurate, this wouldn't lead to such bad interpretations.

 

[Gerkak]

You talking about cereal?

Who's talking about cereal? Read again if you don't get it.

 

[Ripple Hole]

Who's talking about cereal? Read again if you don't get it.

You're talking about cereal.

 

[Gerkak]

You're talking about cereal.

If you says so. I prefer hot chocolate and toast in the morning though

 

[Hawker]

Indeed there is nothing you can say, because you have run out of assumptions all your evidence shows minorities yet you preach that these are majority figures, how an you prove anything if you don't even agree with your own evidence? :lol

Yes it is the same thing, I can't generalize white people using a handful of racist white cops that's foolish, the same way I can't generalize muslims, jews etc based on the actions of a few of them.

Immigration has failed, that shows your racism right there, who says all immigrants are muslims? I see now the main problem is you are upset that your country accepts so many immigrants. Well that is your countries fault for taking in people it can't handle, do not blame it on the faith.

You keep saying my culture, my religion. Neither is true these things have nothing to do with me. It is obvious how simple you are, you think that one can only go against your views if they believe in the opposite. You are too stubborn to see that the issue is a collective human problem not something belonging to only one group. You are no different from the nazi that blamed innocent Jews for stealing the wealth of Germany when only a few elite Jews were responsible. It doesn't matter if you won't give up your flawed views my points have been laid out.

What are you mumbling about? The figures, polls, studies and statistics are evidence of the correlation between the muslim culture and it's negative effects on modern world, Africa and Middle-East. If you are yoo thick to see that, then it's your problem. Muslims in those countries represent islam and we can say Islam has failed in here. That's all that matters from our point of view. Just live in denial. That's a defence mechanism for weak people.

Tens of millions of muslims form a problem in the western countries with their silent approval of killing in the name of religion. Yet you dismiss this fact.

Sharia law is a huge human rights problem in the Middle-East and Africa. Yet you dismiss this fact.

Womens rights are in a horrible state in Middle-East (muslims being the major ethnicity in those countries). Yet you dismiss this fact.

Muslim immigration has failed in Norway, Sweden, Britain, Finland, France, Holland and Germany. Proof are the economic and criminal statistics of those immigrants in relation to natives. Yet you dismiss this fact.

26% of the 3 million muslims in USA think that suicide bombings are justified. Yet you dismiss this fact.

Muslims wage war like barbarians in the Middle-East and have been doing so for decades. Yet you dismiss this fact.

Women rights are in horrible state in India. Yet you dismiss this fact.


Like I said race is different than a religion. It's a much more wider consept. Religion is an ideology. If you choose to follow that ideology you show that you accept everything it represents. It's simple as that. White race is not an ideology. It consists of thousands of cultures. Islam defines muslim culture. Cops don't define skin colour. Your comparison is stupid.