Islam is the religion of peace they say

[Dark Sonic]

In this post I've quoted everyone in this thread who have been either defending Islam blindly or just saying something that is in contradiction with what a big part of muslims think. Here's why: many people say that the problem is muslim fundamentalists. No. The problem is the muslim culture and islam as a whole. The problem is that it is a law religion with very conservative and discriminating values. The culture of muslims breeds psychopaths. Why is this? I don't know, but here is proof that fundamentalist mentality is in fact a generally accepted mindset in the communities of european muslims:

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers

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1/3 of muslim students in Britain think that killing in the name of religion is justified:

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NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified

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People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.

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YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:

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Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.

35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).

42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).

22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).

29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).

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Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified

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ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities. 27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.

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Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.

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Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).

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Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.

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Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks.

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Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam". 1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt. 1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia.

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Is this ok??! Almost half of the muslim youth in France think that suicide bombings are justified and almost half of muslims in Britain want a law that discriminates minorities and abuses/dominates women! There's no running from these facts. You muslims in this thread represent this ideology, so it means you accept everything it represents!
I hope this will put an end to this thread and make those who defended islam in this thread to leave their religion or atleast convert from it. Islam provokes violence and you know it!

You can't generalize Islam by polls. But if you wanna go there, then you should know there were rarely any suicide bombings in Iraq before 2003 AKA Bush's invasion.

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"A month-long investigation by The Independent, culling four Arabic-language newspapers, official Iraqi statistics, two Beirut news agencies and Western reports, shows that an incredible 1,121 Muslim suicide bombers have blown themselves up in Iraq. This is a very conservative figure and – given the propensity of the authorities (and of journalists) to report only those suicide bombings that kill dozens of people – the true estimate may be double this number. On several days, six – even nine – suicide bombers have exploded themselves in Iraq in a display of almost Wal-Mart availability. If life in Iraq is cheap, death is cheaper.

This is perhaps the most frightening and ghoulish legacy of George Bush's invasion of Iraq five years ago. Suicide bombers in Iraq have killed at least 13,000 men, women and children – our most conservative estimate gives a total figure of 13,132 – and wounded a minimum of 16,112 people. If we include the dead and wounded in the mass stampede at the Baghdad Tigris river bridge in the summer of 2005 – caused by fear of suicide bombers – the figures rise to 14,132 and 16,612 respectively. Again, it must be emphasised that these statistics are minimums. For 529 of the suicide bombings in Iraq, no figures for wounded are available.

In short words, blame Bush for this. ISIS wouldn't even happen if he hadn't invaded.

 

[Gerkak]

I'll just leave what I left on the last thread about the same exact topic.

Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, *** and a gluttonous paradise as incentives. He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle. Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

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Quran (40:71-72) - When the fetters and the chains shall be on their necks; they shall be dragged Into boiling water, then in the fire shall they be burned

Quran (22:19-21) - But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads; Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron

Quran (4:56) - Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise

Quran (56:92-94) - But if he is of the rejecters, the erring, then the welcome will be boiling water and roasting at hell-fire


As to what regard Muslims are to show for those who don't believe, the Quran says to be ruthless toward them, since they are going to Hell anyway:

Quran (9:73) - O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination


Quran (66:9) - O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end.

Quran (8:55) - Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve
Quran (9:30) - And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah... Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!

Quran (4:52) - Those (Christians) are they whom Allah hath cursed...

Quran (4:47) - O you (Jews) who have been given the Book! believe that which We have revealed, verifying what you have, before We alter faces then turn them on their backs, or curse them as We cursed the violaters of the Sabbath, and the command of Allah shall be executed.

Quran (5:59-60) - This verse begets the infamous belief on the part of some Muslims that Jews are descended from swine and apes, since it says that wicked Jews (at least) were transformed by Allah in the past. (See also 2:64)

Some of those verses are misconstrued. For example there is a difference between children of Israel and jews in the quran the translation does not acknowledge this,the first 4 verses you quoted were descriptions of hell it has nothing to do with this world. Those parts that have brackets have no meaning and were added later by Saudi translators, the Quran itself says it is clear and needs no refinement so any brackets were later added and are thus not part of the verse.

No verse did you quote states that muslims should kill non- muslims. Many believe that religion is a man made construct and deities are myths, then why do you quote parts that speak about after life punishments like hell? It should not matter to you since no muslim can thrown a non-muslim in hell especially if it doesn't exist :lol.

Hadith are not part of the Quran nor does god ever say in the quran that hadith should be followed or even speaks of it. The hadith were produced centuries after the Quran.

Yeah well how do you expect uncivilized people to suddently become civilized in a democracy?

I don't, but seems like the so called "civilized" people who live in democracies are beginning to act the same way, which is disappointing since they are the ones who are suppose to pave the way for the backward ones.

 

[King Kendrick]

Some of those verses are misconstrued. For example there is a difference between children of Israel and jews in the quran the translation does not acknowledge this,the first 4 verses you quoted were descriptions of hell it has nothing to do with this world. Those parts that have brackets have no meaning and were added later by Saudi translators, the Quran itself says it is clear and needs no refinement so any brackets were later added and are thus not part of the verse.

No verse did you quote states that Muslims should kill non- Muslims. Many believe that religion is a man-made construct and deities are myths, then why do you quote parts that speak about after life punishments like hell? It should not matter to you since no muslim can thrown a non-muslim in hell especially if it doesn't exist :lol.

Hadith are not part of the Quran nor does god ever say in the Qur'an that hadith should be followed or even speaks of it. The hadith were produced centuries after the Quran.



I don't, but seems like the so called "civilized" people who live in democracies are beginning to act the same way, which is disappointing since they are the ones who are suppose to pave the way for the backward ones.

The first for are descriptions of hell but if you read carefully it is saying anyone who "disbelieves" will be there .

But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads; Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron

I fail to see youre point. This is wether or not Islam is a religion of peace, clearly it is not ...

Quran (9:73) - O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination

Unbelievers belong in hell ? Evil is their destination ?

Quran (66:9) - O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end.

Same point.

Quran (8:55) - Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve

"The vilest animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelief."

Quran (4:52) - Those (Christians) are they whom Allah hath cursed...

Why exactly ??

The context of the Quran is with out a doubt evil. At least by today's standards.

 

[Hawker]

You can't generalize Islam by polls. But if you wanna go there, then you should know there were rarely any suicide bombings in Iraq before 2003 AKA Bush's invasion.

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In short words, blame Bush for this. ISIS wouldn't even happen if he hadn't invaded.

I also posted studies. I'm not generalizing, I'm saying there's something wrong with the muslim culture based on the fact that so many justify killing innocents, discriminating gays and abusing women. It's a shameful and outdated religion that doesn't belong in modern world. Most people of islam have not yet evolved to the level of our western socities moral standards.

You are a typical example of a person who victimizes the ones in fault. ISIS consists of group of males who act on their own consent. It's their choice. Don't try to sugar coat it Bush didn't tell them to kill innocent people.

Accept that your culture is the one at fault. There's no denying it. These problems are born from islamic backrounds.

 

[Gerkak]

The first for are descriptions of hell but if you read carefully it is saying anyone who "disbelieves" will be there .

But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads; Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron

I fail to see youre point. This is wether or not Islam is a religion of peace, clearly it is not ...

Unbelievers belong in hell ? Evil is their destination ?

Same point.

"The vilest animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelief."

Why exactly ??

The context of the Quran is with out a doubt evil. At least by today's standards.

Yes it is whether it is a religion of peace or not, but you fail to see the point indeed, these are said to be what happens to those who disbelieve after death. Again I will say nothing you quoted tells muslims not to live peacefully with others. If you want to go all hippie then don't take rapists and murders to prison that is "evil".Do you see my point? Everything has its own rules and beliefs about what justice is but as long as it does not leak into the lives of those that don't follow it and doesn't judge them in their current form then I see no problem. If you don't believe in an after life that favors muslims then whats the problem?

Christians feel they are the ones that'll go to heaven, same goes for the Jews etc. But this does not stop Christians from befriending non Christians. If the beliefs of muslims are not imposed on you and they are not told to impose their beliefs on you then it isn't a religion of hatred, simple as that.

 

[China IL]

People will argue you down to prove such an ignorant point. I agree ISIS has to pay for their crimes, but generalizing and attacking defenseless Muslims because of their religion won't solve anything (I'm just guessing that's why you chose to feel this way about all muslims). Honestly, you can't make everyone pay for the crimes only a handful did, it's not justice anymore, it's ignorance.

 

[Hawker]

People will argue you down to prove such an ignorant point. I agree ISIS has to pay for their crimes, but generalizing and attacking defenseless Muslims because of their religion won't solve anything (I'm just guessing that's why you chose to feel this way about all muslims). Honestly, you can't make everyone pay for the crimes only a handful did, it's not justice anymore, it's ignorance.

I just proved your statement wrong in my above post. There's something wrong with Islam and muslim culture if 20-40% of muslims in Europe think that suicide bombings and killing in the name of religion are justified. Just look at the polls and studies I posted. Don't you read what is posted before you post? It's not ignorance, it's the reality of your so called "peaceful religion" !

 

[Dark Sonic]

I also posted studies. I'm not generalizing, I'm saying there's something wrong with the muslim culture based on the fact that so many justify killing innocents, discriminating gays and abusing women. It's a shameful and outdated religion that doesn't belong in modern world. Most people of islam have not yet evolved to the level of our western socities moral standards.

You are a typical example of a person who victimizes the ones in fault. ISIS consists of group of males who act on their own consent. It's their choice. Don't try to sugar coat it Bush didn't tell them to kill innocent people.

Accept that your culture is the one at fault. There's no denying it. These problems are born from islamic backrounds.

Trust me the Arabs fked up themselves when they didn't want to work together. I'm saying Bush is the reason for ISIS when they overthrew the government I'm not sugar coating anything. ISIS is bad and I agree but that's the people making the religion/culture bad not the culture itself otherwise we'd all be "chaotic"

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

That's absurd and BS.

I said it many times that ISIS are non Muslims as it is mentioned in Hadith.

Wow. That was disturbing. Good thing I've had Muslim friends, or else I might have been ignorant enough to generalize all of them.
But if I ever see those friends again, I just might hit them in their jaws for smiling and laughing with me to my face while they worshipped a book that says to kill all "infidels" wherever they find them. I didn't know about the Quran commanding violence upon non-Muslims at the time.
I let them in my home many times, where my family was. My family and I, to them, are infidels. That's pretty damn disturbing and insulting.

You don't know about islam yet you want to argue over it?
Read the whole Quran or don't read it altogether.

If you are referencing quran's verse here then you should also have to provide a reference of hadith in which prophet Muhammad clearly indicated about ISIS and called them non Muslims.

You need some maturity.

 

[Hawker]

Trust me the Arabs fked up themselves when they didn't want to work together. I'm saying Bush is the reason for ISIS when they overthrew the government I'm not sugar coating anything. ISIS is bad and I agree but that's the people making the religion/culture bad not the culture itself otherwise we'd all be "chaotic"

No not all of you are chaotic but according to studies and polls 20-40% of muslims in Europe are close minded psychopaths with lack of empathy and remorse. The number are probably higher in Middle-East and especially in the countries where the sharia law is actually enforced.

So a big part of you are bad. Not all, or not even most, but a big part. That is a serious problem and it tells a lot about your culture as a whole.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

So based on what they're doing, you're labeling Islam as evil and non-peaceful and trying to impose restriction on Muslim immigrants? What is this BS? Where does the same judgement go when people from other religion or no religion at all commit evil deeds? Double standards much?

BTW, I suggest gaining knowledge about Islam rather than judging the entire Islamic population of 1.6 billion of the world by a mere couple of negative people which BTW are present in all religions. If Islam deserves the blame of what they're doing, that means Islam promotes this stuff, right? So the question is why aren't the rest of the Muslims doing it? Why is their such a tiny majority of such people?

 

[Hawker]

So based on what they're doing, you're labeling Islam as evil and non-peaceful and trying to impose restriction on Muslim immigrants? What is this BS? Where does the same judgement go when people from other religion or no religion at all commit evil deeds? Double standards much?

BTW, I suggest gaining knowledge about Islam rather than judging the entire Islamic population of 1.6 billion of the world by a mere couple of negative people which BTW are present in all religions. If Islam deserves the blame of what they're doing, that means Islam promotes this stuff, right? So the question is why aren't the rest of the Muslims doing it? Why is their such a tiny majority of such people?

Who are you replying to when there's no quote??

A mere couple? 20-40% is a mere couple? That's millions of muslims. Are you a bit thick?

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers

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1/3 of muslim students in Britain think that killing in the name of religion is justified:

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NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified

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People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.

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YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:

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Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.

35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).

42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).

22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).

29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).

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Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified

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ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities. 27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.

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Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.

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Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).

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Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.

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Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks.

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Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam". 1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt. 1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia.

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[Gerkak]

No not all of you are chaotic but according to studies and polls 20-40% of muslims in Europe are close minded psychopaths with lack of empathy and remorse. The number are probably higher in Middle-East and especially in the countries where the sharia law is actually enforced.

So a big part of you are bad. Not all, or not even most, but a big part. That is a serious problem and it tells a lot about your culture as a whole.

So 40% of Muslims in Europe which is a minority already in a continent with minority Muslim populations speaks for over 1.6 billion practitioners? Lol that's like me saying that the Buddhists killing Muslims in Myanmar represent all Buddhist who number in the hundreds of millions. Yours is a shallow argument, using minorities to represent majority taking the view of European Muslims just because they are in Europe over their non -European counter-parts can be viewed as a form of discrimination. Do you think that remaining billions of Muslims that don't have those views are stupid? Are you trying to promote some sort of European supremacy here? Please re-evaluate your conclusions.

 

[Dark Sonic]

So 40% of Muslims in Europe which is a minority already in a continent with minority Muslim populations speaks for over 1.6 billion practitioners? Lol that's like me saying that the Buddhists killing Muslims in Myanmar represent all Buddhist who number in the hundreds of millions. Yours is a shallow argument, using minorities to represent majority taking the view of European Muslims just because they are in Europe over their non -European counter-parts can be viewed as a form of discrimination. Do you think that remaining billions of Muslims that don't have those views are stupid? Are you trying to promote some sort of European supremacy here? Please re-evaluate your conclusions.

It's best to stop the replies. Nothing's going to change anyone's minds with "polls" I've already said my piece. I'll wait for another topic to arise.

 

[McKnockout]

F*ck Islam, sick of this shit.

idgaf

 

[Hawker]

So 40% of Muslims in Europe which is a minority already in a continent with minority Muslim populations speaks for over 1.6 billion practitioners? Lol that's like me saying that the Buddhists killing Muslims in Myanmar represent all Buddhist who number in the hundreds of millions. Yours is a shallow argument, using minorities to represent majority taking the view of European Muslims just because they are in Europe over their non -European counter-parts can be viewed as a form of discrimination. Do you think that remaining billions of Muslims that don't have those views are stupid? Are you trying to promote some sort of European supremacy here? Please re-evaluate your conclusions.

You clearly don't understand anything about relativity or the consept and principals of polls and studies.
And that isn't even the point. Even if you think that they don't represent the communities outside of Europe and US (which is probably true 'cause muslims in Middle-East are far more conservative than in Europe, so good luck with that "argument") then it still doesn't rule out the fact that the numbers are huge and they tell us there's a problem related to Islam.

There are estimated 44 million muslims living in Europe. 40% of that is 17 million!

And way to sugar coat the problem when there clearly is one. Those are huge numbers even in minorities. And these are the communities that are supposed to be more civil. Thank god for your sake we don't have the numbers from Middle-East. The percentages would be much higher.

The pew study I posted also adressed this same problem and psychopath mentality in the american muslim communities.

"26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified"

There are almost 3 million muslims in US. 26% of that is 780 000. Just admit the cold reality of your culture.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Idiocy of people here is really laughable.

Terrorist's main target is itself Muslims.99% of times, Muslims are the only victims of terrorists even the mosques are under the attack of terrorists more than churches or any other religious place.

How can they be Muslims if they are killing the Muslims?

Terrorist attack didn't happen in European countries and america before except few yet they are the one moaning over it.

Tony Blair already accepted his.mistake in the invasion of iraq and he accepted that Isis was formed because of their policies.

More than million Muslims were died in Iraq since then.globally figure of Muslim S's death due to terrorism is much higher than that.

France's incident happened for the first time while in muslim countries it happen every day.

 

[Gerkak]

You clearly don't understand anything about relativity or the consept and principals of polls and studies.
And that isn't even the point. Even if you think that they don't represent the communities outside of Europe and US (which is probably true 'cause muslims in Middle-East are far more conservative than in Europe, so good luck with that "argument") then it still doesn't rule out the fact that the numbers are huge and they tell us there's a problem related to Islam.

There are estimated 44 million muslims living in Europe. 40% of that is 17 million!

And way to sugar coat the problem when there clearly is one. Those are huge numbers even in minorities. And these are the communities that are supposed to be more civil. Thank god for your sake we don't have the numbers from Middle-East. The percentages would be much higher.

The pew study I posted also adressed this same problem and psychopath mentality in the american muslim communities.

"26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified"

There are almost 3 million muslims in US. 26% of that is 780 000. Just admit the cold reality of your culture.

I sugar coat nothing so 20 million in total believe that? Simple arithmetic deals with this.

1 billion 580 million muslims are unaccounted for in your polls are they irrelevant? Or do you just take numbers that suit your purposes. Just take a second to think about this, do you think that 20 million is a sizable number in comparison to 1.58 billion? Well I don't since there is no poll showing the majority of muslims having these views then you are generalizing. Your words will never hold weight, most crime in america is done by black men. I could just use this statistic and say there is something wrong with black men, even though the statistics do not represent the majority of black men in america let alone the world. But I'll generalize because I can. I mean you did it why can't I.

You are the one that understands nothing, there are more Muslims living in africa then the middle ease, there are more Muslims living in India then most of the middle east, there are more Muslims living in china then the entire population of Saudi Arabia and Iraq put together. You have the gal to say I don't understand may be you should stop to think before regurgitating what you read online.

Your assumptions again you said "ÿour culture", who says that is my culture? Who says that is my religion? That proves that you can only go against what has no sentimental value to you, typical. I don't support either side, the problem is a collective human problem but as usual humans don't want to take the blame and start to push it to one group or another and they ask why racism is still around.

 

[Dark Sonic]

Idiocy of people here is really laughable.

Terrorist's main target is itself Muslims.99% of times, Muslims are the only victims of terrorists even the mosques are under the attack of terrorists more than churches or any other religious place.

How can they be Muslims if they are killing the Muslims?

Terrorist attack didn't happen in European countries and america before except few yet they are the one moaning over it.

Tony Blair already accepted his.mistake in the invasion of iraq and he accepted that Isis was formed because of their policies.

More than million Muslims were died in Iraq since then.globally figure of Muslim S's death due to terrorism is much higher than that.

France's incident happened for the first time while in muslim countries it happen every day.

#BlameBush2015 new movement

 

[Hawker]

I sugar coat nothing so 20 million in total believe that? Simple arithmetic deals with this.

1 billion 580 million muslims are unaccounted for in your polls are they irrelevant? Or do you just take numbers that suit your purposes. Just take a second to think about this, do you think that 20 million is a sizable number in comparison to 1.58 billion? Well I don't since there is no poll showing the majority of muslims having these views then you are generalizing. Your words will never hold weight, most crime in america is done by black men. I could just use this statistic and say there is something wrong with black men, even though the statistics do not represent the majority of black men in america let alone the world. But I'll generalize because I can. I mean you did it why can't I.

You are the one that understands nothing, there are more Muslims living in africa then the middle ease, there are more Muslims living in India then most of the middle east, there are more Muslims living in china then the entire population of Saudi Arabia and Iraq put together. You have the gal to say I don't understand may be you should stop to think before regurgitating what you read online.

Your assumptions again you said "ÿour culture", who says that is my culture? Who says that is my religion? That proves that you can only go against what has no sentimental value to you, typical.

Sugar coat it all you want. Big part of European and American muslims are f*cked in the head. That's what matters to the people of those countries. So there's a problem with islam in Europe and in USA.
They are regular muslims. Thus they represent regular muslims. You try to divert the attention from the problem to the fact that there are over a billion of muslim unaccoundet for in this polls. Even if those unaccounted people are more conservative in those thirld world and second world countries you mentioned.

And like I said, even if by some miracullous way the rest of the 1 billion muslims in other parts of the world don't think nearly the same as the muslims in Europe and US (then again why would they think 'cause most muslims in Africa believe in sharia law so ofcourse they are nice civilized people lol) then it doesn't mean there isn't a huge problem in muslim populations of Europe and US.

And lastly, my country has huge problems with immigrants, meaning immigrants from muslim countries (Somalia and Iraq) commits rape on an average factor of 13 in relation to the people born here. 13 times more than the natives! Wow. They also commit more crimes in relation to the people born in here. So my original point still stands. Islam is not a peaceful religions. No matter where the muslims come from.
Admit it and maybe you will have a purpose in life.