Islam: Is It Able To Be Reformed? How Do We Go About Reforming It?

Lelouch Vii Britannia

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You can't deny that Islam is a confrontational religion. This religion is the only religion that tells you to make war with the non-believer. Do you realize that Jihad has been going on for 14000 years? The kill count is above 200 Million total deaths at the hands of Islamic destruction.

The religion teaches and permits this behavior which is why it's not the same as disliking a race of people because not all people are the same from a race but when people follow a specific teaching that teaches destruction and killing it's not islamophobic to be wary of that group.

Ehh actually it doesnt, our prefered method of preaching is sending preachers, also jihad is one of the most misunderstood things in the west, the word to westerners is violent while it actually means striving or struggling and only one of it is "violent" theres self jihad (which you fight the evil within you and strive to be good) etc, we're only allowed to fight when we're attacked and when theres injustice, examples the war against romans in syria and egypt where the romans stole the resources of the country, even the locals accepted the help and helped the fighting and the rest of history was political, finest example is the ottoman empire

Oh dear i wonder where you got those statistics

You do know that there are several factors to war and few of them are religious right (im talking about isis) its a result of the distruction in the middle east, which allowed for people to be taken by the violent interpretation
 

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Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."


The verses may seem defensive, but historically, Islam was not spread through defensive conquest but that of offense. If the crusades weren't launched, I think Europe would be mostly Muslim right now due to how fast Islam spread, not through conversion but by the end of a sword.


Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”


Here again we see this fixation on fighting, conquest and destruction. When raiding caravans, Muhammad would use this verse in order to steel men that were not willing to end lives.

Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

A clear sign that only a life of death and destruction is prescribed to the non-believer in Islam and in the next life, it shall be much worse with no one near to help them.

Quran (4:74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.”

This is a verse of encouragement for suicide bombers.

Lol just because you want a verse to mean something doesn't mean that's what it means.
 

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Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim should appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel that way..

. Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliya (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allah warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allah is the final return.


The Qu'ran allows Muslims to deceive should it allow them safety or that it should protect the faith. I would rather not ask Muslims what the context is of a clearly foul and dishonest verse, and would rather ask someone who doesn't have a bias. When a religion allows someone to deceive in order to "protect the faith" there really is no trusting them.

Can u go to the mosque by my house and tell them how to practice their religion because apparently they've been doing it wrong
 
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