ISIS' origins explained in 10 mins

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ISIS wouldn't have been able to rapidly grow and rise in popularity without USA's meddling. You don't get to use the word 'ignorant', that's hypocritical.
You just said your people help, but still insist on blaming the US.

And it doesn't matter how big of a role they played, everybody played a part in creating ISIS.

So stop crying over it. :|
 
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Ironic indeed we have only been here for so many years gasp did we start the crusades the 100 war the punic wars napolonic wars germanic wars the world wars 0o0 perhaps you should read in on a whole country in its entirety before categorize much of the country is against war 60% of the usa was against the 2001 iraqi war and if i remember correctly saddam threatend give chemical weapons to al qida or use them against the usa and we lead a coalition during desert storm so he had a motive which wasnt looked past so he caused that on his part and i might add chemical weapons have been illegal since the 1st world war
I know most american soldiers are against all the wars. 70% of the army voted for Ron Paul to begin with. Old news.
What's ironic is how usa changed the 'states department of war' to 'states department of national defense' and waged more wars under that new label.

What's funny was there was no Al Qaeda in Iraq to begin with when usa decided to plant boots on their soil. The threats are staged, mboy. Staged to get public approval to move american forces abroad.
 

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Really? That's ignorant to say. And If we didn't, people would get mad asking why nobody is doing anything.



You know damn well I don't tknow them names, but I know their other forces -a gut feeling. xd

The US is a member of Nato. Why separate them? :|
Same reason why you would seperate Steve Jobs from rest of the people who worked for Apple.
 

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Thats only 30 wars so your only 104 off
I wrote those down from my memory.. The 134 wars is a fact so do your homework.

You just said your people help, but still insist on blaming the US.

And it doesn't matter how big of a role they played, everybody played a part in creating ISIS.

So stop crying over it. :|
Actually, as a member of NATO and the EU we are forced to comply with certain agendas. We don't have much to say on the matter. You just have to realize I'm only pointing fingers at ordinary folks that fall for the war-propaganda such as demon of the leaf. I have nothing against the general american populace, that would be ridiculous. So correcting you people is me crying?
 

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who dosen't know this

its f@#king hilarious how US backs Saudi's[where human rights violation is common compared to other middle eastern nations] for oil
 

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I know most american soldiers are against all the wars. 70% of the army voted for Ron Paul to begin with. Old news.
What's ironic is how usa changed the 'states department of war' to 'states department of national defense' and waged more wars under that new label.

What's funny was there was no Al Qaeda in Iraq to begin with when usa decided to plant boots on their soil. The threats are staged, mboy. Staged to get public approval to move american forces abroad.
Were you there do you have proof cause if it was staged those chemical weapons that eluded us would have been found instead of the leaders looking like compleat boneheads its not hard for a group of CIA agents to slip in some chlorine which is a very dangerous chemical or another that can cause your throat to close up and die a slow death they al qauda wasnt there at first but even then very few of the public approved only hardliners approved
 

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I wrote those down from my memory.. The 134 wars is a fact so do your homework.



Actually, as a member of NATO and the EU we are forced to comply with certain agendas. We don't have much to say on the matter. You just have to realize I'm only pointing fingers at ordinary folks that fall for the war-propaganda such as demon of the leaf. I have nothing against the general american populace, that would be ridiculous. So correcting you people is me crying?
You have no right to correct the people. You would only cause a nationwide panic.

Which is why the news is playing smart.


Same reason why you would separate Steve Jobs from rest of the people who worked for Apple.
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I wrote those down from my memory.. The 134 wars is a fact so do your homework.



Actually, as a member of NATO and the EU we are forced to comply with certain agendas. We don't have much to say on the matter. You just have to realize I'm only pointing fingers at ordinary folks that fall for the war-propaganda such as demon of the leaf. I have nothing against the general american populace, that would be ridiculous. So correcting you people is me crying?
I thought it was common knowledge that the US contributed to starting ISIS.
But still intentionally supporting them?
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I wrote those down from my memory.. The 134 wars is a fact so do your homework.



Actually, as a member of NATO and the EU we are forced to comply with certain agendas. We don't have much to say on the matter. You just have to realize I'm only pointing fingers at ordinary folks that fall for the war-propaganda such as demon of the leaf. I have nothing against the general american populace, that would be ridiculous. So correcting you people is me crying?
Nato is only an alliance to counter russian intervention mostly in a usa war they have the choice on wether or not to join iraq was a UN mission aka the UNITED NATONS
 

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Nato is only an alliance to counter russian intervention mostly in a usa war they have the choice on wether or not to join iraq was a UN mission aka the UNITED NATONS
Continuous sanctions and proposals at UN meetings cannot be ignored if they stem from the most aggressive military force on earth.
Your point is?
 

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Continuous sanctions and proposals at UN meetings cannot be ignored if they stem from the most aggressive military force on earth.
Your point is?
If the un saw usa as dangerous they would call for an army which is well within their power as a peace keeping force first through sanctions then through military intervention
 

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If the un saw usa as dangerous they would call for an army which is well within their power as a peace keeping force first through sanctions then through military intervention
UN is not eager for conflicts as is the usa and you do know the elite neocons hold positions in every European nation and usa. So dissent towards usa would be quickly suppressed and reverted.

I thought you were out? :p
 

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Common knowledge is common knowledge. I didn't watch the video but the US didn't 'create' ISIS. They knew they existed but assumed it would help their agenda in getting rid of Assad. Then they turned radical after gaining enough support. Other countries were on board and knew/know about it(They are doing the same thing currently). The reason people put the blame on the US is because it's the US and it's an obvious go-to for placing blame. Not saying they don't deserve some of the blame, but to make a huge revelation about the US knowing about ISIS for a while isn't anything new(I don't think). The bigger revelation would be exposing other countries that knew about it previously.
 

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You have no right to correct the people. You would only cause a nationwide panic.

Which is why the news is playing smart.




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A nationwide pandemic?.. right. So breaking down the propaganda and stupification of the american populace will create a pandemic? It might create a civil war, yes..but usa already prepared for that by militarizing the law enforcement police to suppress any riots.

That reminded me of a quote I saw years ago..looked it up just now:
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You don't see protesting from the West against their corrupt government; either they're afraid or ignorant of what's really happening. I wish that video would go viral and people would actually pay attention to it.
 

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The worst thing about this whole "Western support of terror" deal is, it is no secret, it is well known yet it does not get the backlash it should have take because we have internalized obedience and not taking action so much.

For example less than a week ago in G20 summit Putin blatantly said "there are many countries supporting ISIS and some of them are here" and not much to your surprise World's top 20 economic powers have high number of Western/NATO countries.

(I did not make a thread on it because it would flood with Putin wankery). But there was no outrage it was just the most important detail of summit , not even effecting what will happen.

West does not support ISIS for the sake of being evil obviously. War is money and they have been feeding off from the chaos in Middle East for about 100 years. They have put dictoators in charge and when they are done and want to interfere they overthrow them by seemingly innocent and moral methods; i mean the Arab Spring; the uprising of citizens against decades of tyranny. Can it be impure? No. Now who even remembers Arab spring and what even hapened to those countries? Surely those people are not the ones who "supported the cause" by liking pictures of Tehran square demonstrations; now probably forgot whether the place was in Tunisia, Libya or Egypt.

It is no wonder that Israel's main source of oil is Iraqi Kurdistan. You know, the ultimately good freedom fighters' land; fighting with ISIS and trading with #1 terrorist state. Like the Tehran square you can see pictures and BBC articles of YPG/YPJ/PKK fighters getting shared in facebook, tumblr etc. but who are they other than being ultimately good guys (also number of female fighters to satisfy Western grrrl power lovers) fighting ISIS. Why there is a "Kurdish fighters" label when there are numerous other ethnicities mainly Ezidis, Turkmens, Assyrians, Arabs there? Are they not present in this totally justifiable side of war, when a huge part of this Kurdish independence is getting rid of ethnic oppression and erasure. Somehow other ethnic groups get erased.

Nothing to question. Just the savage Middle East and Western auidience for a staged war fought by people masks forces on to them.
truth has been spoken.

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You don't see protesting from the West against their corrupt government; either they're afraid or ignorant of what's really happening. I wish that video would go viral and people would actually pay attention to it.
Talking shit about our government is like a national sport in the west so don't know what dafuq you talking about
 
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