[Question] Is Zoro the 2nd in command of the SHs?

[loj]

Yea Oda made it just for zoro. Just like robin willing to be taken away to protect the crew. Nami told luffy robin did it for them she is gonna die for them but of course if zoro is gonna die for the crew it is greater although it's the same action. Sanji leaves to protect the crew knowing that he will die if he turns down the will of both his father and big mom. Peckoms Even says it I don't know if he (sanji) will be able to keep his life in front of momma and the dreaded vinsmoke family but yet again if zoro is willing to die for his crew it makes it better although it is the same action dying for the crew.

Robin was stupid to do what she did,SH's nearly died 'cause she acted like a baby.If she said that to Luffy ages ago there would't be the drama what happened.

 

[Dannie]

If someone has the scan of the Navy/WG calling Zoro VC or first mate, that would be great. I can't find it, but I know it's there. Hope I'm not thinking of something else.

 

[RJ22BIG]

Robin was stupid to do what she did,SH's nearly died 'cause she acted like a baby.If she said that to Luffy ages ago there would't be the drama what happened.

Wow so robin choosing to die for her crew instead of the world government coming after the straw hats as a whole is stupid but zoro choosing to die for the crew's sake is wise smh. If robins is stupid then so is zoro's it's the same action choosing to die for the sake of others don't down grade and disrespect what she did but don't do the same for zoro my friend whether you recognize this or not that my friend is what being biased is smh.

 

[loj]

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low-key Zoro again doing his work

Wow so robin choosing to die for her crew instead of the world government coming after the straw hats as a whole is stupid but zoro choosing to die for the crew's sake is wise smh. If robins is stupid then so is zoro's it's the same action choosing to die for the sake of others don't down grade and disrespect what she did but don't do the same for zoro my friend whether you recognize this or not that my friend is what being biased is smh.

But it's different...she wanted to die...then she changed her opinion XD Zoro wanted and did take the pain...different stuff again...if Robin died...then we are talking.

 

[Dannie]

Lol, calling everyone biased because they don't agree with you.

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[Punk Hazard]

But you only said Usopp speech :| that's not a sacrifice as much as I know...

I didn't say it was a sacrifice.

Sacrifices from the crew come in the form of choosing death from Kuma, choosing to go against the WG, choosing to go against the wishes of a Yonko, and choosing to risk their lives every single day by sailing with him.

that's literally nothing just a motivational speech :| what did Usopp eat motivation-motivation no mi so that made Luffy stand up? Bruh...

It's the motivation Luffy needed to stand up. How do you know Luffy would have been able to do so if Usopp didn't give the speech? You don't.

You lietarlly said Zoro's moment isn't unique and nothing special where it really is special :|

I said what it represents isn't unique. I went on to prove this by showing other moments in the manga that represents the same thing.

22 pages of laughs about what you are writing,the popularity one tops it all

Do you even understand what I was saying when I said the popularity thing?

And who cares if Sanji's moment was equal to Zoro's? That's like 1 versus his like what.. 4?? lmao

Zoro doesn't have four of those moments. The only two he actually has are the Usopp argument, which is equal to Luffy being kicked through the bookcase by Sanji, and yelling at Luffy to serious up at Punk Hazard, which is equal with Sanji telling Luffy not to goof off in Dressrosa because his face was in the paper.

Notice when Zoro tried it again on Zou, Luffy ignored it completely and went after Sanji anyways.

Lol, calling everyone biased because they don't agree with you.

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This can apply to your butt buddy calling everyone who disagrees with him a Zoro hater.

 

[Dannie]

Zoro doesn't have four of those moments. The only two he actually has are the Usopp argument, which is equal to Luffy being kicked through the bookcase by Sanji, and yelling at Luffy to serious up at Punk Hazard, which is equal with Sanji telling Luffy not to goof off in Dressrosa because his face was in the paper.

Can I have the scan of that bold. I remember what you're talking about but I want to see if it was on the same seriousness as Zoro's.

 

[RJ22BIG]

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low-key Zoro again doing his work


But it's different...she wanted to die...then she changed her opinion XD Zoro wanted and did take the pain...different stuff again...if Robin died...then we are talking.

Yoo you literally either clues or just believe the nonsense that comes out of your head. Robin tried to die because she didn't want to place the burden of the world government of the SH crew then luffy tracks her down shoots the WG flag showing he will gladly go to war with them for the sake of robin defeating the purpose of her dying. She would have died if the straw hats stayed in water 7. That like if luffy woke up during the kuma situation he would've never let zoro be in a position to lose his life for him it's sad how you try and twist things when it's the same thing smfh

 

[loj]

Yoo you literally either clues or just believe the nonsense that comes out of your head. Robin tried to die because she didn't want to place the burden of the world government of the SH crew then luffy tracks her down shoots the WG flag showing he will gladly go to war with them for the sake of robin defeating the purpose of her dying. She would have died if the straw hats stayed in water 7. That like if luffy woke up during the kuma situation he would've never let zoro be in a position to lose his life for him it's sad how you try and twist things when it's the same thing smfh

LOL Robin wanted to die yes but SHE CHANGED HER OPINION FFS what happened then? Buster call and all SH's in danger are you nuts? How's that the same like Zoro's moment from Thriller Bark :|

 

[loj]

Riker just explain me why Oda made 2 characters say that Zoro is the first mate of the SH's.Only Zoro was ever connected to that title so tell me what do you have to say about that?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Can I have the scan of that bold. I remember what you're talking about but I want to see if it was on the same seriousness as Zoro's.

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Same amount of panels.

Btw, I already know you're gonna point out the "DOOM" sound effect and the size of the panels, both of which don't mean anything. For one, Oda uses that sound effect very liberally(someone pointed out in SBS that he uses it several times more than the typical mangaka, and Oda said it was because he just liked it). Secondly, look at this:

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He uses a huge panel just to have Smoker say they're gonna steal a tanker, which just shows that the size of the panel doesn't directly correlate to intensity and importance.

Riker just explain me why Oda made 2 characters say that Zoro is the first mate of the SH's.Only Zoro was ever connected to that title so tell me what do you have to say about that?

One of the characters has no bearing on the crew and has never met them. The other said that HE PERSONALLY considers Zoro the first mate, indicating that he was speaking FOR HIMSELF ONLY.

Luffy has connected Usopp to the title of First Mate more times than he has Zoro.

 

[loj]

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Same amount of panels.



One of the characters has no bearing on the crew and has never met them. The other said that HE PERSONALLY considers Zoro the first mate, indicating that he was speaking FOR HIMSELF ONLY.

Luffy has connected Usopp to the title of First Mate more times than he has Zoro.

Doesn't change the fact that Oda made these characters say that.Why Zoro? Why not your beloved Sanji? Why is it Zoro?

 

[Dannie]

Lol, fine.

 

[RJ22BIG]

LOL Robin wanted to die yes but SHE CHANGED HER OPINION FFS what happened then? Buster call and all SH's in danger are you nuts? How's that the same like Zoro's moment from Thriller Bark :|

Wow if SH crew stays in water 7 robin dies absolutely resulting in no fight and no buster call. Zoro did something that no straw hats no about accept sanji and robin if all of the straw hats were awake they would never allow zoro die for luffy or any of them by sanji intervening shows this if luffy at the time had any clue of what was going you really believe he would let zoro be in a position to lose his life when he wouldn't let robin or sanji do so if you actually no the story of one piece you know luffy would never sacrifice or allow his friends to sacrifice themselves for him

 

[Skull Knight]

One of the characters has no bearing on the crew and has never met them. The other said that HE PERSONALLY considers Zoro the first mate, indicating that he was speaking FOR HIMSELF ONLY.

Urogue opinion is definately based on Newspaper reports circulated by WG in OPverse, which means OPverse as whole sees Zoro as 2nd in command.
The other guy(Barto) later travelled wit both Luffy and Zoro. He was Luffy's fanboy not Zoro fanboy so tell me why he didn't said Ussop/Robin/Franky is SH VC???

Luffy has connected Usopp to the title of First Mate more times than he has Zoro.

Luffy never said Ussop u are my Vice captain

 

[Punk Hazard]

Notice how Nami give commands to Zoro here. Not only about what they're gonna go in the factory, but telling him he needs to have an escort.

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Doesn't change the fact that Oda make these characters say that.Why Zoro? Why not your beloved Sanji? Why is it Zoro?

Because the major things Sanji does was in the shadows. That's Sanji's thing: He splits from the rest of the crew and does something that pretty much never gets reported by the World Government. It was Sanji that made the currents in Enies Lobby that caused the warships to misfire, but he did so in secret so it was never reported. Same for fooling Crocodile, same for finding Robin on the Sea Train. Because Sanji does shit in the dark, he doesn't get the same spotlight Zoro does in the OP world's media, even though the shit he does warrants the same level of respect.

 

[Skull Knight]

Notice the similarities between Zoro and Rayleigh

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[Dannie]

Luffy never said Ussop u are my Vice captain

Agreed. Usopp demanded that he be VC and Luffy said "alright fine." He barely gave it any thought.

 

[loj]

Notice how Nami give commands to Zoro here. Not only about what they're gonna go in the factory, but telling him he needs to have an escort.

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Because the major things Sanji does was in the shadows. That's Sanji's thing: He splits from the rest of the crew and does something that pretty much never gets reported by the World Government. It was Sanji that made the currents in Enies Lobby that caused the warships to misfire, but he did so in secret so it was never reported. Same for fooling Crocodile, same for finding Robin on the Sea Train. Because Sanji does shit in the dark, he doesn't get the same spotlight Zoro does in the OP world's media, even though the shit he does warrants the same level of respect.

So are you telling me people shouldn't listen to each other in SH's with that panel?

Alright he does things in shadows,won't deny it.Still doesn't do the things like Zoro did xd

 

[Punk Hazard]

Urogue opinion is definately based on Newspaper reports circulated by WG in OPverse, which means OPverse as whole sees Zoro as 2nd in command.

Those newspapers also report that Chopper is a pet. These same WG reports led people to believe Luffy is a monster that ranges from 8-20 feet tall. Despite how public his image is, people still thought Demaro Black was actually Luffy. WG perception isn't reputable.

The other guy(Barto) later travelled wit both Luffy and Zoro. He was Luffy's fanboy not Zoro fanboy so tell me why he didn't said Ussop/Robin/Franky is SH VC???

Barto is a fanboy of the entire crew. He fanboyed over Zoro twice, including when Zoro was cutting Pica's statue, he fanboyed over Robin, and calls everyone in the crew "Senpai," just like Luffy.

Luffy never said Ussop u are my Vice captain

Usopp asked to take over if something happened to Luffy, Luffy said sure. That's the closest Luffy has come to naming a first mate.