Lmao Oda it trying to make zoro vice captain huh that's really funny if this was the case zoro would just be vice captain. It would be just as simple as Oda making buggy a war lord it's that easy you didn't hear any of the prisoners following buggy say you should be a war lord captain buggy or I think captain buggy is a war lord no Oda simply just made him a war lord with the title in all its fact. And zoro's role on the crew is fighter it's been said multiple times smh
[Question] Is Zoro the 2nd in command of the SHs?
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Exactly. Why would, at this point, Oda keep on "hinting" Zoro as the vice captain if it's so obvious?
In all honesty you guys often raise Zoro's moment higher then they actually are his moment on water 7 was done after sanji's moment on water 7 a similar situation where they stood up against their captain to voice their opinions on the matter of usopp but in the your eyes zoro's moment was bigger how I have no idea because their messages were equally as important and carried just as much weight. Sanji telling luffy not to be so reckless in anger and zoro telling luffy not to be so careless and carefree in regards to usopp.
In thriller bark zoro offered his life for the life of luffy. Sanji entered to take his place because Sanji always plays the role of protector but zoro would never allow someone to die for him his pride would never allow that so he he hits an off guard Sanji and knocks him out. Then you guys said Oda chose zoro to take luffy's pain but that wasn't what kuma was stating from the start he wanted a life for a life zoro was suppose to die. So would Oda killing zoro for luffy make him a vice captain also. In dragon ball z vegetal knocked Goku out in the same matter to go fight majin buu does that mean vegeta was strong then Goku no it was to show vegeta's character development to show he would die for his loved ones just as zoro did that was the point of that thriller park scene nothing more. Stop adding in hidden means to Oda's work Oda is such a great writer that people always think their is a deeper mean and try to dissect everything he does sometimes he work is as it is hidden in broad daylight no need to look deeper.
In thriller bark zoro offered his life for the life of luffy. Sanji entered to take his place because Sanji always plays the role of protector but zoro would never allow someone to die for him his pride would never allow that so he he hits an off guard Sanji and knocks him out. Then you guys said Oda chose zoro to take luffy's pain but that wasn't what kuma was stating from the start he wanted a life for a life zoro was suppose to die. So would Oda killing zoro for luffy make him a vice captain also. In dragon ball z vegetal knocked Goku out in the same matter to go fight majin buu does that mean vegeta was strong then Goku no it was to show vegeta's character development to show he would die for his loved ones just as zoro did that was the point of that thriller park scene nothing more. Stop adding in hidden means to Oda's work Oda is such a great writer that people always think their is a deeper mean and try to dissect everything he does sometimes he work is as it is hidden in broad daylight no need to look deeper.
TBH, why are you quoting me now? If you can't read then it's not my problem as everything you said has absolutely nothing to do with my post, and I love how you also failed to counter my post on page 5 with the hints of Zoro leading Luffy and telling him what to do and what actions to make.
You want to talk about bias when you have been on the opposing side of Zoro this entire thread. Niquh please, we all know what game you are trying to play, so don't come at me with that bias bullshit as if you are any better.
'cause Oda need people like you to discuss about One Piece since some people can't see the obvious so he is still hinting it and hinting it to the point where he will say Zoro the first mate and then you will get butthurt and say I knew it all along but in reality you don't know what you are reading in One Piece and you have some hate towards Zoro to not even notice the obvious yet you see all the shit Usopp and Sanji did which is not even the same what Zoro did
but well shit Zoro is more popular to Luffy how it seems :/
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This isn't new...the moment is a great moment that highlights Zoro's loyalty to Luffy, but it's not special either. Great character moment, sure, but it's not unique. The situation was, but what it represents isn't. The Strawhats put their lives at risk for Luffy every single day. How is Zoro doing that with Luffy's pain unique or different from any other time they put their lives at risk to continue following Luffy?HAHAHAHAoidugfa0h[0pwahgw you are making me laugh so much now you are even taking Zoro's moment from Thriller Bark
How is Zoro taking Luffy's pain any different from Sanji rebelling against the entire army of Germa 66 and the Yonko Big Mom for the sake of the Strawhat's adventure? How is it different than the other Strawhats sticking with Luffy after he declared war on the WG? How is it different than the citizens of Thriller Bark choosing to die over giving Luffy's head to Kuma?
Oda isn't writing mediocre moments for characters and then picking a select few to give great moments too. He's writing one story, he's writing great moment after great moment after great moment for character after character after character, and this includes those that are directly related to the Strawhats. Zoro isn't special, his great moment is just one of countless great moments.
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Now this is the proof you have a Zoro hate problem in your head...Bruh...if this isnt't special then fuk me.You either troll or just hate Zoro so much to the point that you just make a blind eye when Zoro has his moments...
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It's not. The situation is unique in that no other character has taken Luffy's pain, but it's not unique in that it's a moment of a character showing great loyalty to Luffy. Details are unique, but what it represents happens over and over throughout the series.
I never said it wasn't a Zoro moment, it was. Other characters, including the Strawhats, have similar moments that represent the same thing as Zoro's did.
Lmao so zoro lead luffy in that situation so did Sanji in the situation before that in regard to usopp your making zoro's scene seem so special. This quote happened how long ago and now your bring it up smh. How does me being on the opposing side of something make me biased that is utterly stupid. If I was to ignore fact to make my case I would be biased so bu saying the straw hats have no vice captain I am bias your sad smh. Can't be biased when my 2 most favorite characters are zoro and sanj together because of their rilvary. It's not bias to not believe what you believe if you said that zoro could solo the verse I would be bias to say differently right don't use words you don't understand.
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It's useless debating with you since you can't seem to understand basic English. Do you even understand what my arguments are saying, or do you just reply on the fly?
I never said it wasn't a great Zoro moment(I explicitly said that it was). I said that other characters have had moments that are equally great, and convey the exact same thing that Zoro's did.
Zoro's face being in the cartoon text boxes is the SOLE ONLY thing I attributed to his popularity. Stop trying to take my comments out of context.
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Luffy didn't say that exactly:
Usopp kept demanding to be the captain and finally said if Luffy screws up he would take over as the captain. Luffy said ok. As it happened - Usopp was the one who screwed up- challenged and lost the fight for the ship as well as the ship. So for me the seriousness of the offer is a non issue at this point. He doesn't even have mind set of a captain that's needed at this level.
Yeah Idk which moments from other characters are as good as Zoro's "sacrifice" for his captain.Not only he "sacrificed" himself he even made sure for Sanji to not make anything stupid knocking him out like a true leader would do.That's again one of the momets where Zoro showed his worth of a first mate.Same how Luffy trained after timeskip to be able to protect his mates,same Zoro made sure to not see Sanji injured.
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None of them do. Even Luffy himself doesn't have the best judgement that's needed for a captain, and gets by because of his crew's intuition and a pseudo-democracy on board.
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1. The Strawhats endanger their lives every single day by sailing with Luffy. They made the sacrifice of safety from the WG to sail with Luffy and help him with his dream.
2. Usopp motivating Luffy to stand back up against Luffy(there is ZERO way of knowing that Luffy would have stood back up without that speech, so it counts)
3. The citizens of Thriller Bark choosing death over handing over Luffy's head
4. The Strawhats standing by Luffy as he declared war on the World Government
5. Sanji standing up to Big Mom and Germa 66 in order to dedicate himself to the crew
6. Whitebeard announcing for all of his men to support Luffy at full force
7. The remnants of the Whitebeard Pirates protecting Luffy from Akainu's onslaught, even though by that point their captain and Ace had died, meaning they had no reason to stick around Marineford and to keep fighting. They chose to keep fighting in order to save Luffy.
8. Bentham choosing to sacrifice his life against Magellan in Impel Down by transforming into him, sneaking into the control room, and opening the gates so Luffy and his band of goons could make it to Marineford.
9. Ace sacrificing his life by throwing himself in front of Akainu's magma punch.
10. Sabo attacking and dueling with Burgess, getting angry at the thought of him going after his little brother
Sound like when Sanji knocked Luffy through a table to make sure he didn't say something stupid, followed by yelling for Luffy to get over himself and act like a real captain has too by not letting his emotions make him say careless things.
ALL of them trained for this exact same reason. Just a few chapters ago Sanji said he trained like a madman for the sake of protecting his friends. Who was it that protected the mates from Doflamingo again?
I enjoy debating, so nah.
Are you really this ****ing clueless? How many subtle hints and phrases from the manga stated by different people must Oda reveal for you to get the goddamn message? Bartolomeo, Kuma, Urouge, and the Navy have all foreshadowed the possibility of Zoro being the future VC of the Strawhats. Why are you talking like this will never happen, or is it the fact that you Zoro deniers DON'T want it to happen?
How is it funny when Zoro has been the only one to receive that title from many different people? Oh wait, you don't like the idea of Zoro receiving praise from different people so you think it's a joke that Zoro might be VC.
I doubt you even read the manga if you can't see this obvious foreshadowing from Oda.
But he isn't because Oda obviously doesn't want that to happen yet, but you seem to be quite oblivious to it being shown multiple times that Zoro is VC status.
LMAO, and who is Buggy supposed to be?
You do realize that everytime Luffy finds a new crewmate, he always has a role placed for them.
What did you want to happen with Zoro? "Hey Zoro, join my crew and be my Vice-captain"
The fact that Zoro was the first to join and been given comments all over the world by different people assumed to be VC proves that Oda doesn't have to directly state that Zoro is VC.
I seriously can't wait in the near future when Oda finally reveals that Zoro is VC of the Strawhats. Most of you are gonna look real stupid.
You keep bringing up what Sanji did as if I didn't already ****ing know this. Oh what, do you want me to praise what Sanji did because he kicked his captain and because you supposedly think it's better than what Zoro did? Yeah, you would.
The moment you realize this has nothing to do with Sanji nor am I discounting what Sanji did is the moment when you have permission to not look like a retard.
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When did Kuma and the World Government foreshadow that Zoro would be becoming first mate?
How does it make ANY sense that Oda would make it obvious that Zoro is vice captain RIGHT NOW, but he doesn't want to reveal it yet? Wouldn't he already be revealing it WITH these "obvious" depictions of Zoro being vice captain? You're saying Oda is trying to hide Zoro being vice captain while also making it obvious, for why again? How does it serve the story for Oda to be prolonging the status of Vice Captain?
How does it make ANY sense that Oda would make it obvious that Zoro is vice captain RIGHT NOW, but he doesn't want to reveal it yet? Wouldn't he already be revealing it WITH these "obvious" depictions of Zoro being vice captain? You're saying Oda is trying to hide Zoro being vice captain while also making it obvious, for why again? How does it serve the story for Oda to be prolonging the status of Vice Captain?
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