[Question] Is Zoro the 2nd in command of the SHs?

[Punk Hazard]

No point in arguing with clowns who think I'm biased towards Zoro when there have been given SEVERAL statements in the manga depicting otherwise.

There are statements in the manga that depict that you aren't biased towards Zoro? Which character are you?

 

[Dannie]

There are statements in the manga that depict that you aren't biased towards Zoro? Which character are you?

I'm talking about the fact that Zoro has been assumed as VC by many people, but apparently that doesn't mean much to you guys and we're supposedly biased and riding on Zoro's popularity because we can appreciate hints in the manga.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'm talking about the fact that Zoro has been assumed as VC by many people

Two isn't many.

but apparently that doesn't mean much to you guys and we're supposedly biased and riding on Zoro's popularity because we can appreciate hints in the manga.

In a world of millions, 2 isn't much, so no.

 

[Dannie]

Two isn't many.


In a world of millions, 2 isn't much, so no.

They weren't just random fodders so their judgment is nothing to sniff at.

Also, much better than the other crew members.

 

[Punk Hazard]

They weren't just random fodders so their judgment is nothing to sniff at.

Also, much better than the other crew members.

One is a fanboy who said that outlook was his and his alone, and the other knows nothing about the crew.

The captain gave that disposition to Usopp, not Zoro.

 

[RJ22BIG]

They weren't just random fodders so their judgment is nothing to sniff at.

Also, much better than the other crew members.

Listen you can believe what you want and I'll believe what want oda hasn't made it fact that zoro is second in command or vice captain nor has he made it fact that zoro and sanji are equal so it's purely speculation and opinionated when it hasn't been proven fact so when a discussion happens your gonna argue your point and I'm gonna argue my points no one is right or wrong because there's no fact it's just voicing opinions nobody had a problem with anybody going against others except you. A broad topic like this would lead to debate so why are you mad that I'm debating smh you don't have to acknowledge my points S**t you don't even have to read my post when you see my name you can just skip it do you I'll do me lets get back to the topic that's what I care about.

 

[Dannie]

One is a fanboy who said that outlook was his and his alone, and the other knows nothing about the crew.

The captain gave that disposition to Usopp, not Zoro.

We've already been through this, no need to recycle it.

Usopp's position as VC has practically been destroyed.

 

[Punk Hazard]

We've already been through this, no need to recycle it.

Usopp's position as VC has practically been destroyed.

No more arguments? I know it's hard to argue against a character saying "I'm the one who thinks this," but at least try.

Then so has Zoro's for threatening Luffy's life.

 

[Dannie]

No more arguments? I know it's hard to argue against a character saying "I'm the one who thinks this," but at least try.

Then so has Zoro's for threatening Luffy's life.

There are no more arguments to say since everything has already been said.

And like stated earlier, the Zoro thing and with Usopp are two entirely different situations lol. Not sure why you keep mentioning that.

Zoro never left the crew, so why is this comparable with a member who picked a fight with his captain, talked a bunch of shit and actually left the crew.

The way I see it is simple. Once Usopp left the crew there was no more "Vice-Captain" so to say that Usopp is Vice-Captain, where is the proof that Luffy gave back Usopp his "Vice-captain" status?

 

[Punk Hazard]

There are no more arguments to say since everything has already been said.

And like stated earlier, the Zoro thing and with Usopp are two entirely different situations lol. Not sure why you keep mentioning that.

Zoro never left the crew, so why is this comparable with a member who picked a fight with his captain, talked a bunch of shit and actually left the crew.

The way I see it is simple. Once Usopp left the crew there was no more "Vice-Captain" so to say that Usopp is Vice-Captain, where is the proof that Luffy gave back Usopp his "Vice-captain" status?

You still haven't explained how Barto saying the statement applies only to him means it applies to the entire world, so there's some left to be said.

Both are Strawhats challenging Luffy's authority.

I said before that Zoro's disrespect didn't go as far as Usopp's. That doesn't mean it's not still disrespect. Murdering 2 people instead of as many as Hitler is still murder.

Still stands that Usopp is the only one who's come close to being confirmed as the vice captain.

 

[Dannie]

You still haven't explained how Barto saying the statement applies only to him means it applies to the entire world, so there's some left to be said.

It doesn't, so I guess you caught me and my incorrect usage of words. I meant some.

Both are Strawhats challenging Luffy's authority.

I said before that Zoro's disrespect didn't go as far as Usopp's. That doesn't mean it's not still disrespect. Murdering 2 people instead of as many as Hitler is still murder.

Zoro's disrespect towards Luffy's authority didn't effect Luffy like Usopp did. Who cares if they both disrespected Luffy when one of them completely overrides the other. No one even mentions or cares about what Zoro did, but every single SH remembers what Usopp did to the crew.

Still stands that Usopp is the only one who's come close to being confirmed as the vice captain.

But never hyped by outsiders like Zoro, and Luffy never acknowledges Usopp as VC.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It doesn't, so I guess you caught me and my incorrect usage of words. I meant some.

2 isn't some either.

Zoro's disrespect towards Luffy's authority didn't effect Luffy like Usopp did. Who cares if they both disrespected Luffy when one of them completely overrides the other. No one even mentions or cares about what Zoro did, but every single SH remembers what Usopp did to the crew.

Doesn't matter. It didn't end up as big as a deal as Usopp's did, but there's supposed to be ZERO tolerance towards disrespect to Luffy's authority. Meaning no matter how little it is, even the most miniscule amount is wrong. Period.

But never hyped by outsiders like Zoro, and Luffy never acknowledges Usopp as VC.

Luffy's opinion is more important than outsiders', and his on the concept of vice captain never included Zoro.

 

[Dannie]

Doesn't matter. It didn't end up as big as a deal as Usopp's did, but there's supposed to be ZERO tolerance towards disrespect to Luffy's authority. Meaning no matter how little it is, even the most miniscule amount is wrong. Period.

Says who?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Says who?

That was Zoro's biggest beef with the Usopp situation. The crew then agreed that that should be the case after Luffy took it into consideration and Sanji said he's right. That's what makes Zoro a hypocrite, as he's the one that suggests it, and then goes against it on Zou.

 

[Dannie]

That was Zoro's biggest beef with the Usopp situation. The crew then agreed that that should be the case after Luffy took it into consideration and Sanji said he's right. That's what makes Zoro a hypocrite, as he's the one that suggests it, and then goes against it on Zou.

Nevermind, this is what Lojz was arguing about.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Nevermind, this is what Lojz was arguing about.

You're damn right never mind.

 

[RJ22BIG]

Nevermind, this is what Lojz was arguing about.

That's funny the initial post tried to call me out on because I agreed that this made zoro a hypocrite you labeled me dkriding but now you're in agreement. So you're telling me you didn't even know what the argument was even about but because this Guy had a point and was right I was wrong for agreeing smh. Pointless, note I'm not gonna do something so stupid as to attack you for ending up with same conclusion I reached because that would make me look like an idiot. Smfh

 

[Avani 🥈]

Still stands that Usopp is the only one who's come close to being confirmed as the vice captain.

That wasn't the Thousand Sunny, but Going Merry. The condition of the confirmation was " if Luffy screwed up". Usopp already played that card and demanded and ultimately became captain of "his ship"- and it sank and along with that "confirmation". He begged to be on board on this one and his role now is limited to being a sniper of the crew. And Zoro made sure he knows that.^^

 

[Punk Hazard]

That wasn't the Thousand Sunny, but Going Merry. The condition of the confirmation was " if Luffy screwed up". Usopp already played that card and demanded and ultimately became captain of "his ship"- and it sank and along with that "confirmation". He begged to be on board on this one and his role now is limited to being a sniper of the crew. And Zoro made sure he knows that.^^

Oh yeah, I remember when Luffy reconfirmed each and every member's role when they traded ships because even when the crew stays the same, that becomes necessary /s

 

[Avani 🥈]

Oh yeah, I remember when Luffy reconfirmed each and every member's role when they traded ships because even when the crew stays the same, that becomes necessary /s

Crew didn't stay the same. (Frankie is responsible for the ship maintenance now not Usopp. )

One of the resigned and didn't leave on good terms. Another one was added who took over many of the duties regarding the ship, maintenance as well as a fighter. And although the one who left, came back, this time around he was not offered the place freely like before but begged the job, and was forced to drop presumptuous airs.