Is tobirama not as powerfull as we think?

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lol -.- i understand you like tobirama, but dont create situtions that didnt occur.

the manga made it seem like they walked in there [undetected,konoha ] and beat his ass, almosted killed him, but reinforcement came and the bros flee

thats what the manga says basically.

i didnt say that tobirama gave them a run for there money, or even wounded them, because they were able to escape.

And go back to there village to boast
I simply creating possible scenarios and in no way claiming them to be true. You basically did the same exact thing right then.

Given this , the manga doesn't indicate that at all. We know they were in the Cloud Village because they were trying to stage a coup.
 
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ive noticed something...

Tobirama was whooped on by the g&s bros. and almosted killed according to the manga.

so what does this say about him? yes he beat kid izuna.

but how can be stronger than sasuke or itachi or any of the uchiha's, when he got his ass kicked by the bros.

who lost to a bunch of boderline fodder jounin


my def of fodder- not being able to beat a hokage.

The only logical reason we can derive for the loss of tobirama against the brothers is that they might have used the sages tools inorder cause a great deal of damage to him without actually sealing or capturing him. Then we all know about the huge chakra reserves of the brothers and their ability to partially transform into biju mode . Maybe two of such ninja were too much for the tobirama . But all in all a little explanation of tobirama's abilities will provide us with a better view
 

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so what does this say about him? yes he beat kid izuna.

but how can be stronger than sasuke or itachi or any of the uchiha's, when he got his ass kicked by the bros.

who lost to a bunch of boderline fodder jounin
obviously kin and gin would kill izuna.
kin and gin were sealed by their own legendary weapons. nothing else would have affected them. even raikage was scared to fight them

20 High-skilled (2 with 9tails chakra)
wrong. the bros werent there

You've not even considered that Kin and Gin could have been beaten up pretty badly as well.
if that were so then raikage wouldnt have feared them
Darui solod the gold and silver bros so its mean Darui owns tobirama
darui was almost sealed but his word changed. and no he didnt solo. he sealed ginkaku only because he knew how the weapons worked and only sealed kinkaku because of ALOT of backup and another sealing pot

Kin/gin bros cheap shotted him
kin gin bros won fair and square. no such thing as ambushing a sensor

they ambushed him and he didnt know about anything but also dont make it seem like those brothers are week they are easily s-class ninja's
thats just tough luck. he lost and they did not. '

Durai killed them and tobirama couldn't
darui sealed ginkaku withn his own weapon. hardly killing him, and kinkaku faced an entire division and required amber pot to stop him. darui has nothing to hurt a kyuubi with. darui had intel and tobirama didnt

yuh dont have to agree but still g&S lost to chunnin and like 2 jounin.
nope. as i said, they needed their own legendary weapons to stop them, and combine that with a bit of luck and the fact darui and kitsuchi are not regular jounin but low kage level

No, Ginkaku and Kinkaku were defeated by Darui
no they werent. darui got intel from his comrades, which enabled him to touch ginkaku with the rope and curse his soul. then an entire division arrived and distracted kinkaku while mabui teleported the amber pot to them. its only because of ino's ability they won at all.

Consider that Tobirama had no prior knowledge to Gin and Kin's Kyuubi
how the fuk do you know?

did he have any knowledge about their use of The Sage's weapons.
again how do you know?

Simply put, if you think Darui could defeat Senju who spent most of his life fighting the Uchiha, I don't know what's wrong with you.
fodder uchiha. only madara was considered for the hokage seat

The sheer fact that he speed blitzed a MS user is remarkable
and did izuna have it activated?

He made a jutsu that brings back the dead.. and people are calling him weak? Anyone who makes something that controls life/death, in my books, are seen as someone who is decent in strength.
we havent seen him use it or carry around the necessary prep like kabuto
 
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