Is there anyone that still thinks Minato can beat Sasuke?

[Cycoresis]

Minato defeated Raikage, Killer Bee, and Obito. All of whom Sasuke could not.

^ ^ that ends It...

 

[Minator93]

Let Sasuke first be at MS Obito's level, yup the same 14 yo kid Lol

Also Sasuke fans just stop the wank or I'll be forced to make an in-depth thread as to why Alive Minato SHITS on Current Sasuke and it won't be pretty for you guys U_U

 

[slimreaper]

For those saying hebi (CM) Sasuke can take Minato, No... Taka/MS Sasuke lost to a angry (meaning clouded by rage so was risking losing his arm and leg to kill Sasuke) And Minato is stronger than A so that puts him above MS Sasuke. Sasuke couldn't keep up with A's speed, Minato is even faster. As for EMS Sasuke, Minato stood up to Obito who he thought was Madara, Oonoki almost crapped his pants when he heard Madara was alive in Kage summit. Minato isn't a dumb person so he had confidents in his abilities. People are down playing Minato from what we've seen so far, Minato has no knowledge about this unlike Madara, Tobi, Obito and Hashirama and it's not about him, it's about Naruto and Sasuke. Also Minato is reflecting on his pass mistakes even thought he couldn't have been there to save Obito/Rin/Kakashi because he was fighting in the war, couldn't have been there when Kakashi killed Rin for some unknown reason, and didn't know he fought Obito.

I just don't see how Sasuke is hitting Minato when he can ftg away and/or use ftg barrier to teleport the enton/amaterasu away. For Susanoo, it's chakra just like Kurama. What's to stop Minato from using the 4 triagram seal to seal Susanoo like he sealed Kurama? Considering Minato didn't have to touch Kurama to use 4 triagram seal, but used it from where he was (on Kurama's nail which went thru him), he can use the seal at a save distance. Yes this is a theory and not confirmed but that's what the seal does, seal chakra.

If Sasuke is marked, Minato and his clones can attack 1 of Minato's clone and switch the clone for Sasuke like Minato did with Tobirama to Obito. Minato was going to do it with his clones but Tobirama said he'll do it with him. The fact that Minato can use shadow clones and Sasuke can't keep up with his speed makes it hard for Sasuke to attack him because he can have a clone behind Sasuke too

just gonna comment on sasuke vs A

sasuke would have won that fight.

the only reason the raikage got through this amaterasu is because it isn't pointed

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these points would have served to cut and pierce the raikage, not only critically injuring him but slowing his momentum as well. That attack would have never landed and if it did it would have been slow and weak

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[Blaze Release]

"Reputed?" I suppose you meant "refuted?". If so, nope i see no reasons why he can't. This was your main argument



You're arguing about the fact Sasuke got teleported along with Susanoo, but like i've said if it really was the case, we would have seen Susanoo after the teleportation

We see Sasuke after the moment he appears and no Susanoo. Saying he made it disappear after the teleportation when there is no visible fact about it is basically the same as if i were saying it's possible Sasuke made it disappear before the teleportation as well, but it's clearly none of the cases since Sasuke had no reason to made his Susanoo vanish in that position and like i've said even after getting teleported we see a sign of surprise and wondering what happened, so he didn't even know the curse of the event to begin with

Reason why i say the only logical explanation concerning that panel is that

1- Either the Susanoo chakra vanished because the source(Sasuke) wasn't there anymore(because of the teleportation)
2- Or it's the teleportation itself that made Susanoo vanished by entiring the vacuum leading from one position to another

Nicely done. A bit of bite, here and there keeps the blood flowing. Updated my quote, though not in time it seems.

I believe susano being it its fragile state after obito smashed it and minato teleported both is what caused susano to disappear when sasuke reappeared, who knows. Perhaps kishi didn't think much of it, or sasuke did deactivate it. What we do see however is that, after naruto grabbed onto sasuke's trousers and not even susano, both him and susano vanished. If after naruto holding onto sasuke's trousers and he was to reappear at the different location with susanoo at the same spot it was in before the hiriashin then yes, you can say he split the two.


Regardless of all this, it is still near impossible. As we all know minato has to either be in direct contact to teleport something or he has to form a medium. The medium so far has been naruto's chakra arm or naruto. When he was alive, gamabunta (teleporting the fox). In all the cases where even using a medium, this meduim has to entertain some form of link usually contact with what he wants to teleport. So regardless of direct contact with himself or through a medium sasuke coating his susano with amaterasu makes this move near impossible as any thing in contact with an amaterasu molded susano is set ablaze, minato himself or a medium

Secondly, susano users can manifest any part of susano to grow extra limbs to attack or defend, but can also weave handseals and attack in susanoo further making this strategy near impossible.

On the surface, you might say minato can teleport sasuke out of susano or any other susano user, but when you dig into it more, it isn't as simple as you make it especially sasuke being the most difficult to use this strategy agains't because of his enton.

From away it appears fans have acknowledged that minato's flimsy attacks isn't doing any form of damage to any stage of susano therefore brining to the table vague strategies when looked into it in more detail isn't as simple as they make it sound.

Finally Sasuke has been taking note of hiraishin and i would think has now grasped the concept of minato's bread and butter jutsu. Minato however has limited knowledge on sasuke's

Aww man blaze dont let this nigga bogard clown you like that!

I see nothing wrong here, we can all turn on the charm. Besides i'd let you continue your rivalry with bogard alone, or you losing and you need help . Seriously though the current power levels, alive minato cannot compete and that is why he has been blessed with a temporary power which is half the fox. Current sasuke is basically hebi sasuke with the strength that surpasses itachi. He has regained his composure and calmness to analyse and come up with strategies, but has now grown stronger than ever. Alive minato is yesterdays news

 

[Ahmed1993]

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FTG user can decide that ,U can clearly Observe Obito being in contact with Naruto as well as Sasuke but Minato didn't teleported Obito along with them..

Susanoo can be seperated from it's user : Manga fact.....

Their attack was connected with Obito , but Naruto and Sasuke weren't connected with their combined attack.
Sasuke's Enton and Naruto's FRS don't touch the hand of the user , it float slightly above it.

So no you're wrong.

 

[Ahmed1993]

Actually, we know that Susanoo isn't

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and knowing that kinda supports the argument of 'Minato being able to FTG Susanoo away'.

No , Susanoo was held down but Gaara's sand here.

 

[Gold Lightning]

BM Minato of course.

Base Minato I don't see Minato inflicting much damage but I don't see sasuke touching Minato either. I think this is a case of whoever has best strategy and who runs out of chakra first. I also think Minato's shadow clones would play a huge factor, while Sasukes blaze release is another huge factor.

Could go either way, whoever is the most reckless loses.

 

[xxSAGExx]

just gonna comment on sasuke vs A

sasuke would have won that fight.

the only reason the raikage got through this amaterasu is because it isn't pointed

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Actually everything points to A winning and it doesn't matter if enton was pointed, A has the strength and protection of his Lightning armor to smash thru the enton. All that enton was, was Amaterasu with shape manipulation so it's not the same as Susanoo's enton arrow which is the combination of arrow and enton. As for A winning, the chapter starts out saying is this the end for Sasuke and his hatred. Why Say that is Sasuke could have won? It could have said something like the fight's climax, or fight interrupted if it was talking about Gaara but it was focused on Sasuke and A at the time.

Next is Gaara pretty much confirming A would have killed Sasuke. When A asked Gaara why he stopped him Gaara said A would have been "Further harmed" (his arm was already being burned at the time) instead of staying you would have been killed. Then he added that he wanted to talk to Sasuke. My question for you is, Why would gaara stop the fight of Sasuke would have won? To protect A? No. Gaara already knew A was fueled by his anger of Bee being captured so to interfere in another Kage's matter can mean problems between his village and cloud. Gaara wouldn't help A since they weren't even alleys then. He said his reason was to talk to Sasuke on Naruto's behalf which he could have done after Sasuke beat A but that wasn't the case as we saw.

A has the power to kill Sasuke in a clean shot, this is shown when Sasuke made sure to keep Susanoo up and When Naruto in KM blocked A's punch with his bare hands stated if he got hit clean then he'll be in trouble. Susanoo wouldn't protect Sasuke since A was aiming for the opening in the mid where Sasuke was so this all points to Sasuke losing.

 

[slimreaper]

Actually everything points to A winning and it doesn't matter if enton was pointed, A has the strength and protection of his Lightning armor to smash thru the enton. All that enton was, was Amaterasu with shape manipulation so it's not the same as Susanoo's enton arrow which is the combination of arrow and enton. As for A winning, the chapter starts out saying is this the end for Sasuke and his hatred. Why Say that is Sasuke could have won? It could have said something like the fight's climax, or fight interrupted if it was talking about Gaara but it was focused on Sasuke and A at the time.

Next is Gaara pretty much confirming A would have killed Sasuke. When A asked Gaara why he stopped him Gaara said A would have been "Further harmed" (his arm was already being burned at the time) instead of staying you would have been killed. Then he added that he wanted to talk to Sasuke. My question for you is, Why would gaara stop the fight of Sasuke would have won? To protect A? No. Gaara already knew A was fueled by his anger of Bee being captured so to interfere in another Kage's matter can mean problems between his village and cloud. Gaara wouldn't help A since they weren't even alleys then. He said his reason was to talk to Sasuke on Naruto's behalf which he could have done after Sasuke beat A but that wasn't the case as we saw.

A has the power to kill Sasuke in a clean shot, this is shown when Sasuke made sure to keep Susanoo up and When Naruto in KM blocked A's punch with his bare hands stated if he got hit clean then he'll be in trouble. Susanoo wouldn't protect Sasuke since A was aiming for the opening in the mid where Sasuke was so this all points to Sasuke losing.

your argument is flawed because 1. gaara had never encountered amaterasu
2. lightning armor would have been no help

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as for the bold

look how cleanly thet enton arrow cut the juubi clone

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why wouldn't it do the same to A's leg?


as far as gaara being concerned for sasuke, Cee was concerned for A

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Given the Enton reacts the same way as against the juubi clone the enton surely would have served to hinder the raikage

 

[TrollingSage]

look how cleanly thet enton arrow cut the juubi clone

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why wouldn't it do the same to A's leg?

Given the Enton reacts the same way as against the juubi clone the enton surely would have served to hinder the raikage

Dude that was enton arrow, i.e susano arrow covered with enton. Sasuke simply changed the shape of his flames against Raikage. No matter what shape it is, fire is still fire. Thus, that enton wouldnt have had any other effect than burning.
Am surprised someone that knows so little about how Sasuke's jutsus work dares call himself a Sasuke fan.

 

[closecombat22]

Minato beat sasuke in allelements of battle and FTG stop all sasuke tech and sasuke body can't keep with
A and minato blow A out of the water

 

[Thundergod123]

Minato takes this high diff....! i laugh at people mentioning susano...! because i don't know how that plays a part...! minato can teleport it away... amaterasu...? minato was hit with both naruto and sasuke's attack and teleported away unharmed...! what else genjutsu? well if minato can't break a simple sharingan genjutsu after living with uchihas and being a kage i don't know what he can do...! well a kunai is enough to kill sasuke so i won't bother mentioning anything else...!

I am second this.....

 

[slimreaper]

Dude that was enton arrow, i.e susano arrow covered with enton. Sasuke simply changed the shape of his flames against Raikage. No matter what shape it is, fire is still fire. Thus, that enton wouldnt have had any other effect than burning.
Am surprised someone that knows so little about how Sasuke's jutsus work dares call himself a Sasuke fan.

you have no evidence to suggest that was anything other than shape manipulation of enton to form an arrow. As far as we know its all enton