Is the part 1 better than part 2 in term of story-line?

[Our Lord Sasuke]

The beginning of Shippuden was very nice after Pain Inavasion/Summit Five Kage Arc become a garbage.. I might also have some problems with the World War Arc and the Climax.. anyway.

 

[Passerby]

Awwww did somebody not get what he wanted?

 

[Guntah]

Yep. Part 1 had ridiculous potential going for it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Not really. Part 1 was pretty basic action wise save for a coupe fights, and was mostly just set-up for part 2. Part 2's story was a lot more complicated(in a good way) and the action was wayyyy better. It catches a lot of flack for the way it ended, much of it deserved, but the series just started good, went strong, went weaker and ended weak.

 

[Kakooli]

teh moment nagacho revive every1 teh manga turned to $hit!

 

[Im Still Robin]

Part 1 was the best and always will be... there's no such thing as a come back in stuff like this.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Not really. Part 1 was pretty basic action wise save for a coupe fights, and was mostly just set-up for part 2. Part 2's story was a lot more complicated(in a good way) and the action was wayyyy better. It catches a lot of flack for the way it ended, much of it deserved, but the series just started good, went strong, went weaker and ended weak.

Basic in what way? Basic attacks? Or basic as in a basic shonen fight? I would argue part 2 was basic in the latter sense. Naruto went from being about fights that were lesser in scale then part 2 did the basic escalation shit until attacks were cutting the moon in half. If that over exaggeration is what you enjoy more than yes I can see you feeling those fights were way better, I enjoyed the more localized fights they had in part 1 and some of part 2 though that's why two of my favorite part 2 fights are still the Shikamaru/Hidan fight and the Chiyo&Sakura/Sasori fights. The fights after pain weren't that memorable for me.

 

[BlacLord™]

Nope.

Part 1 was good and light, but Part 2 was more engaging and detailed. People gripe about the War Arc, but after reading it through in a sitting instead of week by week, it's actually done pretty well. The pacing is really good and whilst the Kaguya Arc had finished before it started, that's down to poor communication more than anything. If his editor had better told him how much time he had left, rather than saying "wrap things up" after he'd even started the Kags Arc, then he could've worked something better.

Still, I have to hand it to Kishimoto - the final fight managed to incorporate large and small scale pretty slickly considering the chatter scenes and that it was like, 5 chapters. And the ending chapter managed to feel like closure... though things would have been better if he had decided to skip out on 700's peak into the future and extend the fight and closing scene a bit more. But this is Shounen Jump after all, gotta have a time-skip for a final chapter.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Basic in what way? Basic attacks? Or basic as in a basic shonen fight? I would argue part 2 was basic in the latter sense. Naruto went from being about fights that were lesser in scale then part 2 did the basic escalation shit until attacks were cutting the moon in half. If that over exaggeration is what you enjoy more than yes I can see you feeling those fights were way better, I enjoyed the more localized fights they had in part 1 and some of part 2 though that's why two of my favorite part 2 fights are still the Shikamaru/Hidan fight and the Chiyo&Sakura/Sasori fights. The fights after pain weren't that memorable for me.

Basic as in, it was a bunch of kids throwing metal and punches with a few Ninjutsu here and there. Part 2 had wayyyy more diverse Ninjutsu and abilities, which made for more diverse fights.

I don't see why anyone would give a shit if an EOS attack cuts the moon in half. Like, why is that alone enough to make you NOT enjoy the fight? DBZ could destroy planets, and their fights are entertaining as hell. You call it an overexaggeration, and that's fine, but I can easily say that shit like Naruto vs Kiba was just underwhelming.

If you enjoy the more localized fights, that's fine, I don't really care, but that doesn't change that I see the part 2 fights as far more enjoyable.

 

[lndra]

Part 1's Chunin Exams were iconic

 

[123fire]

Nope part 2>>>Part 1

 

[Kanino]

Part one is overrated. Part two was better story wise up to Kage summit arc. The rest is nonexistent to meh

 

[uhmusddy]

drop the combat discussion this is about story.

But Naruto pt 2 had a better story undeniably. One could say pt 1 was better written maybe.

I see it all as one story though that I loved so whatevs

 

[UnknownJin]

part 1 was good... part 2 was good... War arc was bullshit with all this DBZ shit...

 

[Monkey D Uchiha]

Not really. Part 1 was pretty basic action wise save for a coupe fights, and was mostly just set-up for part 2. Part 2's story was a lot more complicated(in a good way) and the action was wayyyy better. It catches a lot of flack for the way it ended, much of it deserved, but the series just started good, went strong, went weaker and ended weak.

STFU you DBZ tard, Part 1 is better in every way. There's nothing basic when the fight are so much complex and diverse, the shinobi battles are always comes with double standard rules and Shitpooden for the most part always tosses the logic away through the window and comes with plot convenient BS. Part 1 fight consist of real threat tension, more realistic as with every characters are almost on the same tier which made things far more unpredictable because they felt like real ninja unlike SHITPOODEN where they compete with who can make bigger explosion. Nawuto and Sasuke are the only real factors, everyone else are complete joke.
Part 2 story focused on too much toward Naruto chasing after his boy love, so much skipped arc and characters potential only to overwank the Uchiha, and everyone got side tracked cause it has to be about Narujesus, they don't get their own character development, look at Neji for example.

 

[Rokuro]

everything is good until after pain arc

 

[Cfighter]

If we're looking at this from a narrative perspective, no. I would not argue Part 1 was better than Part 2.

Part 1 was very light-hearted and focused more on world-building and character development and less about actual story progression; I am not in anyway saying that is a negative thing. Narratively, Part 1 only served to introduce us to the characters and put the pieces in motion for Part 2, which had a drastic change in focus from character development to story progression. Part 2 was not perfect by any means and by the end it unfortunately got lost in it's own vision for grandeur, however there is no denying that - from a narrative perspective - Part 2 is far superior to Part 1.

In regards to all other perspectives however, I do agree with the consensus that Part 1 is overall stronger than Part 2. As I mentioned, by the time Part 2 reached it's climax it became too grand scale for it's own good. Part 1 was consistently small-scale and was very smart to revolve it's final arc entirely on personal drama between the two characters the story had built up thus far. It added depth and meaning behind every fight in the Sasuke retrieval arc, and even with the powerups obtained in the final fight, it still retained the feeling of a personal, small-scale fight that ended on just the right note of melancholy that would lead us into the next chapter of these characters. Being a Shonen, Part 2 did begin to give battles a slight emphasis on exaggerated Jutsu, but for awhile it did still manage to retain the smaller-scale battles of intellect and wit that shined throughout Part 1. If you were to ask me, I would say Part 2 began to lose it's footing at the end of the Pain arc; had the manga simply began to tie up it's few remaining plot threads there I believe we would have gotten a much simpler, smaller-scale conclusion. But after the Pain arc, Part 2 began it's unfortunate decent into cliche, larger than life scaled power-trips while also putting Naruto and Sasuke onto a far greater pedestal than they ever needed to be on.

 

[Punk Hazard]

STFU you DBZ tard, Part 1 is better in every way. There's nothing basic when the fight are so much complex and diverse, the shinobi battles are always comes with double standard rules and Shitpooden for the most part always tosses the logic away through the window and comes with plot convenient BS.

Gimme some examples.

Part 1 fight consist of real threat tension, more realistic as with every characters are almost on the same tier which made things far more unpredictable because they felt like real ninja unlike SHITPOODEN where they compete with who can make bigger explosion.

LMAO Naruto was never about real ninjas. Stop lying to yourself. First chapter, Kurama was about to wipe out an entire village fam.

Nawuto and Sasuke are the only real factors, everyone else are complete joke.

That's for a fraction of Part 2 though.

Part 2 story focused on too much toward Naruto chasing after his boy love, so much skipped arc and characters potential only to overwank the Uchiha

So you gon act like Part 2 didn't include the Akatsuki, Kumogakure shinobi, the Hokage, Taka and introduce dozens of new characters across the villages?

 

[chopstickchakra]

Basic as in, it was a bunch of kids throwing metal and punches with a few Ninjutsu here and there. Part 2 had wayyyy more diverse Ninjutsu and abilities, which made for more diverse fights.

I don't see why anyone would give a shit if an EOS attack cuts the moon in half. Like, why is that alone enough to make you NOT enjoy the fight? DBZ could destroy planets, and their fights are entertaining as hell. You call it an overexaggeration, and that's fine, but I can easily say that shit like Naruto vs Kiba was just underwhelming.

If you enjoy the more localized fights, that's fine, I don't really care, but that doesn't change that I see the part 2 fights as far more enjoyable.

Naruto vs Kiba was underwhelming, you wouldn't be wrong about that. I wasn't trying to change your opinion I was trying to see if you meant basic as in small scale or basic as in cookie cutter. Both had their moments of good and dumb. To the point about DBZ we saw where it was going really early on, in DB we had a kid who turned into a giant Ape because of the moon, DBZ we had Spirit Bomb by, what was Vegeta the third villain? If Naruto had been busting out the TBB's or the FRS or something on that scale by the first Oro fight it'd be more along the same lines.

To those talking about the point of story, Part 1 and 2 felt like completely different stories for the wrong reasons imo. Part 1 was about effort of lineage(Naruto,Lee and to a degree Hinata) and over coming hate(Naruto and Gaara) Part 2 was about who possessed a connection to the "Gods" of the story. Completely flipped tone.

Before we knew about Naruto's family we were led to believe he was overcoming his inability to do ninja tasks through effort and dedication but turns out his natural talent and gifts, for lack of a better term, were just being honed.

Then you have the whole dumb mess about the village hating Naruto. Part 1 Naruto was a punk kid who the village hated because he housed the Fox spirit that destroyed their village and the Hokage felt bad. Later the Hokage felt bad because it was his successors son but if that was the case why not take care of him from the shadows? Naruto said he was alone and had nobody to cook for him or clean his house or anything Hiruzen could have sent ninja in when Naruto was out to hook him up. Once the relationship from part 2 is added that starts seeming pretty ****ed up.

Part 1 was about acting as a ninja Part 2 was a war.

 

[Shruikan]

The only thing I like about Part 1 is that it somehow felt grittier than Part 2 and other characters existed who could actually beat Naruto and Sasuke