[Debate] Is the Illuminati even real?

[Seventh Sama]

and there's also fema camps all around america

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seems legit Lol

 

[Olorin]

Illuminati conspirators are wanna-be elitists that forgot to finish primary school

imho the chronic paranoia of the (internet) public against the media and the government and the general uninterest in politics (other than complaining about corruption and how everybody in politics is lying and sucks) is doing more damage (and will do still more damage in the future) than the government itself (which isn't perfect but than again running a country ISN'T EASY!)

everyone knows no institution is perfect but the internet brings it to a whole another level as far as the conspiracies and paranoia about the govt are/is concerned

 

[GreyWizard93]

Its just some fancy lies to keep the world in order. Without a higher power the world could be corrupt but with a higher power and all these stories, we are kept in line and just question the truth. Its hard to explain. Trolls dont help either. They help the lies by spreading em and creating em.

 

[2big]

Anyone who believes in the Illuminati are lying, and want you to think they are different or cool

guess you know everybody. shit then i dont even need to say what i think huh?

queer...

 

[Nonomi]

Different, cute, cool, heroes bunch of people?
Just some crazed people, fodder.​

 

[Anorien16]

A secret organization that just can not stay secret since 17th century and paints about their mind controlling symbol .... Seems totally legit.

 

[-Akuma-]

A group of fodders trying to prove that the triangle is the best shape.

 

[Prestonyoko]

All I honestly hate are the lil "coincidences" that seem to be everywhere, anything thats a triangle or eye is illuminati, that's what I hate so much.

It's annoying & doesn't even mean anything.

 

[STRAIGHTKILLL]

Look into the Bilderberg group. Its prob the closest thing to the illuminati that young people are crazy about today,
Also read into the rockefellars.. population control. Maybe check into cia mind control, television frequencies and stuff.
Also about the flouride , do your own research. Dentistst are against water floridation. Cause its best applied topically..
Here lately people have just read and took it all in as truths. So its good you are questoning these thangs.

 

[EnDash]

The Illuminati (plural of Latin illuminatus, "enlightened") is a name given to several groups, both real and fictitious. Historically the name refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776 to oppose superstition, prejudice, religious influence over public life, abuses of state power, and to support women's education and gender equality. The Illuminati—along with other secret societies—were outlawed by the Bavarian ruler, Charles Theodore, with the encouragement of the Roman Catholic Church, and permanently disbanded in 1785.[1] In the several years following, the group was vilified by conservative and religious critics who claimed they had regrouped and were responsible for the French Revolution.
In subsequent use, "Illuminati" refers to various organizations claiming or purported to have unsubstantiated links to the original Bavarian Illuminati or similar secret societies, and often alleged to conspire to control world affairs by masterminding events and planting agents in government and corporations to establish a New World Order and gain further political power and influence. Central to some of the most widely known and elaborate conspiracy theories, the Illuminati have been depicted as lurking in the shadows and pulling the strings and levers of power in dozens of novels, movies, television shows, comics, video games and music videos.

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The Illuminati were basicly a group that opposed the government and church and tried to replace them in a public and political ways, afterwards people used their name as explanation to why governmants fall or religious organistaions lose power, but it's an excuse. the illuminati group hasn't been around for over 300 years and their intention was never to rule the world, at least not more then it is the mission of governmants and religious organisations to rule the world.

Basically the same thing as the illuminati theory except it's jews. It can be plausible when you consider how many of them are bankers and own/found companies and what not.

and how many bankers are american? british? german? chinese or japanese or muslim or african. jewish people figure prominently in the US simply because it is an ally of israel and has good education and business opportunities, but they fall very short compared to how many other bankers and CEO's there is out there. in europe and the eastern world jews are almost never found.

besides, while there are lobbyist that support israel and the jews more then america, people overestimate their power and influence a lot. both the israel governmant and the jewish lobbyists supported mitt romney and didn't want obama to win the elections, and the israeli prime minister openly opposed obama. and yet despite the wishes of the "jewish conspiracy" obama won. if jews really controlled the world as this conspiracy claimed israel wouldn't be facing constant accusations from europe and the UN and threats of sanctions.

all those conspiracies are nothing but blaming an "easy" enemy for the economocial problems of a country or organisation. it's the reason why i believe the nazy party didn't truly hate the jews and wanted to extinct them, they simply used them to unite their nation and gain political power. give the people someone to hate and they will make you a king, it's what julius caesar and napoleon and hitler did.

 

[Hunty]

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"The Illuminati (plural of

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illuminatus, "enlightened") is a name given to several groups, both real and fictitious. Historically the name refers to theBavarian Illuminati, an

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founded on May 1, 1776 to oppose

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,

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, religious influence over public life, abuses of

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, and to support women's education and

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. The Illuminati—along with other secret societies—were outlawed by the Bavarian ruler,

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, with the encouragement of the

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, and permanently disbanded in 1785.[SUP]

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[/SUP] In the several years following, the group was vilified by conservative and religious critics who claimed they had regrouped and were responsible for the

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In subsequent use, "Illuminati" refers to various organizations claiming or purported to have unsubstantiated links to the original Bavarian Illuminati or similar secret societies, and often alleged to conspire to control world affairs by

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events and planting agents in

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and

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to establish a

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and gain further political power and influence. Central to some of the most widely known and elaborate

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, the Illuminati have been depicted as lurking in the shadows and pulling the strings and levers of power in dozens of novels, movies, television shows, comics, video games and music videos." - Directly from Wiki

 

[Tendou00]

It's all in interpretations and how you call it, you can call theme satan worshipers,demonic djinns etc...It's the same thing.

 

[Jobrjo]

The Illuminati is the best example of a real life successful troll. Classically so.

 

[Netferarri]

I don't believe it is, just a whole lot of bull, but hey, you, never know.

 

[namikaze12]

I think it's real, why else would singers, movies, ministers and politicians throw up signs and other subliminal messages?

 

[Troi]

This post is under the control of the Illuminati. I had no choice but to post this. I am but a puppet.