[Discussion] is the gum gum fruit good?

[Donald J Trump]

Compared to other df I don't think it's even good.

Imagine if Luffy had ope ope no mi Or Bringer of darkness. I think his current df is bs.

 

[Wretched]

What is a bringer of darkness !?

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

It's a pretty awful devil fruit, Luffy simply uses it well

What is a bringer of darkness !?

Hashirama Senju's Genjutsu that for whatever dumb**** reason in the anime Tobirama used on Hiruzen Sarutobi

 

[Donald J Trump]

What is a bringer of darkness !?

Its Sanjis df

 

[Words of wisdom]

It depends on the user luffy wouldn't be able to control ope ope no mi because he does not have the doctor skills of law

 

[xanonymosx]

the df useabilty isnt always dependent on the df it but on the one who is using it and how he uses it

for example we can all agree that ope ope >> gomu gomu
but if a brawler... say garp ate ope ope it would be semi useless and he will have to drop his fighting style in order to master the DF but if the same garp (with knowledge about gears ) ate gomu gomu he wouldnt need to drop his fighting style and all he need todo is getting used to his stretching thing after that all his stats will jump to a new lvl i mean imagine garp with g2 .. even yonkos would run away from that *****

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

the df useabilty isnt always dependent on the df it but on the one who is using it and how he uses it

for example we can all agree that ope ope >> gomu gomu
but if a brawler... say garp ate ope ope it would be semi useless and he will have to drop his fighting style in order to master the DF but if the same garp (with knowledge about gears ) ate gomu gomu he wouldnt need to drop his fighting style and all he need todo is getting used to his stretching thing after that all his stats will jump to a new lvl i mean imagine garp with g2 .. even yonkos would run away from that *****

Garp doesn't need G2 because he knows Soru, we know this because he taught Helmeppo and Coby rokushiki, evidently as they used it in both Water 7 and Marineford

G2 wouldn't give him any powerup

But yes, if an already established brawler type fighter ate something like the Ope Ope no Mi it wouldn't be as well used as Law can use it. Likewise, if say a Swordsman ate the Gomu Gomu no Mi the same is likely. But we know that if it wasn't for Luffy's creativity all he could do is stretch his limbs and become an easier target for Haki users, which is more detrimental than good

 

[xanonymosx]

Garp doesn't need G2 because he knows Soru, we know this because he taught Helmeppo and Coby rokushiki, evidently as they used it in both Water 7 and Marineford

G2 wouldn't give him any powerup

g2 isnt just increasing his speed it increases the physical ability that means even power is increased too

 

[Anduril]

LOL Luffy would have failed terribly with a fruit like Ope Ope no mi. Gum Gum suits his charachter well.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Each and every single devil fruit we've seen so far is powerful. They all boost your fighting abilities somehow therefore they're all "good".

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

g2 isnt just increasing his speed it increases the physical ability that means even power is increased too

Power is strength x speed... Garps speed wont increase so neither will his power, G2 is basically repetitively using an incomplete Soru in an unsafe manner so he would probably be worse off anyway

Each and every single devil fruit we've seen so far is powerful. They all boost your fighting abilities somehow therefore they're all "good".

There has to be a scale of relativity though. They can all be beneficial, but some more beneficial than others therefore these are "good" and the likes of less effective fruits are "bad"

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Power is strength x speed... Garps speed wont increase so neither will his power, G2 is basically repetitively using an incomplete Soru in an unsafe manner so he would probably be worse off anyway



There has to be a scale of relativity though. They can all be beneficial, but some more beneficial than others therefore these are "good" and the likes of less effective fruits are "bad"

That's only if you be so specific about your own personal benefit which is not the case in this thread.

 

[xanonymosx]

Power is strength x speed... Garps speed wont increase so neither will his power, G2 is basically repetitively using an incomplete Soru in an unsafe manner so he would probably be worse off anjust you

it inreases the physical ability which increases strength too ... are you saying g2 wouldnt add any thing to garp?

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

That's only if you be so specific about your own personal benefit which is not the case in this thread.

This made no sense. Devil fruits can be better or worse than eachother regardless of the fact they can all be useful, therefore in relative terms you can have "bad" fruits, like the Gomu Gomu no Mi, which are still beneficial to a user.

It's like you can have bad pizza, it's still pizza but it's not as good as good pizza

it inreases the physical ability which increases strength too ... are you saying g2 wouldnt add any thing to garp?

It increases his physical ability because it's a cheatcode to using Soru a lot.... Garp can already do that, it serves no benefit to him. His attacks are more damaging in G2 because of his speed, but if Garps speed doesn't increase (which it won't) then in theory absolutely nothing changes. He can already use the technique Luffy tried to mimic in order to obtain G2

 

[Venomous Cobra]

This made no sense. Devil fruits can be better or worse than eachother regardless of the fact they can all be useful, therefore in relative terms you can have "bad" fruits, like the Gomu Gomu no Mi, which are still beneficial to a user.

It's like you can have bad pizza, it's still pizza but it's not as good as good pizza



It increases his physical ability because it's a cheatcode to using Soru a lot.... Garp can already do that, it serves no benefit to him. His attacks are more damaging in G2 because of his speed, but if Garps speed doesn't increase (which it won't) then in theory absolutely nothing changes. He can already use the technique Luffy tried to mimic in order to obtain G2

You're arguing over nothing good sir, everyone knows that some dfs are more useful than others in specific terms, but that doesn't mean that the less "beneficial " ones aren't "good" which is my main point.

 

[xanonymosx]

It increases his physical ability because it's a cheatcode to using Soru a lot.... Garp can already do that, it serves no benefit to him. His attacks are more damaging in G2 because of his speed, but if Garps speed doesn't increase (which it won't) then in theory absolutely nothing changes. He can already use the technique Luffy tried to mimic in order to obtain G2

your problem is that you think g2 is only soru dude.. it`s the other way around g2 isnt soru g2 increases his physical ability then he uses soru among those physical abilitis comes his strength look at the deffrence between luffy`s regular punchs and g2 punchs ( even when luffy is standing still) the diffrence in attack speed is clear which means his attack speed went up (way up) now look at any soru user does the attack speed changese ? no because soru is a foot tech to increase mobility only while in g2 every one of luffy`s stats raise to another lvl

 

[ssjelf]

This made no sense. Devil fruits can be better or worse than eachother regardless of the fact they can all be useful, therefore in relative terms you can have "bad" fruits, like the Gomu Gomu no Mi, which are still beneficial to a user.

It's like you can have bad pizza, it's still pizza but it's not as good as good pizza



It increases his physical ability because it's a cheatcode to using Soru a lot.... Garp can already do that, it serves no benefit to him. His attacks are more damaging in G2 because of his speed, but if Garps speed doesn't increase (which it won't) then in theory absolutely nothing changes. He can already use the technique Luffy tried to mimic in order to obtain G2

I havent seen soru cause fire to come outta ones body.

 

[HashiraMadara SenjUchiha]

Gum Gum suits luffy more as he is a student of Garp!
but I think mera mera nomi is more badass looking

 

[ultraChalk]

It depends on the person.

Say what you want about the gomu gomu but that's gonna be what takes Luffy to the top of the world.

 

[bajram]

There is always hax but every fighter adapts his body based on the DF he eats, its not like luffy was born a brawler but having something like gomu gomu made him grow up as a physical fighter due to not having other choice at all, maybe if law ate gomu gomu at a young age then he would probably be a brawler like luffy is right now or vice versa if luffy eats ope, gomu gomu is not weak, actually its pretty good stretching, expanding and getting techs like G2,3 or more makes the DF pretty formidable, it may sound weak but its pretty good, its more of who uses it rather then the DF power or hax, u just train ur DF beyond weakness and then there is someone like Mr.5 who makes his DF look shit even though its pretty good.

I'm not denying that there are stronger fruits then the others but it mostly matters on the user of the DF.