is sasuke that bad

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i don*t approve what sasuke do, path he walk or see him necessary, way that he have any right
even live. since too many life is in danger, because him. But did we saw orochimaru as repulsive
even tough his human experience's literally toying with life after life. NO oro was awesome

while under itachi's life long genjutsu he saw former master orochimaru bad as his brother
did favour to everyone, kild him and move towards batlle he cannot lose, for his surname sake

to that point. he was an avenger as a human only bad as "truth" around him, if gain power
necessary was only possible trough severing bonds between team 7, i can respect that remember
how insane that day in past was, tsykuomi made even young child understand how _big_ leap
was between brothers strenght. and that wasn't even most "curse" like experience what itachi
left behind, it was the years between..

it's human nature to use power to be evil, those with different path are lucky one's..

all of us, like/with past and power even remotely close to sasuke in real world woul'd
use it for revenge, mass of people do want u as a labrat to harness your power other
want u dead, those options one would lose meaning in life, fast. What im trying to say
give sasuke a chance, he is only a human

without naruto, konoha is least powerfull village maybe after sunagakure, and war that
is waged bring about many advances, peace. in spotlight we have naruto individual
who doesn't compromise and is determined to get sasuke back. as i said earlier
he is "just" very lucky, since his tale is full of joy, he got that deep past that he
can understand sasuke. though who naruto is and represent wasn't matter of choice ..or was it?

storyline told that those two are long lost brothers, man like naruto is going to be
great hokage, uchiha belong konoha and naruto will make sure there he is at the very end
true long peace will exist, while power konoha have is superior, rikudou sennin's words
come to life "have power/ ninshu/ninjutsu was not about making war but about bringing peace"

and under those two sons of sage long era of peace will come.

main point it is not naruto who deserve get his friend back. itachi do deserve die knowing
his younger brother isn't full of hate and of course sasuke himself.
 

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you wrote to long so imma jst answer without reading anything u wrote anyway saskue is thinkkn he is geting revenge for his bro and the last manga chapter well you can see how itachi says "i failed u, u are not on the rght path"
 

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after reeading this i think i watch naruto bit too much :D sry my poor eng too
 

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"Is Sasuke that bad?" Uh, no. And anyone who can't see past what he's done, his reasons for doing it, and the front he's put up is a fool in my book. No offense, but really? Since day one Kakashi has told his students to, "See underneath the underneath." That's a lesson Kishi projected to us, the readers, so that we could understand his characters and their actions in the future.

Yes, Sasuke is a criminal. Yes, he's done bad things. Yes, some of those bad things have been spilling blood, taking away a life, and sacrificing an ally, comrade, and friend. But we all have to remember the pain Sasuke feels, which has manifested into hatred and a thirst for revenge. Remember the pain that made him the way he is, as well as the influences he's had. But, on that, try to remember both the good and bad, and hopefully you'll see there's a light still alive in him somewhere.

OK, now to go and actually readdd~
 

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sasuke was to easily manipulated to obtain power so his mind can't determine right form wrong even if itachi's telling him xd
 

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"Is Sasuke that bad?" Uh, no. And anyone who can't see past what he's done, his reasons for doing it, and the front he's put up is a fool in my book. No offense, but really? Since day one Kakashi has told his students to, "See underneath the underneath." That's a lesson Kishi projected to us, the readers, so that we could understand his characters and their actions in the future.

Yes, Sasuke is a criminal. Yes, he's done bad things. Yes, some of those bad things have been spilling blood, taking away a life, and sacrificing an ally, comrade, and friend. But we all have to remember the pain Sasuke feels, which has manifested into hatred and a thirst for revenge. Remember the pain that made him the way he is, as well as the influences he's had. But, on that, try to remember both the good and bad, and hopefully you'll see there's a light still alive in him somewhere.

OK, now to go and actually readdd~

yeah, seem like u read my _whole_ post.. i love this manga because big question it dealing with peace, hate and understanding one of other etc or maybe one of reasons if need to find word for one, about nagato clear example what i told, human with power is bound to use it wrong, about what u said i don't think it has much to do with light end of tunnel, sure there are sai, and nagato arch those told something about change, but from sasuke-itachi-naruto episode will be interesting prob, that's why created this thread, gang to see character and what thats stand for, not just against hole point of message calling gay? well this is for lack of understanding, to me it's important as who naruto is, quote yours message "light" god i hope not, but rather what he believe but after all change is possible .. so tunnel is dark at the moment
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u are right. all that sasuke is gay make no sense to me, can't enjoy the manga as much if u don't look deeper since around things like that kishi actually have vice perspective. i would like to read about him.

hey something to make reading twice as fun..
 
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"Is Sasuke that bad?" Uh, no. And anyone who can't see past what he's done, his reasons for doing it, and the front he's put up is a fool in my book. No offense, but really? Since day one Kakashi has told his students to, "See underneath the underneath." That's a lesson Kishi projected to us, the readers, so that we could understand his characters and their actions in the future.

Yes, Sasuke is a criminal. Yes, he's done bad things. Yes, some of those bad things have been spilling blood, taking away a life, and sacrificing an ally, comrade, and friend. But we all have to remember the pain Sasuke feels, which has manifested into hatred and a thirst for revenge. Remember the pain that made him the way he is, as well as the influences he's had. But, on that, try to remember both the good and bad, and hopefully you'll see there's a light still alive in him somewhere.

OK, now to go and actually readdd~

Thiss U_U +rep
 

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yeah, seem like u read my _whole_ post.. i love this manga because big question it dealing with peace, hate understanding one of other etc or maybe one of reasons if need to find word for one, about nagato clear example what i told, human with power and hatred is bound to be bad, this case "god of peace" whit nuke's and world war 3 in mind, about what u said i don't think it has much to do with light end of tunnel, sure eventually he see "light" god i hope not, but rather what u believe.. so tunnel is dark at the moment

u are right. all that sasuke is gay make no sense to me, can't enjoy the manga as much if u don't look deeper since around things like that kishi actually have vice perspective. i would like to read about him.

hey something to give great reading experience..

I've just started the YouTube video. But also, let me just say: no offense, because it is your opinion and you're entitled to your own, but can you really say the tunnel is completely dark right now? Really? Is that the way you see things? Not even the tiniest trace of light right now to lead Sasuke?

Thiss U_U +rep

Uwahhh, thank you~
 

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^^ Well lets say he not just good.
 

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how and what u mean by light if we look it in real world, overcome your ego is impossible well how could i put it, u know someone is depressed someone "happy" therefore full of testosterone and will to do things, either of them isn't going to change and those are just moods, how i see sasuke he will change at the end, but anykind of light isn't just in there, what he feels he believe- same to say naruto have slight amount of darkness ohh.. i see your point since that was a case back kyuubi arch but i think. at sometime he just realise something and will saw changes and just completely turnaround for now, i don't see light inside him. at all
 

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i see light within itachi hope, do even that reach him. maybe a litlle, that guy was everything to him. they did talk even about change. so tiny bit as of yet,

what you like youtube song?
 

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Meh. Something tells me you and I are in the same book, but not on the same page, if you will. I'll have to respect your opinion, though.

*Edit: also. Doublt posting - wouldn't do it. Mods don't like it.
 
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warning received, well i think it's whole point about sasuke, i can't tell im not behind story telling.. we leave it to kishimoto =) hope we each find maybe even answers, since i prefer manga over rap alot, i probably did change opinions since making thread, that means time to hit a bed.
 

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"Is Sasuke that bad?" Uh, no. And anyone who can't see past what he's done, his reasons for doing it, and the front he's put up is a fool in my book. No offense, but really? Since day one Kakashi has told his students to, "See underneath the underneath." That's a lesson Kishi projected to us, the readers, so that we could understand his characters and their actions in the future.

Yes, Sasuke is a criminal. Yes, he's done bad things. Yes, some of those bad things have been spilling blood, taking away a life, and sacrificing an ally, comrade, and friend. But we all have to remember the pain Sasuke feels, which has manifested into hatred and a thirst for revenge. Remember the pain that made him the way he is, as well as the influences he's had. But, on that, try to remember both the good and bad, and hopefully you'll see there's a light still alive in him somewhere.

OK, now to go and actually readdd~
Lol, he's kinda hit the dimmer switch on that light xD
 

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He has done some terrible things, like attacking the kage.
I dont think he can return to the village, and that he will be an outlaw forever, but He may change and atone for them.
 

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He has done some terrible things, like attacking the kage.
I dont think he can return to the village, and that he will be an outlaw forever, but He may change and atone for them.

narutoverse is undergoing change, so i don't think so that anyone have problem with sasuke returning to good guy... why would? crimes? everybody do crime now and again
yoitsjo :D i saw u r at the moment here so could u or someone tell me what is kumi for? what is different if u have 25.85kumi or 5000kumi? otherthing is +rep -rep what to those do? and if someone thank me for my post what that means or how it is diffrent than +rep if someone if kind enough to answer didn't find in general question place anything useful
 
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He has done some terrible things, like attacking the kage.
I dont think he can return to the village, and that he will be an outlaw forever, but He may change and atone for them.

narutoverse is undergoing change, so i don't think so that anyone have problem with sasuke returning to good guy... why would? crimes? everybody do crime now and again
yoitsjo :D i saw u r at the moment here so could u or someone tell me what is kumi for? what is different if u have 25.85kumi or 5000kumi? otherthing is +rep -rep what to those do? and if someone thank me for my post what that means or how it is diffrent than +rep if someone if kind enough to answer didn't find in general question place anything useful

i just tough about day when sasuke find himself, get rid of hate and come back home.. u said he done some horrible deeds i otherhand think it not case _yet_ no harm did come to bee and danzo was irony spendible/acceptable loss by his own code, moral aside but coming back from bad to good doesn't mean much if he don't have much to reconcile so im kind of sure, he will kill hinata, neji someone's important to naruto himself and everyone else in his age group, so how they forgive him?? even if naruto choose to accept him not forgive him, how others come terms with that.. is mourning gonna cut it?
 
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