Is Sasuke On The Level Of EMS Madara, Before VOTE?

[apsri]

Show me pre-VotE madara doing that.



Lol, you clearly don't read the Manga.

Hashirama beat Madara way before Konoha was even formed.

Did you not read the last sentence?

 

[amarusboobs]

Naruto is above Sasuke atm. EMS Madara>Naruto>Sasuke..

But Naruto would most likely win against Madara with Plot no Jutsu, he is the main character.

 

[Denzel Washington]

Did you not read the last sentence?

Yes, I did, and that is baseless because you don't even know Pre-VotE Madara's feats.

 

[Prime Rib]

madara is still much more powerfull than sasuke

 

[apsri]

Yes, I did, and that is baseless because you don't even know Pre-VotE Madara's feats.

I don't think you know what "baseless" means. Everything Madara threw at Hashirama at VoTE, with the exception of Kurama, he had during his fight with him after Izuna's death. There's no reason to assume that that's not the case, given that both times, he possessed the same eye abilities: EMS.

Unless you can give some evidence showing that it's unreasonable to assume that his abilities before VoTE were much inferior, I'm going to stick with what we've seen from EMS Madara.

 

[Denzel Washington]

I don't think you know what "baseless" means. Everything Madara threw at Hashirama at VoTE, with the exception of Kurama, he had during his fight with him after Izuna's death. There's no reason to assume that that's not the case, given that both times, he possessed the same eye abilities: EMS.

Unless you can give some evidence showing that it's unreasonable to assume that his abilities before VoTE were much inferior, I'm going to stick with what we've seen from EMS Madara.

Cause it's not like he had years to perfect his EMS, right?

Oh, what's that? Oh yeah, he did!

In Madara and Hashirama's first EMS fight, Madara had just obtained EMS, just like Sasuke is now.

 

[apsri]

Cause it's not like he had years to perfect his EMS, right?

Oh, what's that? Oh yeah, he did!

In Madara and Hashirama's first EMS fight, Madara had just obtained EMS, just like Sasuke is now.

It's an eye power. It's not like he thought up Susanoo one day at the Uchiha camp. He'd be more rusty, but he would still have everything he currently has.

And, anyway, if you're going to put all of these BS restrictions, why make this thread? We never got to see MS Madara or more than one or two panels of the Madara vs Hashirama during the era of warring states. What do you expect us to compare it to, then, if you're going to place all of these unreasonable limitations on Madara?

 

[BigBlade Master]

EMS Madara and from far.

 

[KidGamer65]

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Then I agree. Enton weapons burn/cut through his Susanoo and Sasuke wins. This Madara didn't have Perfect Susanoo, probably didn't even have Final Susanoo.

If you believe he had PS then you clearly mistaken.

Land Scape was not torn up like it should be if PS was used.

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PS destructive power.

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Hashirama needs Shinsuusenju to destroy Perfect Susanoo. Does anyone really believe that the above scan from Chapter 624 looks like an area where Shinsuusenju clashed with PS? Especially last time when Shinsuusenju broke through PS, it created a valley.

Madara clearly told Hashirama that he'd changed since their last fight.

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He clearly didn't have Kurama either.

Sasuke>Pre VoTE Madara. Though VoTE Madara stomps.

Wow, reading through this thread perfectly shows that some people can't read and understand a manga.

 

[Denzel Washington]

It's an eye power. It's not like he thought up Susanoo one day at the Uchiha camp. He'd be more rusty, but he would still have everything he currently has.

And, anyway, if you're going to put all of these BS restrictions, why make this thread? We never got to see MS Madara or more than one or two panels of the Madara vs Hashirama during the era of warring states. What do you expect us to compare it to, then, if you're going to place all of these unreasonable limitations on Madara?

Just because you have a technique doesn't mean you're good with it.

Because I wanted to know if Sasuke could take on Pre-VotE Madara?

 

[Denzel Washington]

If you mean

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Then I agree. Enton weapons burn/cut through his Susanoo and Sasuke wins. This Madara didn't have Perfect Susanoo, probably didn't even have Final Susanoo.

If you believe he had PS then you clearly mistaken.

Land Scape was not torn up like it should be if PS was used.

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Madara clearly told Hashirama that he'd changed since their last fight.

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He clearly didn't have Kurama either.

Sasuke>Pre VoTE Madara. Though VoTE Madara stomps.

Wow, reading through this thread perfectly shows that some people can't read and understand a manga.

I would much appreciate if you put this apsri in his place, you have a better way of debating than I.

 

[5pace time continuum]

*sigh*

Sasuke is only 16 years old. So your putting a 16 year old up against a full primed shinobi 30+ yr old, wtf?

What has Madara achieved when he was 16 years old? Sasuke accomplished more things than him and plus he activated the EMS at the age of 16

He will surpass Madara soon and this goes for Naruto surpassing Hashirama soon as well.

 

[apsri]

Just because you have a technique doesn't mean you're good with it.

Because I wanted to know if Sasuke could take on Pre-VotE Madara?

Hence the "he may be more rusty with it, but he'll still have it". There's not much thinking involved with Susanoo.

How do you expect anybody to answer your question if you've placed so many restrictions on EMS Madara's power? We've seen Sasuke fight many times before, so we know what he has in his arsenal. We never got to see more than a panel of Susanoo being activated before VoTE. So if you're just going to go "oh, noes, he can't use that, because that was vote and that's cheating", then there's not much left to say.

 

[Captain Planet]

*sigh*

Sasuke is only 16 years old. So your putting a 16 year old up against a full primed shinobi 30+ yr old, wtf?

What has Madara achieved when he was 16 years old? Sasuke accomplished more things than him and plus he activated the EMS at the age of 16

He will surpass Madara soon and this goes for Naruto surpassing Hashirama soon as well.

THIS. Thank you for understanding this.

 

[apsri]

*sigh*

Sasuke is only 16 years old. So your putting a 16 year old up against a full primed shinobi 30+ yr old, wtf?

What has Madara achieved when he was 16 years old? Sasuke accomplished more things than him and plus he activated the EMS at the age of 16

He will surpass Madara soon and this goes for Naruto surpassing Hashirama soon as well.

Being the first person to awaken the Mangekyo Sharingan?

I kid, I kid.

 

[Denzel Washington]

Hence the "he may be more rusty with it, but he'll still have it". There's not much thinking involved with Susanoo.

How do you expect anybody to answer your question if you've placed so many restrictions on EMS Madara's power? We've seen Sasuke fight many times before, so we know what he has in his arsenal. We never got to see more than a panel of Susanoo being activated before VoTE. So if you're just going to go "oh, noes, he can't use that, because that was vote and that's cheating", then there's not much left to say.

Well same logic goes for Sasuke? He's rusty with it too, but he still has it.

 

[apsri]

Well same logic goes for Sasuke? He's rusty with it too, but he still has it.

What's "it"?

 

[Denzel Washington]

What's "it"?

EMS, Susano'o, take your pick.

 

[apsri]

EMS, Susano'o, take your pick.

Yes, of course he has EMS and Susanoo.

 

[Denzel Washington]

Yes, of course he has EMS and Susanoo.

So what I'm asking is:

Is Sasuke, who just obtained EMS, on par with Madara, when he first obtained EMS?