Is Sasuke a criminal?

[HiddenSound]

Sasuke is not a criminal. If people like Danzo, Gaara, Hiruzen, and Tobirama can be let off for committing treasonous acts, then what Sasuke has done pales in comparison. Law is not selective. It applies to all.



Danzo did the same. He, in fact, associated with two criminals. Yet you don't seem to be bothered by it.

He didn't associate with Orochimaru. In fact, he tried to throw a wrench in his plans.
Tobi, yeah, wrong of Danzō.

 

[shelke]

Save fodder=kill lots of fodder his actions still need to be judged before his pardoned. Everyone in this alliance belongs to a village. So he doesn't fall under the alliance. Simple as that. He is a criminal until pardoned.

Your posts reflect height of stupidity and blind hatred for a cartoon, nicely exhibited through your selective reasoning as to who is a criminal and who isn't. Let's see now, all Villages used Akatsuki to murder even their own people so that their military budgets wouldn't dry out. But hey, that's a great thing, as long as they don't kill the people of their own village, they can mass slaughter as many individuals as they like.

Raikge was himself involved in plenty of random incursions to kidnap Kushina. His attempt to kill Hinata and obtain Byakugan isn't forgotten. Also, the Jinchuriki aren't the property of any nation. I would like you to produce one reliable evidence to back this self-created garbage up. They are vessels and anyone can and has the right to obtain the tailed beasts.

So, let me guess, you are willing to pardon Gaara for indiscriminately slaughtering people to 'feel alive', you are willing to pardon Hiruzen for letting a man run off when he killed new born children even to further his research, you are willing to let Danzo off, who remained in contact with Akastski, slipped Anbu files through Sai, stayed in contact with Orochimaru till he was killed, you are also willing to forgive Tobirama for treason as he violated a national set treaty, you are willing to let off all Kages for heinous crimes against many people including their own ... but Sasuke deserves to be put to death?

Your hypocrisy is appalling.

He didn't associate with Orochimaru. In fact, he tried to throw a wrench in his plans.
Tobi, yeah, wrong of Danzō.

He slipped him Anbu files, that included a file of Yamato. How do you think Hiruzen died and he got all those eyes transplanted? Then there is Tobi as well. I think Sasuke killed a traitor.

 

[FoolzBeWeary]

Your posts reflect height of stupidity and blind hatred for a cartoon, nicely exhibited through your selective reasoning as to who is a criminal and who isn't. Let's see now, all Villages used Akatsuki to murder even their own people so that their military budgets wouldn't dry out. But hey, that's a great thing, as long as they don't kill the people of their own village, they can mass slaughter as many individuals as they like.

Raikge was himself involved in plenty of random incursions to kidnap Kushina. His attempt to kill Hinata and obtain Byakugan isn't forgotten. Also, the Jinchuriki aren't the property of any nation. I would like you to produce one reliable evidence to back this self-created garbage up. They are vessels and anyone can and has the right to obtain the tailed beasts.

So, let me guess, you are willing to pardon Gaara for indiscriminately slaughtering people to 'feel alive', you are willing to pardon Hiruzen for letting a man run off when he killed new born children even to further his research, you are willing to let Danzo off, who remained in contact with Akastski, slipped Anbu files through Sai, stayed in contact with Orochimaru till he was killed, you are also willing to forgive Tobirama for treason as he violated a national set treaty, you are willing to let off all Kages for heinous crimes against many people including their own ... but Sasuke deserves to be put to death?

Your hypocrisy is appalling.

Read my other post like I said I never said the other people that used them shouldn't be punished. This thread is about Sasuke get off your high horse.

 

[shelke]

Read my other post like I said I never said the other people that used them shouldn't be punished. This thread is about Sasuke get off your high horse.

It's about your reasoning in regards to Gaara. You must really be a weary fool, if you didn't even grasp my post.

 

[HiddenSound]

Your posts reflect height of stupidity and blind hatred for a cartoon, nicely exhibited through your selective reasoning as to who is a criminal and who isn't. Let's see now, all Villages used Akatsuki to murder even their own people so that their military budgets wouldn't dry out. But hey, that's a great thing, as long as they don't kill the people of their own village, they can mass slaughter as many individuals as they like.

Raikge was himself involved in plenty of random incursions to kidnap Kushina. His attempt to kill Hinata and obtain Byakugan isn't forgotten. Also, the Jinchuriki aren't the property of any nation. I would like you to produce one reliable evidence to back this self-created garbage up. They are vessels and anyone can and has the right to obtain the tailed beasts.

So, let me guess, you are willing to pardon Gaara for indiscriminately slaughtering people to 'feel alive', you are willing to pardon Hiruzen for letting a man run off when he killed new born children even to further his research, you are willing to let Danzo off, who remained in contact with Akastski, slipped Anbu files through Sai, stayed in contact with Orochimaru till he was killed, you are also willing to forgive Tobirama for treason as he violated a national set treaty, you are willing to let off all Kages for heinous crimes against many people including their own ... but Sasuke deserves to be put to death?

Your hypocrisy is appalling.



He slipped him Anbu files, that included a file of Yamato. How do you think Hiruzen died and he got all those eyes transplanted? Then there is Tobi as well. I think Sasuke killed a traitor.

I figured you'd bring that up. What was on those files? How do we know they were what they seem? Because Kabuto glanced at them for second and said they seem legit?
How do I think Hiruzen died? Because Orochimaru planed the assault and killed him :|
When Orochimaru transplanted the eyes he was still a Leaf shinobi.
It's fine if you think Danzō was a traitor. I don't really care.

 

[FoolzBeWeary]

It's about your reasoning in regards to Gaara. You must really be a weary fool, if you didn't even grasp my post.

You must be retard to say Sasuke isn't a criminal at all. It's full logical to call Sasuke an accessory to mass murder. Gaara a 12 year old kid ordered to kill people. Your saying it's the same as Sasuke doing everything for an evil group at his free will. Sorry but you have to be retarded to think that. Your post said nothing about gaara retard.

 

[shelke]

I figured you'd bring that up. What was on those files? How do we know they were what they seem? Because Kabuto glanced at them for second and said they seem legit?
How do I think Hiruzen died? Because Orochimaru planed the assault and killed him :|
When Orochimaru transplanted the eyes he was still a Leaf shinobi.
It's fine if you think Danzō was a traitor. I don't really care.

They were legit, as one of them was on Yamato. Now you are just denying something too obvious. Raikage mentions it, and so does Chiyo. Two characters cannot be wrong. What? I don't think so. Minato was made a Hokage when the attack happened. Orochimaru joined Akatsuki some time between the massacre and the surveillance. As when Itachi was sent in as a spy, Orochimaru was already a member of Akatsuki. Because he was paired up with Sasori first.

You must be retard to say Sasuke isn't a criminal at all. It's full logical to call Sasuke an accessory to mass murder. Gaara a 12 year old kid ordered to kill people. Your saying it's the same as Sasuke doing everything for an evil group at his free will. Sorry but you have to be retarded to think that. Your post said nothing about gaara retard.

I am sorry, what was that? Also, your name suits you as this 'accessory to mass murder and an evil organization' are the words of a guy with limited intellectual capacity. Do investigate what Akatsuiki was and how it came to be what it was in the future.

 

[HiddenSound]

They were legit, as one of them was on Yamato. Now you are just denying something too obvious. Raikage mentions it, and so does Chiyo. Two characters cannot be wrong. What? I don't think so. Minato was made a Hokage when the attack happened. Orochimaru some time between the massacre and the surveillance. As when Itachi was sent in as a spy, Orochimaru was already a member of Akatsuki. Because he was paired up with Sasori first.

Could they have not been slightly edited? Root was a crafty organization.
What did Raikage and Chiyo say, exactly? What I know is that by Part 2, Orochimaru didn't even know whether or not Danzō was still alive. 2 and a half years is too short an amount of time to be completely unaware whether or not a person died or not.
You lost me at the point about Minato onward.

 

[FoolzBeWeary]

They were legit, as one of them was on Yamato. Now you are just denying something too obvious. Raikage mentions it, and so does Chiyo. Two characters cannot be wrong. What? I don't think so. Minato was made a Hokage when the attack happened. Orochimaru joined Akatsuki some time between the massacre and the surveillance. As when Itachi was sent in as a spy, Orochimaru was already a member of Akatsuki. Because he was paired up with Sasori first.



I am sorry, what was that? Also, your name suits you as this 'accessory to mass murder and an evil organization' are the words of a guy with limited intellectual capacity. Do investigate what Akatsuiki was and how it came to be what it was in the future.

Really I just proved you're wrong. Now you're attacking my wording. Lolz just stop he is in fact a accessory to mass murder. Yet you still can't prove me other wise. The akatsuiki is an evil originations like it or not. Doesn't matter what it was like in the beginning. You have yet to say other wise I am wrong.

 

[shelke]

Could they have not been slightly edited? Root was a crafty organization.
What did Raikage and Chiyo say, exactly? What I know is that by Part 2, Orochimaru didn't even know whether or not Danzō was still alive. 2 and a half years is too short an amount of time to be unaware whether or not a person died or not.
You lost me at the point about Minato onward.

Look, this is an assumption backed by nothing. I don't want to start yet another argument on this as both of us would not like it. Raikage's monologue shows that he was certain he had a hand in that incursion and Chiyo mentioned Sasori's hand in it as well. Since Danzo was associated with them, I cannot see how it's difficult to add two into two.

Which point? Time line or something else?

Really I just proved you're wrong. Now you're attacking my wording. Lolz just stop he is in fact a accessory to mass murder. Yet you still can't prove me other wise. The akatsuiki is an evil originations like it or not. Doesn't matter what it was like in the beginning. You have yet to say other wise I am wrong.

Accessory to mass murder in which regard? Akatsuki isn't, really, Given that all Kages used them as well. What's up with your ridiculously selective finger pointing? It's puerile.

You are, as you have given no proper reasoning to extrapolate on this.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

So your saying Sasuke that's working for an evil group. Didn't know that it was going to be used for evil? And like I said the only village and leader that didn't use them is the leaf and the 5th hokage. Sasuke is an accessory to mass murder and like I said the other people that used them should be punished to.

He was in the Akatsuki for his own purposes,he didn't care about them,nor was he trying to contribute to them,he literally said that he would use them and they wouldn't use him.

You must be retard to say Sasuke isn't a criminal at all. It's full logical to call Sasuke an accessory to mass murder. Gaara a 12 year old kid ordered to kill people. Your saying it's the same as Sasuke doing everything for an evil group at his free will. Sorry but you have to be retarded to think that. Your post said nothing about gaara retard.

Gaara didn't kill people just because he was ordered.He killed because he felt like it.Those fodders in the forest of death,those fodders in the Staduim.

Gaara was also shown not to care about orders hence him trying to go Bijuu after Sasuke kicked his ass despite it not being the planned time.

Could they have not been slightly edited? Root was a crafty organization.
What did Raikage and Chiyo say, exactly? What I know is that by Part 2, Orochimaru didn't even know whether or not Danzō was still alive. 2 and a half years is too short an amount of time to be completely unaware whether or not a person died or not.
You lost me at the point about Minato onward.

Orochimaru had already left the Village by the time the Uchiha Massacre happened,and Itachi became an Akatsuki member then - Orochimaru was partnered with Itachi,and it was said that Orochimaru used to be Sasori's partner.

 

[Nagi]

Of course he is. If anyone commits any crime whatsoever, they're a criminal. Hell, we're all criminals for reading this pirated manga. And Sasuke is an especially heinous criminal. Attacking the Raikage's brother, working with two international terrorists (Orochimaru and Tobi), assassinating the Hokage Candidate, and attacking the 5 Kages at a political gathering.
But, while he should be punished for these, the punishment should be soften by a good margin for his part in saving the world.

Is that hidden leaf village is a criminal?

 

[Nagi]

If sasuke a criminal then that hidden leaf village is the biggest criminal of all!

 

[HiddenSound]

Look, this is an assumption backed by nothing. I don't want to start yet another argument on this as both of us would not like it. Raikage's monologue shows that he was certain he had a hand in that incursion and Chiyo mentioned Sasori's hand in it as well. Since Danzo was associated with them, I cannot see how it's difficult to add two into two.

Which point? Time line or something else?



Accessory to mass murder in which regard? Akatsuki isn't, really, Given that all Kages used them as well. What's up with your ridiculously selective finger pointing? It's puerile.

You are, as you have given no proper reasoning to extrapolate on this.

Maybe, but the information was never shown to be used and given both the... treacherous but also, you may disagree, "Konoha first" nature of Root, we will never know what was said. Could be a trick against Orochimaru, could not.
I remember Raikage saying Orochimaru was part of Ajatsuki during the Konoha Crash, which was not true. But I don't remember Chiyo ever saying anything about Orochimaru or Sasori having a hand in the attack. I don't understand what you mean.

The point about Minato being made Hokage, and the point of Orochimaru joining Akatsuki after the massacre, and the point of Orochimaru being paired with Sasori first.

 

[nightwolf888]

i'm not sure what i put sasuke as right now. but the whole bee you look at one way but you can also look at it like this , what if it was obito instead sasuke that faced bee ,what if was the whole eight tailes instead of a tentacle ,they would be facing a much more stronger version of the jubbi, none of the training for naruto to learn to use the nine tailes would happened, they would be without bee , and they would have lost the war

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

If sasuke a criminal then that hidden leaf village is the biggest criminal of all!

Correct, that is why i say Konoha got what it deserved by Sasuke.

 

[FoolzBeWeary]

Look, this is an assumption backed by nothing. I don't want to start yet another argument on this as both of us would not like it. Raikage's monologue shows that he was certain he had a hand in that incursion and Chiyo mentioned Sasori's hand in it as well. Since Danzo was associated with them, I cannot see how it's difficult to add two into two.

Which point? Time line or something else?



Accessory to mass murder in which regard? Akatsuki isn't, really, Given that all Kages used them as well. What's up with your ridiculously selective finger pointing? It's puerile.


You are, as you have given no proper reasoning to extrapolate on this.

Ok let me make it simple for you.

I build a bomb for a group. I don't know what they will use it for. They kill 500 people with it. That makes me an accessory to mass murder. Sasuke captures chakra of the 8 tail they use it to kill hundreds. Makes him an accessory to mass murder. And I stated the kages that used them should be punished to. It's not selective finger blaming.

 

[UnknownJin]

hes not , he just wanted to avenge Uchiha clan

 

[shelke]

Maybe, but the information was never shown to be used and given both the... treacherous but also, you may disagree, "Konoha first" nature of Root, we will never know what was said. Could be a trick against Orochimaru, could not.
I remember Raikage saying Orochimaru was part of Ajatsuki during the Konoha Crash, which was not true. But I don't remember Chiyo ever saying anything about Orochimaru or Sasori having a hand in the attack. I don't understand what you mean.

The point about Minato being made Hokage, and the point of Orochimaru joining Akatsuki after the massacre, and the point of Orochimaru being paired with Sasori first.

When Sasori brought out the previous Kazekage, she did mention Fourth as well. Since at that time Orocchimaru was directly involved the thing is quite clear.

It's rather simple. We don't know exactly when Orochimaru left leaf, but it is certain that he was not a shinobi when the massacre happened. This is easily backed by the fact that when Itachi joined immediately after the Massacre, Orochimaru was already a member.

Ok let me make it simple for you.

I build a bomb for a group. I don't know what they will use it for. They kill 500 people with it. That makes me an accessory to mass murder. Sasuke captures chakra of the 8 tail they use it to kill hundreds. Makes him an accessory to mass murder. And I stated the kages that used them should be punished to. It's not selective finger blaming.

So is Itachi, Danzo, and Konoha in general. Better point fingers in all directions.

 

[Nagi]

Maybe, but the information was never shown to be used and given both the... treacherous but also, you may disagree, "Konoha first" nature of Root, we will never know what was said. Could be a trick against Orochimaru, could not.
I remember Raikage saying Orochimaru was part of Ajatsuki during the Konoha Crash, which was not true. But I don't remember Chiyo ever saying anything about Orochimaru or Sasori having a hand in the attack. I don't understand what you mean.

The point about Minato being made Hokage, and the point of Orochimaru joining Akatsuki after the massacre, and the point of Orochimaru being paired with Sasori first.

He didn't join after the massascre. I believe he joined before. Once Itachi got in, Orochimaru went after him and lost his arm, forcing him to leave to find a new body.