Is Sakura's Talent beneath Tsunade? Data-book IV puts things in Perspective!

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People call it canon, and so did Kishi, and I don't see the plot changing AT ALL If Shikamaru, Sai or even the Kyuubi dispel that Genjutsu, do you?

But Sakura did, not them.

Tell me how Sakura did it then. How did she break this genjutsu after being caught in it?


The genjutsu was a plot device that was used to show Naruto, Hinata's memories and feelings about him. From the mechanics of the genjutsu, we see that Naruto didn't try to break the jutsu and instead travelled back and forth from his memories into Hinata's. Since they were both connected when it started.
 

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Tell me how Sakura did it then. How did she break this genjutsu after being caught in it?
Watch the movie... I mean, how bias are you?

It's clear:

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If you don't know that Genjutsu can be cancelled by stopping the chakra flow, well, then someone needs to reread the manga:
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The genjutsu was a plot device that was used to show Naruto, Hinata's memories and feelings about him. From the mechanics of the genjutsu, we see that Naruto didn't try to break the jutsu and instead travelled back and forth from his memories into Hinata's. Since they were both connected when it started.
I know the Genjutsu was a way to show Naruto Hinata's feelings, but the one to disrupt it could have been Shikamru, Sai, and even the Kyuubi, and the plot wouldn't have changed at all.

But Sakura got to do it.
 

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Watch the movie... I mean, how bias are you?

It's clear:

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That's not clear, that is vague. Deliberately so.

The question is, how did Sakura escape an illusion (genjutsu) created of her own memories?

A question that there is no answer to, except "Sakura is ""resistant"" to genjusu". That doesn't mean anything, and only helps move the plot along because the writers did not know how to communicate Naruto seeing Hinata's feelings in a dream like sequence and simultaneously have it be a trap that needed to be escaped from.
 

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That's not clear, that is vague. Deliberately so.

The question is, how did Sakura escape an illusion (genjutsu) created of her own memories?

A question that there is no answer to, except "Sakura is ""resistant"" to genjusu". That doesn't mean anything, and only helps move the plot along because the writers did not know how to communicate Naruto seeing Hinata's feelings in a dream like sequence and simultaneously have it be a trap that needed to be escaped from.

Facts:
  1. It's a Genjutsu, dude... Sakura disrupted it, and then released her comrades from it.
  2. The plot wouldn't have changed AT all if the team was saved by any other member.

There is no more information about it, no further details, but they are not needed either.

Just deal with it and move on.
 
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Facts:
  1. It's a Genjutsu, dude... Sakura disrupted it, and then released her comrades from it.
  2. The plot wouldn't have changed AT all if the team was saved by any other member.

There is not more information about it, no further detail, but they are not needed either.

Just deal with it and move on.

So plot soloed logic, again?

Genjutsu has rules. A person uses their chakra to manipulate and control the brain of another person. The way to escape said control varies.
Dojutsu : Sharingan, Rinnegan, Byakugan
Chakra disruption either internal or external
Physical pain
Casting genjutsu on a person already caught (Itachi and Sauske vs Kabuto fight)


The movie didn't show Sakura using any of the aforementioned methods to escape Toneri's genjutsu. Only stating Sakura is resistant, which is vague and yet people keep citing this feat for Sakura, but no one can explain how it worked. Just hey, the plot of a movie said Sakura was resistant, so don't question how.
 

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Great read man. Naruto was the worst chakra control in team 7. Just imagine what Sasuke could do with an enormous amount of chakra. Oh wait he .
 

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So plot soloed logic, again?

Genjutsu has rules. A person uses their chakra to manipulate and control the brain of another person. The way to escape said control varies.
Dojutsu : Sharingan, Rinnegan, Byakugan
Chakra disruption either internal or external
Physical pain
Casting genjutsu on a person already caught (Itachi and Sauske vs Kabuto fight)


The movie didn't show Sakura using any of the aforementioned methods to escape Toneri's genjutsu. Only stating Sakura is resistant, which is vague and yet people keep citing this feat for Sakura, but no one can explain how it worked. Just hey, the plot of a movie said Sakura was resistant, so don't question how.

I am not here to say how she escaped, that part was clearly not shown, but is fact that she escaped by her own means.

Even if the scene of her repelling the genjutsu wasn't shown, It doesn't denies the fact that she did, and it also doesn't make her feat invalid or false.
 

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Good read
t's all data book and manga facts put together and yet all these butthurts denying them with their own claims.
 

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The full Title: Is Sakura's Talent beneath Tsunade in regards to Chakra Control and Byakugou seal? Data-book IV puts things in Perspective!

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Data book IV on Sakura's Talent and Byakogou Sousou Saisei's Mechanics:




Further explanation on Byakogou Sousou Saisei:



So what did the facts created by the author tell us:

1) Sakura has the same talent and smarts as Tsunade. Check.
2) Byakogou Sousou Saisei is the result of the pinnacle of chakra control. Check.
3) It instantly heals wounds. Check.
4) When Ninpo "Sousou Saisei" is used at the same time as "Byakugou no Jutsu", it becomes possible to use it (Sousou Saisei) over a long period of time. Check.
5) It's a marvelous Jutsu. Check. Naruto, you have competition everywhere. Despite the fact that the Chakra Control is a handed over ability in your Sage of the Six Paths Senjutsu mode:

Page 4 of the same thread:



So in natural talent Sakura's CC surpasses Naruto? Oh dear! Since I dislike both characters, it'll be awesome to see people from Naruto front deny something the author has written.

By popular demand, Naruto's Rasangans fused with Bijuu chakra have also been explained:





Might as well throw Madara's Storm Release in there as well, as Jubi Jins also possess the Sage of the Six Paths powers, that allows them the same innate command and control over things. It has nothing to do with skill.



Edit 1: Directed at those who believe Sakura has no feats, when healing and remote healing together with her seal are feats that no one in the manga is capable of: they show her mastery and control over chakra is at its pinnacle.

Healing itself involves Precise Chakra Control honed to perfection:

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That means, not only Sakura's CC without managing the seal is precise, but during the management and remote healing countless people, it deserves even more praise - Click the spoiler tag to look at the feats:

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Comparatively, Naruto is simply showing Bijuu's own control over their chakra. It has nothing to do with Naruto:

CC is nothing more than understanding of Chakra and using it properly.

- The Bijuu literally prepares steam chakra for Naruto.

- "I've prepared chakra for you Naruto."

It wouldn't kill anyone to give credit where it's due. Most of you go too far with your nonsensical bashing, as the author has shown Sakura with nearly unmatched Chakra Control and Ninjutsu prowess. If you deny this, it's simply fiction.

SasukeBase be backing the Wifey up.

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Good read.
 
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Sakura does not have the same talent as Tsunade.

The only fact you need is this one.
12 year old Oro and Tsuna, managed to individually take bells away from Prime Hiruzen.
Tsuna > Sakura since birth.

I will take the author's opinion over yours any day. Tsunade simply had a better upbringing. Sakura's parents I am not even sure are ninjas.

-sigh-, Naruto's character never revolved around having the best chakra control in his team... and Kishimoto didn't change that either. His way is having huge chakras, precise chakra control is a counter to when fighting against those with huge chakras.

Sakura > Sasuke > Naruto in chakra control. Chakra control in the manga has always been about precision since part 1 .

Sasuke's CC is at the Sage's level. Let's not go over-board.
 

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A whole thread about CC and comparing it to naruto....why? It's a well known and stated fact sakura has the best CC..... it's one of her only talents in part 1.... and a whole lot of good it did her against Ino LOL. She had perfect CC but has no worthwhile jutsu to use it on.

Hell it's one of the Major reasons she becomes a medic nin.Because she has CC and not much else. Even after timeskip we rarely see it put to use other than medic ninjutsu.

We don't really see her use it in earnest until the very latter stages of the war arc.

So i guess if that's all to the thread then yeah. It's been well known for a very long time. Sakura has the perfect CC whereas naruto has god awful CC that is negated by his enormous natural chakra reserves. Hell even in part one have the worst CC naruto was able to pull off feats sakura never matched at any point. Naruto's own reserves are 4x that of a kage level kakashi in the middle of shippuden. So cc was never a big point. Even when training with jiraya it's more about capitalizing on his stupidly hax amounts of chakra to produce huge techs then CC.

Thats what they are. Sakura is the best CC in NV and as such a master incredibly delicate and finite things such as storing chakra in a seal for 3 continous years. where as naruto is all about putting to use his enourmous hax amounts of chakra.
 

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I dont know where all the sakura fappers are coming from. Kishi hates sakura. This is mangaphax. All her CC means nothing to madara, pain, naruto and sasuke. Shes comparable to the worse hokage in NV history.
 

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I dont know where all the sakura fappers are coming from. Kishi hates sakura. This is mangaphax. All her CC means nothing to madara, pain, naruto and sasuke. Shes comparable to the worse hokage in NV history.

Nice opinions.

A whole thread about CC and comparing it to naruto....why? It's a well known and stated fact sakura has the best CC..... it's one of her only talents in part 1.... and a whole lot of good it did her against Ino LOL. She had perfect CC but has no worthwhile jutsu to use it on.

Hell it's one of the Major reasons she becomes a medic nin.Because she has CC and not much else. Even after timeskip we rarely see it put to use other than medic ninjutsu.

We don't really see her use it in earnest until the very latter stages of the war arc.

So i guess if that's all to the thread then yeah. It's been well known for a very long time. Sakura has the perfect CC whereas naruto has god awful CC that is negated by his enormous natural chakra reserves. Hell even in part one have the worst CC naruto was able to pull off feats sakura never matched at any point. Naruto's own reserves are 4x that of a kage level kakashi in the middle of shippuden. So cc was never a big point. Even when training with jiraya it's more about capitalizing on his stupidly hax amounts of chakra to produce huge techs then CC.

Thats what they are. Sakura is the best CC in NV and as such a master incredibly delicate and finite things such as storing chakra in a seal for 3 continous years. where as naruto is all about putting to use his enourmous hax amounts of chakra.

Because people thought that her CC is below Naruto. Had to prove otherwise.
 

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Saying you can not deny "my own fiction" is pure childish...
What can sakura do with all of that ? Nothin but a copy cat ?
Naruto able to control all of those impossible chakra that sukura her self said that...
 

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So plot soloed logic, again?

Genjutsu has rules. A person uses their chakra to manipulate and control the brain of another person. The way to escape said control varies.
Dojutsu : Sharingan, Rinnegan, Byakugan
Chakra disruption either internal or external
Physical pain
Casting genjutsu on a person already caught (Itachi and Sauske vs Kabuto fight)


The movie didn't show Sakura using any of the aforementioned methods to escape Toneri's genjutsu. Only stating Sakura is resistant, which is vague and yet people keep citing this feat for Sakura, but no one can explain how it worked. Just hey, the plot of a movie said Sakura was resistant, so don't question how.
Byakugan doesn't escape genjutsu.it see genjutsu not dispel it . (There's a difference between knowing they are in a genjutsu and breaking it)
 

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Saying you can not deny "my own fiction" is pure childish...
What can sakura do with all of that ? Nothin but a copy cat ?
Naruto able to control all of those impossible chakra that sukura her self said that...

Still peddling fiction? He is able to control it because of his Sage Mode. Read, for a change anyway.
 
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Still peddling fiction? He is able to control is because of his Sage Mode. Read, for a change anyway.

Rofl, im not going to say anymore and let people judging you out of this low iq comment...
 
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