Is Sakura's Talent beneath Tsunade? Data-book IV puts things in Perspective!

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The full Title: Is Sakura's Talent beneath Tsunade in regards to Chakra Control and Byakugou seal? Data-book IV puts things in Perspective!

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Data book IV on Sakura's Talent and Byakogou Sousou Saisei's Mechanics:


Sakura

Sakura had the same chakra control and talent as Tsunade, and before long it blossomed.

Talks about the rules of being a medic and how the medic should naturally stay out of the front lines. Except when they have the Ninjutsu "Sousou Saisei Byakugou". Sakura adopted the Jutsu due to her incredible talent. The ability to surpass ones own self healing, and heal ones own wounds right on the spot, that's the power "Sousou Sisei Byakgou"

The weapon that Sakura has that that the enemy should fear is her Herculean strength.

Further explanation on Byakogou Sousou Saisei:

Byakogou Sousou Saisei


For several years using the highest most precise chakra control, a fixed amount is stored in the Byakugou seal. The chakra is usually put to use to regenerate the body through the Ninjutsu technique "Sousou Saisei", the combination results in the ultimate regeneration Jutsu.

The seal was able to regenerate the body, despite Tsunade chakra quantity being less than the enormous chakra quantity of Shodai Hokage.

When Ninpo "Sousou Saisei" is used at the same time as "Byakugou no Jutsu", it becomes possible to use it (Sousou Saisei) over a long period of time. When one’s life is affected by grave wounds pushed to the point where they'd normally die; one’s body is instantly returned to an unwounded condition. Than it just talks about the rules of medical ninjutsu where broken with the completion of such a marvelous Ninjutsu as this.

Release the chakra stored in ones forehead. Wounds completely recover, while at the same time ones own power rises*, however cell division quickens, which shortens ones life span.

So what did the facts created by the author tell us:

1) Sakura has the same talent and smarts as Tsunade. Check.
2) Byakogou Sousou Saisei is the result of the pinnacle of chakra control. Check.
3) It instantly heals wounds. Check.
4) When Ninpo "Sousou Saisei" is used at the same time as "Byakugou no Jutsu", it becomes possible to use it (Sousou Saisei) over a long period of time. Check.
5) It's a marvelous Jutsu. Check. Naruto, you have competition everywhere. Despite the fact that the Chakra Control is a handed over ability in your Sage of the Six Paths Senjutsu mode:

Page 4 of the same thread:



Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo), Sage Justu / Ninjutsu used by Naruto.


The big header basically says it's a gift from the ancestor of shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosphical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

Top caption says that the caster has an unconcious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

Second caption says, "Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!"

Third caption says, "His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchuriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!"

The bottom left caption says, "To acquire the power of the ten tailed beasts is the same as possessing the power of the Sage of Six Paths, so it is accompanied by the same Truthseeker Orbs.

So in natural talent Sakura's CC surpasses Naruto? Oh dear! Since I dislike both characters, it'll be awesome to see people from Naruto front deny something the author has written.

By popular demand, Naruto's Rasangans fused with Bijuu chakra have also been explained:

Sage Art: Magnet Release Rasengan. It basically says that inheriting the Sage of Six Path's power made it possible for Naruto to combine Shukaku's Magnet Release with the Rasengan to amplify it with magnetic power (吸引力, different kanji from bansho ten'in).

Okay, the "Sage Art: Super Biju Rasenshuriken" section says that, after being granted the power of the Sage of Six Paths, Naruto performed this ultimate jutsu. They're "Rasenshuriken" that have been proudly infused with the "special chakra properties" (チャクラ特性, chakura tokusei) of the tailed beasts, which Naruto unleashes simultaneously through Multiple Shadow Clones. It, uh, also describes it as "the most marvelous ninjutsu of all time." (空前絶後の忍術, Kūzenzetsugo no Ninjutsu).

The caption says that it struck Kaguya's weak point, making it impossible for her to maintain her physical form. [Which is to say, it took advantage of her having the chakra of the nine tailed beasts and turned it into a weakness. -FF-Suzaku

Might as well throw Madara's Storm Release in there as well, as Jubi Jins also possess the Sage of the Six Paths powers, that allows them the same innate command and control over things. It has nothing to do with skill.

The tiny entry for Madara's Sage Art Storm Release says he's able to use it thanks to the "power of the Six Paths." It's listed as Senjutsu, not a Kekkei Genkai. I can't read the details on his Sage Art Yin Release attack.

Edit 1: Directed at those who believe Sakura has no feats, when healing and remote healing together with her seal are feats that no one in the manga is capable of: they show her mastery and control over chakra is at its pinnacle.

Healing itself involves Precise Chakra Control honed to perfection:

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That means, not only Sakura's CC without managing the seal is precise, but during the management and remote healing countless people, it deserves even more praise - Click the spoiler tag to look at the feats:

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Comparatively, Naruto is simply showing Bijuu's own control over their chakra. It has nothing to do with Naruto:

CC is nothing more than understanding of Chakra and using it properly.

- The Bijuu literally prepares steam chakra for Naruto.

- "I've prepared chakra for you Naruto."

It wouldn't kill anyone to give credit where it's due. Most of you go too far with your nonsensical bashing, as the author has shown Sakura with nearly unmatched Chakra Control and Ninjutsu prowess. If you deny this, it's simply fiction.
 
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Who cares? Naruto is a hard worker, not a talented ninja like Itachi or his pops ?

Also, we don't care, cause Naruto > Sakura with his eyes closed.
 

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Indeed, Sakura has better SELF regenerating feats than Naruto. It only makes sense, Naruto and Sasuke are juggernauts. Sasuke is the most versatile in combat and flexible, Naruto is the most destructive, and Sakura is the best healer soooooo
 

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well assuming she's trained a lot since the war ended i would think she surpassed her ya know with tsunade being her teacher and all
 

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Who cares? Naruto is a hard worker, not a talented ninja like Itachi or his pops ?

Also, we don't care, cause Naruto > Sakura with his eyes closed.

Well that wasn't the point of the thread, it's just the point out Sakura's regenerative capabilities, I'm not a fan of Sakura either but at least don't steer this into a Naru vs Saku thread because we all know Naruto can give sakura a beatdown with his eyes closed (literally with sage mode Madara didn't even need his eyes to see his opponent and Naruto is many leagues above Blind sage mode Madara so Naruto doesn't need his eyes). But I can admit that Sakura has the best regenerative feats of team 7, that much isn't debatable.
 

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Who cares? Naruto is a hard worker, not a talented ninja like Itachi or his pops ?

Also, we don't care, cause Naruto > Sakura with his eyes closed.

If you didn't care, then why did you comment? This isn't Naruto versus Sakura thread. Take it to the versus section. It is about her natural talents in CC. Something that gets ignored constantly on NB.
 

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Well that wasn't the point of the thread, it's just the point out Sakura's regenerative capabilities, I'm not a fan of Sakura either but at least don't steer this into a Naru vs Saku thread because we all know Naruto can give sakura a beatdown with his eyes closed (literally with sage mode Madara didn't even need his eyes to see his opponent and Naruto is many leagues above Blind sage mode Madara so Naruto doesn't need his eyes). But I can admit that Sakura has the best regenerative feats of team 7, that much isn't debatable.

Actually, I think the point is how Kishi stated through the Databook how Sakura is as talented as her master, or even better.
Beside that, again, by providing Databook's pages and quoting some of Naruto's cloak jutsu data, he concludes Sakura is more talented in chakra control than Naruto.
Edited.

I think...
 

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Actually, I think the point is how Kishi stated through the Databook how Sakura is as talented as her master, or even better.
Beside that, again, by providing Databook's pages and quoting some of Naruto's cloak jutsu data, he concludes Sakura is more talented in chakra control than Naruto.
Edited.

I think...

Correct.
 

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So in natural talent Sakura's CC surpasses Naruto? Oh dear! Since I dislike both characters, it'll be awesome to see people from Naruto front deny something the author has written.

If you didn't care, then why did you comment? This isn't Naruto versus Sakura thread. Take it to the versus section. It is about her natural talents in CC. Something that gets ignored constantly on NB.

Cause your attitude like in 1st quote pisses me off. Why would we even deny it ? It's as if you're trying to achieve a flame war or sth. :rage:

OT: I don't disagree about her CC being better than Naruto's.
 
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Cause your attitude like in 1st quote pisses me off. Why would we even deny it ? It's as if you're trying to achieve a flame war or sth. :rage:

Good, it should. No one is trying to start a flame war. You read it that way? Too bad, I don't care.
 

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An interesting and enlightening thread.
 

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By feats, I don't think there is a comparison.
 

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Ah the denials. I would gladly take the DBs statement over anyone's claims.
 

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Thanks for sharing, this was pretty obvious if you ask me, with the whole theme of the new generation surpassing the old, so just like her teammates, Sakura also surpassed her master, Tsunade. It's just that there is an abundance of Sakura haters and people who deny any positive trait or feat she displays.

Let's see what haters can come up with this time. :lol
 

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In no way does this proof that sakura's control> naruto. Naruto could preform rasengan at 12 which is the highest level of chakra manipulation, and In fact he passed that level the moment he invented rasen shuriken which is a rasengan that is added to fuuton chakra, so yeah naruto>>>>> the highest level :cool:

Byakougo is a jutsu, just because its description says thay doesn't mean that everyone could use it at that level.

Tsunade still>>>> sakura. This only proofs that they're equal in chakra control
 
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Yes it does, non debatable. The dofference between Sakura and Tsunade is that Sakura chakra control can be channeled mentally, even when unlocking seals.
 

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Understanding chakra doesn't equal chakra control lel

Some say sakura did yin seal (whatever the self healing one name is) without seals as well.
 

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In no way does this proof that sakura's control> naruto. Naruto could preform rasengan at 12 which is the highest level of chakra manipulation, and In fact he passed that level the moment he invented rasen shuriken which is a rasengan that is added to fuuton chakra, so yeah naruto>>>>> the highest level :cool:

Byakougo is a jutsu, just because its description says thay doesn't mean that everyone could use it at that level.

Tsunade still>>>> sakura. This only proofs that they're equal in chakra control

Yeah, thank you for reminding me about that. Op has been edited as those Rasangans are also a product of this mode and the CC it allows. Sorry, if you don't agree then you are going against the author. You are welcome to believe whatever you want. Just because Naruto fans want to stare at the grey wall of logic, doesn't mean all of us have to agree.

Understanding chakra doesn't equal chakra control lel

Some say sakura did yin seal (whatever the self healing one name is) without seals as well.

It outright states it. Those blinders have got to be glued on or something.
 

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I've never understood why so many people say that Naruto is much better at chakra control than Sakura. Naruto manages more chakra because he has access to more chakra but Sakura has better control.
 

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I've never understood why so many people say that Naruto is much better at chakra control than Sakura. Naruto manages more chakra because he has access to more chakra but Sakura has better control.
Shape Manupilation is an advanced form of chakra control, which Naruto has a mastery of.

I believe that's why, given his feats and all.
 
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