Is sage mode the perfect counter to ftg?

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Still, ftg users speed are top tier, and normally faster than sm users



Not necessarily, except for ftg, other s/t jutsu's can still be used as a surprise attack because they are still instant

No, they aren't instant. Kamui requires the user to materialize before striking and kamui snipe requires focus. Sasuke's S/T tech definitely isn't instant, kaguya proved this already.

Sage Mode is indeed the ultimate counter for S/T techs, nice thread op.
 

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Still, ftg users speed are top tier, and normally faster than sm users



Not necessarily, except for ftg, other s/t jutsu's can still be used as a surprise attack because they are still instant

FTG attacks are nowhere near instant, the teleportation depends on the reaction time of the person using it. Unless the user has nanosecond reaction time, FTG is nothing but instant movement. Not instant attacking
 

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Only Hashirama's and Rikudou SM. I don't believe frog sage mode is capable of reacting to ftg
 

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Still, ftg users speed are top tier, and normally faster than sm users
Their speed is rendered obsolete against senjutsu-enhanced reaction speed.[ ]

Not necessarily, except for ftg, other s/t jutsu's can still be used as a surprise attack because they are still instant
Two words: Striking speed

No, they aren't instant. Kamui requires the user to materialize before striking and kamui snipe requires focus. Sasuke's S/T tech definitely isn't instant, kaguya proved this already.

Sage Mode is indeed the ultimate counter for S/T techs, nice thread op.
Rinnegan Shifting (Sasuke's S/T tech) is instant; his striking speed, however, is not.
 

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No, it depends on the ninja's base skills since Senjutsu enhances that and if it's too low then even with Sensory, you wouldn't be able to dodge. It's different to focus on the enemy coming at you and use your sensory ability to help you time when to evade to someone instantly appearing and have fast base speed as well. FTG can also be utilize in different ways as well.

Well the only ones with perfect Sage Mode are Naruto, Hashirama, Kabuto, and Madara through Hashirama anyway. Pretty sure these guys can react to FTG, just like Madara did with Tobirama.
 

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Well the only ones with perfect Sage Mode are Naruto, Hashirama, Kabuto, and Madara through Hashirama anyway. Pretty sure these guys can react to FTG, just like Madara did with Tobirama.

Correction Current Naruto has Ultimate SM.
 

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Not really. A technique can't be a counter to another. It depends on users. SM allows to sense your environment better and for proficient user capable to sense upcoming attacks split of seconds before it happens and eventhen it also depends on the SM user's proficiency concerning the amount of split of seconds the attack can be predicted in advance(1/10 of second? 1/20 of second?).

And eventhen, noticing an attack split of seconds before it happens doesn't prove the SM user possess sufficient reactive capacities to counter. It's basically the lesson Lee taught to 2tomoe Sasuke in part1. He could read Lee's next attacks split of seconds in advance, but his body wasn't fast enough to counter-attack/block in time. Same thing happens here. If the SM user doesn't possess enough reflexes to counter, even if he sees through an attack splits of seconds before it happens, he may not have the capacity to react in time

Example: Let's say his SM allows him to sense attacks 1/10 of seconds before it happens, but if the nervous system of the SM user himself only allows him to react 1/20 of second after the information comes to the brain, he still won't be able to block the attack. It's for that reason we've examples like Edo Madara being capable to counter blitz BSM Naruto, alive Madara being capable to blitz SM Naruto, Jiraya having his arm cut in half by Shurado, SM Minato being outclassed by Madara Jin and so on

If the FTG user has reaction speed faster than the SM user, he would still blitz the SM user regardless of his precognition ability
 
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