[Discussion] Is Oda still flexing Luffy's power from his training?

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I know he's always been the strongest and will continue to be the strongest, but for the past 3 main event fights of his (with Hodi, Caesar and Don Chinjao), I noticed something extremely interesting.

Luffy has only taken 2 hits the entire Timeskip, the whole 140 chapters, neither of which were critical hits. The first hit was the shark tooth screw thing from Hodi, (which he shrugged off), and the second was with Caesar, (which he again, shrugged even even easier, though the side effect of stealing air did get him later). Correct me if I'm wrong on this though, I feel like I'm missing something major.

I think this may be why some people are not as satisfied as they were with Part 1. Luffy is too OP, there's no struggle in his fights any more, no suspense. It's all flexing and gloating, he has no difficulty with his opponents these days.

I think this is do to him gaining ALL of his powerups, enough to last him 3 timeskips through 1. He learned how to use all of his Haki's to pretty much weaken all DF users around him, combine them with Gear techs, and access Gear modes without stress or shrinking anymore. And his reflex game is on point to say the least.

Has this been a problem for you, Luffy's fights still being all too easy?
Or have you noticed this?
Do you think this will change with the Doflamingo fight? (if thats already happening then just ignore this)
 

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Well he's still fighting fodder. From the way things are going, he may fight Doffy, which means he'll be more than going all out.
 

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Fishman Island was just a warm-up for the SHs. Zoro one-shotted Hody UNDERWATER. Didn't expect him too do much against Luffy.

When fighting Caesar, Luffy had anitbodies against alot of poison(because of Magellan) and Casear relied too much on his devil fruit. It was bad match up. Caesar wasn't even the strongest enemy on Punk Hazard(it was Vergo).

Against Chinjao, he was severly handicapp. His drillhead was gone and he was past his prime. Luffy still had to use gear 2nd and 3rd to beat him.

So far, Luffy always had the advantage before he fought because of one reason or another. Against DD, there are no advantages for Luffy.
 

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I feel the same way but there so may villains on that island right now, Dolflamingo,admiral and don't forget about Big moma. so I think that will make things right.
 

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Well he's still fighting fodder. From the way things are going, he may fight Doffy, which means he'll be more than going all out.
I'm betting on this fight too. I think Doff is also hiding some Haki up his sleeves. Or will introduce the concept of Haki resistance and stand up to Luffys Haki.

Fishman Island was just a warm-up for the SHs. Zoro one-shotted Hody UNDERWATER. Didn't expect him too do much against Luffy.

When fighting Caesar, Luffy had anitbodies against alot of poison(because of Magellan) and Casear relied too much on his devil fruit. It was bad match up. Caesar wasn't even the strongest enemy on Punk Hazard(it was Vergo).

Against Chinjao, he was severly handicapp. His drillhead was gone and he was past his prime. Luffy still had to use gear 2nd and 3rd to beat him.

So far, Luffy always had the advantage before he fought because of one reason or another. Against DD, there are no advantages for Luffy.
There will always be constraints and prerequisites for all fights, but still, a fights a fight.

And so far Luffy has been slaughtering these hoes.

I agree with all you're saying though, which brings me to the point of Luffy being simply op. I believe he could've beat Vergo though.
But about Chinjao... I think he only had to use Gear 3rd to close the size gap between them.
 
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There will always be constraints and prerequisites for all fights, but still, a fights a fight.

And so far Luffy has been slaughtering these hoes.

I agree with all you're saying though, which brings me to the point of Luffy being simply op. I believe he could've beat Vergo though.
But about Chinjao... I think he only had to use Gear 3rd to close the size gap between them.

Yeah Luffy is on a winning streak right now. It kinda lowers the sense of danger if he wins all the time in such a low-mid difficulty fasion.

Sanji outmatched Vergo but had to retreat because his haki wasn't good enough to defend against Vergo's kicks. If you look at the fight, you can see that Sanji was the only one to land clean hits but didn't have the endurance to fight Vergo. Luffy would've definately beat Vergo.

Luffy used "Red Hawk"(you can see steam coming from Luffy's arm) but Chinjao tanked it. It was only one small panel so its understandable if you missed it. Luffy had to use gear 3rd to counter Chinjao's flat headbutt. If Chinjao had his drillhead, Luffy would've messed up his own arm. Remember that it took Prime Garp and his strongest punch and knock Chinjao's drillhead in.
 

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doesn't bother me personally only because he hasn't faced any serious threats yet. i'm sure his upcoming fights will push him into a corner, enemies coming up aren't ones he can fodderize.
 
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None of the monster trio have gone even nearly all out yet after the TS, but that's not needed because its mainly a story and not anfight driven manga, there don't need to be flashy struggling battles all the time, if Luffy had trouble with the opponents he fought so far they would be in serious trouble in the rest of the NW

It was very similar at the start of OP, it looks like Dofy will be the Crocodile like Opponent of the NW (ie first real hurdle)
 
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His new power will be to look even more like a kid
 

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Dont worry my friend Doflamingo will push him to the limits.
 

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probably a nice lil taste of conquerors haki between him and Doffy which should be fun
 

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Luffy used "Red Hawk"(you can see steam coming from Luffy's arm) but Chinjao tanked it. It was only one small panel so its understandable if you missed it. Luffy had to use gear 3rd to counter Chinjao's flat headbutt. If Chinjao had his drillhead, Luffy would've messed up his own arm. Remember that it took Prime Garp and his strongest punch and knock Chinjao's drillhead in.

Thats a pretty dumb analysis if Luffy is strong enough to bring back the cone head he is also strong enough toC dent it back. Luffy in my opinion casually beat DCJ and had the superior haki as shown twice

Hawk rifle-Penetrates DCJ haki and like you said it didn't have any flames
Thor Gun-Reforms DCJ head and puts him to sleep
 

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I enjoy watching the SHs stomp people now. We had all that struggling with the first part of the series. Now it's time for easy wins, at least against opponents he would have really struggled with before, but the fights which Luffy and co do struggle with now will be a whole lot more epic since it will be against people that are close to Admiral level.

And Luffy cannot win against Doflamingo, imo, without some sort of help ;)
 

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Yeah Luffy is on a winning streak right now. It kinda lowers the sense of danger if he wins all the time in such a low-mid difficulty fasion.

Sanji outmatched Vergo but had to retreat because his haki wasn't good enough to defend against Vergo's kicks. If you look at the fight, you can see that Sanji was the only one to land clean hits but didn't have the endurance to fight Vergo. Luffy would've definately beat Vergo.

Luffy used "Red Hawk"(you can see steam coming from Luffy's arm) but Chinjao tanked it. It was only one small panel so its understandable if you missed it. Luffy had to use gear 3rd to counter Chinjao's flat headbutt. If Chinjao had his drillhead, Luffy would've messed up his own arm. Remember that it took Prime Garp and his strongest punch and knock Chinjao's drillhead in.

When the anime comes out I will reminisce you with this post because I think Luffy used rifle.. just a spinning punch he used when he 1st fought Blueno...
 

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This is a good thing. It shows that Luffy is beyond the level of fodders like Caesar and Hody. The only people that can threaten the SH crew now are the top Shichibukai, Yonkou, and some VA's they are beyond the level of some basically no name people like Caesar and Hody.
 

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I think you're mistaken. Haki doesn't weaken Luffy's enemies. I take it you're not quite caught up yet. Because if you were you would know that Luffy is in for one hell of a fight very soon. And it's easy to tell that he is going to need to go all out if he is to defeat Doffy.

Luffy is too OP for you now though!? What about the remaining 400 ish chapters to go?

Wasn't Luffy too OP for his first 4 main enemies in Part 1? He low diffed them all(Morgan, Alvida, Buggy and Kuro). And mid diffed Don Krieg. I suppose the same or at least similar is happening again before we see Luffy getting his ass handed to him by someone with similar Caliber to an Admiral or Yonkou (*Cough* Kaidou *Cough*)
 
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Doffy will be hist first real challenge after the TS, and i cannot wait until luffy punches the crap out of doffy.
 
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