Is Naruto way the arrival of true peace?

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Many Naruto Fans claim Naruto route as the way to true peace as the one and only way to accomplish true peace but wasn't Hashirama's and Ashura's way just as Naruto's and they failed miserable in accomplishing that? The will of Fire per se.
Just asking because Naruto did have his chance in accomplishing peace as Ashura through Ashura and Hashirama and maybe many other transmigrants.
Wouldn't Sasuke deserve a chance to establish peace as Indra never had a chance in neither transmigrants?
 
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I think the point is for the two sides to come together to create true peace like hagaromo intended. Instead indra's side has always wanted to take control by it's self. Madara with IT and sasuke with what he is doing. Naruto said him and sasuke were good friends he wants them to create peace together as hashirama wanted with madara. Do you see how the cycle goes?
 

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We dont know exactly if naruto will go the same route as hashirama. They might have the same ideals but that doesnt mean they will have the same action. Plus true peace is a process that is worked for it wouldnt happen the first or second time. Its pretty much supporting the fact that no matter what domt give up on what you believe in.
 

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I think the point is for the two sides to come together to create true peace like hagaromo intended. Instead indra's side has always wanted to take control by it's self. Madara with IT and sasuke with what he is doing. Naruto said him and sasuke were good friends he wants them to create peace together as hashirama wanted with madara. Do you see how the cycle goes?

Yes I agree Both Naruto and Sasuke's way need to come together to create peace. It's the only way.


We dont know exactly if naruto will go the same route as hashirama. They might have the same ideals but that doesnt mean they will have the same action. Plus true peace is a process that is worked for it wouldnt happen the first or second time. Its pretty much supporting the fact that no matter what domt give up on what you believe in.
Well Naruto's and Ashura's way has been described as the way of love while Indra's and Sasuke's the way of power. I mean Hashirama had a 50 year time period where Madara left where he could initiate his way of peace but it still failed through the wars and Danzo/Uchiha. So I think Naruto and Sasuke's way combined is the only way of peace.
 

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OP, what exactly IS Narutoʻs way/plan to achieving true peace? From what Iʻve seen he hasnʻt had one, he got asked the question by nagato, and he just said ʻif there is such a thing as true peace iʻll find itʻ as in he didnʻt have the answer yet but was going to keep on looking for it.

Also, while we are at it, what is your definition of ʻtrue peaceʻ?
 

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OP, what exactly IS Narutoʻs way/plan to achieving true peace? From what Iʻve seen he hasnʻt had one, he got asked the question by nagato, and he just said ʻif there is such a thing as true peace iʻll find itʻ as in he didnʻt have the answer yet but was going to keep on looking for it.

Also, while we are at it, what is your definition of ʻtrue peaceʻ?
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What are you talking about? Naruto's way Has always been the passage of forgiveness and love as seen with almost all the villians so far.

Forgiving the enemy.

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Or loving his friends.

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Also the Sage at one time entrusted Ashura way and it failed. Why it wouldn't fail again? He then entrusted both and it failed. Wouldn't it be time he entrust Indra's reincarnation?

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And Nagato said he believed in the passage Naruto choose which was peace, forgiveness and Love.

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Logically, no. By shonen logic, yes. Everyone will mindlessly band-wagon around a 16 year old kid in an orange jumpsuit... In the real world, yeah no way. Manga... yeah sure.
 

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Sorry for the late reply was busy.

What are you talking about? Naruto's way Has always been the passage of forgiveness and love as seen with almost all the villians so far.

Forgiving the enemy.

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Or loving his friends.

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Also the Sage at one time entrusted Ashura way and it failed. Why it wouldn't fail again? He then entrusted both and it failed. Wouldn't it be time he entrust Indra's reincarnation?

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And Nagato said he believed in the passage Naruto choose which was peace, forgiveness and Love.

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Thatʻs narutoʻs ninja way, in otherwords, thatʻs the moral code that naruto lives by, however thatʻs obviously NOT his answer to true peace that nagato talked about:
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Also, Naruto isnʻt asura like he literally said in the last chapter.
 
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I'm honestly not sure Naruto has any answer aside from "Believe it". Sasuke has an answer, it's just not one most people like. I think we'll get a compromise. The nations will prolly get dissolved and the TB will get sealed away or something or leave with Nardo/Sauce.

I think believing in other people is Naruto's answer. Sasuke's answer is that you can't believe in people. Given the history of the world, Sasuke is undeniably right
 
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Thatʻs narutoʻs ninja way, in otherwords, thatʻs the moral code that naruto lives by, however thatʻs obviously NOT his answer to true peace that nagato talked about:
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But doesn't his actions and deeds describes the way of Ashura's and the way I describe to you just now. It's the same path honestly and as before Most likely will fail. Only a combination of Ashura and Indra shall succeed.
 

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But doesn't his actions and deeds describes the way of Ashura's and the way I describe to you just now. It's the same path honestly and as before Most likely will fail. Only a combination of Ashura and Indra shall succeed.
At best it describes what Asura and Naruto believe is morally right and what an individual can do in order to better the world towards their goal of ʻtrue peace.ʻ However, is that their ʻplanʻ to bring the world to peace, just to live their lives by their ninja way? I donʻt think that was ever stated.

I also donʻt see why you can claim ʻit will most likely failʻ. First off, the entire thing between asura and indra was constructed by BZ in an attempt to get kaguya back. Next, history is still being written and you can literally see amazing progress from the wars of hashiramaʻs time to how the five great nations get along now. As hashirama told madara ʻno one said it would be easyʻ, just because it hasnʻt happened yet doesnʻt mean that Asuraʻs way wasnʻt the most correct or right posited.
 

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At best it describes what Asura and Naruto believe is morally right and what an individual can do in order to better the world towards their goal of ʻtrue peace.ʻ However, is that their ʻplanʻ to bring the world to peace, just to live their lives by their ninja way? I donʻt think that was ever stated.

I also donʻt see why you can claim ʻit will most likely failʻ. First off, the entire thing between asura and indra was constructed by BZ in an attempt to get kaguya back. Next, history is still being written and you can literally see amazing progress from the wars of hashiramaʻs time to how the five great nations get along now. As hashirama told madara ʻno one said it would be easyʻ, just because it hasnʻt happened yet doesnʻt mean that Asuraʻs way wasnʻt the most correct or right posited.
It was never stated that Black Zetsu constructed the relationship between Ashura and Indra. It was only stated he approach both parties in the assumption of reviving his mother Kaguya. Also as an Ashura descendent, Naruto's philosophy and way of thinking has been similar to his ancestors even stated by Hagoromo. He entrusted Ashura with the power to carry out his way and it failed. Now he split it to both and it still failed.

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Ashura's way to peace sounds nice on paper, but the truth is people will always disagree. There has to be conflict in the world. I think the curse of hatred will be broken, but Nardo will lose the "moral" war in the sense that the TB gotta go.
 
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