[Discussion] Is Naruto is close to JJ Hagoromo's level?

Is he close to the Sage's level?


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Naruto has the both the body of the Sage and the tailed beast on his side. All that he is missing is the eyes. So he should around his level of raw power.
 
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He may have the potential. But he lacks the know how. This type of match comes down to experience, not raw power, seeing how they are both in a sense equal.

So Hagoromo still wins. But may e an adult Naruto would beat him, when he becomes more mastered over his powers
 

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He may have the potential. But he lacks the know how. This type of match comes down to experience, not raw power, seeing how they are both in a sense equal.

So Hagoromo still wins. But may e an adult Naruto would beat him, when he becomes more mastered over his powers

I'm not talking about who would win in a fight.
 

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he is close, but not very close. As the chosen one will he without doubt surpass hagoromo
 

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naruto >sasuke.
hes half i guess
 

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Not even close JJ Hagoromo stomps Naruto no or low diff.

Naruto has just half of power of Prime Hagoromo before he became Jinchurki.

JJ Hagoromo is close to Kaguya, he has yin and yang. Naruto doesn't have even full Tailed beasts as Kaguya has them.

Hagoromo's experience/ mind and yin abilities make Naruto like skilled child in face of skilled adult
 

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I don't think Naruto is on that level yet. In my opinion the best way to think about Naruto and Sasuke's power right now are perfected versions of Indra and Ashura who have finally obtained their birthright from their father. However, I don't think that Naruto and Sasuke have reached their full power yet, and they have a couple of new power ups coming that should allow they to individually rival Hagoromo and Hamura at max power, and give them the ability to defeat a fully powered Kaguya.

It's seems pretty obvious from Sasuke's design that his power is incomplete as he only has the rinnegan in his left eye. I think Naruto is similarly incomplete as he only has one half of the kyuubi. These are likely their next power ups. In that case though Naruto would still be below Juubi Jin Hagoromo and Sasuke would still be below a max power Hamura, as Naruto would have no eye power and Sasuke would have no body power.

I think it's very likely that Hamura will eventually show up, as we need to learn more about him, and it's possible that at that point he will gift Naruto and Sasuke with his power just as Hagoromo did. Many people have speculated on the Nature of the clans that descended from Hamura, but I am of the opinion that the most likely are the Hyuuga along with Juugo's clan because of their Sage Transformation. So I imagine that Hamura could give Naruto Byakugan, and Sasuke a powerful sage transformation so that both Naruto and Sasuke can have eye and body powers without them stepping into one another's territory.

If I were to map it out in tiers it would look something like this.

Reincarnation Tier

Indra
Ashura
EMS Sasuke
BSM Naruto
Hashirama
EMS Madara
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Imperfect Sage Power Tier

Juubi Jin Obito
RSM Naruto
Single Rinnegan Sasuke
Double Rinnegan Living Madara (No RSM)
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Controlled Sage Power Tier

Full Kyuubi RSM Naruto
Double Rinnegan Sasuke
Triple Rinnegan RSM Madara
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Perfect Sage Tier

RSM Hagoromo
Hamura
Byakugan Full Kyuubi RSM Naruto
Double Rinnegan Sage transformation Sasuke
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Kaguya Tier

Kaguya - May need fruit to reach completed power


This is just my opinion, but I believe I can support it with Manga facts eventually. Also there are plenty of other ways Kishi could take the story so all future power-ups are just speculation on my part. Also the tiers don't indicate any ranking within them, just rough levels of power.
 

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neither of them is close to his powers.
Maybe madara,naruto and sasuke combined would come "close to his powers" but even then i doubt it.

Remember, JJ so6p had a FULL juubi in him, right now, they all are playing with HALF juubi.
Other HALF became the moon.

So yeah, naruto alone is not even close.
Maybe madara,naruto and sasuke combined make 40% of his power or so, just a wild guess.
 

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I don't think so but 3 rinningan madara is as strong as hagromo if not stronger
 

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Not even close JJ Hagoromo stomps Naruto no or low diff.

Naruto has just half of power of Prime Hagoromo before he became Jinchurki.

JJ Hagoromo is close to Kaguya, he has yin and yang. Naruto doesn't have even full Tailed beasts as Kaguya has them.

Hagoromo's experience/ mind and yin abilities make Naruto like skilled child in face of skilled adult

Actually, Naruto does have full pieces of the tailed beast. Re-read chapter 671 where the tailed beast appear in front of him in their full forms. Remember, Naruto regrow body parts.
 

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neither of them is close to his powers.
Maybe madara,naruto and sasuke combined would come "close to his powers" but even then i doubt it.

Remember, JJ so6p had a FULL juubi in him, right now, they all are playing with HALF juubi.
Other HALF became the moon.

So yeah, naruto alone is not even close.
Maybe madara,naruto and sasuke combined make 40% of his power or so, just a wild guess.

Naruto currently has, Half power from Sage + Ashura's chakra/power (which is in itself about half of the sage + The power of the 9 bijuu + Perfect Sage mode.

He is pretty damn close to JJ Hago, definitely passed non JJ Hago
 

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Naruto currently has, Half power from Sage + Ashura's chakra/power (which is in itself about half of the sage + The power of the 9 bijuu + Perfect Sage mode.

He is pretty damn close to JJ Hago, definitely passed non JJ Hago

it does prove nothing.

Prime jj Hagoromo had full Complete Juubi. the strogest yin and yang. Naruto is nowhere close.
JJ Hagoromo would beat Naruto low diff. Do not overrate Naruto.

Naruto got: half power post jin old Hagoromo + tailed beasts, just it. JJ Hagoromo is much sttronger

Jin Hagoromo >> Prime Hagoromo > Old Hagoromo
 
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it does prove nothing.

Prime jj Hagoromo had full Complete Juubi. the strogest yin and yang. Naruto is nowhere close.
Jj Hagoromo would beat Naruto low diff. Do not overrate Naruto.

Naruto got: half power post jin old hagoeomo + tailed beasts, jyst it. JJ Hagoromo is much sttronger

naruto is doing ok against someone stronger than the sage
 

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naruto is doing ok against someone stronger than the sage

so what Past Kaguya >> Current Kaguya

Past Kaguya had more chakra on her own(look lack of yin Kurama in body Kaguya has now), also she had more chakra because Hagoromo didn't spread it on such great scale.

Besides JJ Hagoromo is very close or on par with Kaguya wether you like it or no.

Kaguya got nerfed and besides She was too much playing against them, which show how not skilled she is in compare to JJ Hagoromo or Naruto.
 

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Actually, the God Tree absorbed yin Kurama's chakra when Obito summoned it.
 

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Actually, the God Tree absorbed yin Kurama's chakra when Obito summoned it.

Some of it , yeah but not completly. Just one amount of chakra which Minato has used to deactivate his cloak. Nothing big in my eyes
 

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it does prove nothing.

Prime jj Hagoromo had full Complete Juubi. the strogest yin and yang. Naruto is nowhere close.
JJ Hagoromo would beat Naruto low diff. Do not overrate Naruto.

Naruto got: half power post jin old Hagoromo + tailed beasts, just it. JJ Hagoromo is much sttronger

Jin Hagoromo >> Prime Hagoromo > Old Hagoromo

You are still neglecting Ashura + Perfect Sage mode.
 

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To be honest we haven't seen anything from Hagoromo, exactly like Prime Hiruzen.. :rolleyes:
 
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