Is Naruto and Kakashi more of a genius than Minato?

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Naruto mastering rasengan way beyond Minato could, and Naruto is just about half his age
He defeated people who Minato cant stand too like Nagato and 3rd Raikage(sure he had some help)

Both of there arsenals are not very big though

Kakashi the copy ninja jonin at age 13 and also was temporarily in the anbu black ops

Kakashi even learned rasengan which was created by his sensei
And created his own jutsu that rivals his, known as the lightning blade

Copied over 1000 jutsus
One of most versatile ninjas out there
Knowing Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, Taijutsu and has a summonings
This guy even knows the gates
Plus hes no stranger to seals either
Also one of most smartest Ninjas out there

He took on half of Akatsuki, all of which has complimented him on his skill
Now in the war hes displays remarkable talent
I personally dont see Minato beating Kakashi now
As a 13 year old, Minato had to concentrate against Kakashi
And that was when he was arrogant and proud

Kakashi now has a steady head on his shoulders and is way stronger with a larger arsenal then he use to
 
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naruto yes.
kakashi no. given time, like 10 years kakashi'll surpass minato.
however let's not forget when minato died he wasn't even 30. if he had time too, minato could really have become a legend
 

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No way man! Minato was so famous that people heard about him every where! he took down a whole army in a matter of seconds! It's like chicago's cold weather, people never been there but heard of the weather!
 

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naruto- I'll give him that because his innovative and surprising tactics he comes up with in the heat of battle while kakashi is close xd
 

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naruto yes.
kakashi no. given time, like 10 years kakashi'll surpass minato.
however let's not forget when minato died he wasn't even 30. if he had time too, minato could really have become a legend
I would more say Kakashi surpass than Naruto

I dont see what Minato could do against Kakashi now
Even FTG wouldnt bw too effective since he has sharingan and with knowlege
 

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No way man! Minato was so famous that people heard about him every where! he took down a whole army in a matter of seconds! It's like chicago's cold weather, people never been there but heard of the weather!
A fodder army
Kakashi in a war now fighting top notch ninjas
The 7 ninja swordsman can take out a fodder army too
 

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I would more say Kakashi surpass than Naruto

I dont see what Minato could do against Kakashi now
Even FTG wouldnt bw too effective since he has sharingan and with knowlege
yeah kakashi can hold his ground against ftg but right now we're not matching those two.
overall minato is still better, not for long though.
 

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Naruto mastering rasengan way beyond Minato could, and Naruto is just about half his age
He defeated people who Minato cant stand too like Nagato and 3rd Raikage(sure he had some help)

Both of there arsenals are not very big though

Kakashi the copy ninja jonin at age 13 and also was temporarily in the anbu black ops

Kakashi even learned rasengan which was created by his sensei
And created his own jutsu that rivals his, known as the lightning blade

Copied over 1000 jutsus
One of most versatile ninjas out there
Knowing Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, Taijutsu and has a summonings
This guy even knows the gates
Plus hes no stranger to seals either
Also one of most smartest Ninjas out there

He took on half of Akatsuki, all of which has complimented him on his skill
Now in the war hes displays remarkable talent
I personally dont see Minato beating Kakashi now
As a 13 year old, Minato had to concentrate against Kakashi
And that was when he was arrogant and proud

Kakashi now has a steady head on his shoulders and is way stronger with a larger arsenal then he use to
Yes but keep in mind the difference between creating a new jutsu and learning one. And also keep in mind that Naruto was capable of developing the Rasenshuriken and is able to use it because of who he is, because of his large chakra pool (along with the Kiuby chakra) otherwise, just like Kakashi said, that training method would have been useless, and the whole process would have taken a couple of years.
And take any other ninja with a regular chakra pool... for him to use 1 rasenshuriken would mean he would be almost out of chakra (3 clones + the cahra for the jutsu)

About Naruto defeating awesome opponents yeah he did, but keep in mind that Minato was also young.. and we don't know the full extent of his abilities.

Kakashi/Naruto took and Akatsuki... Minato could have done the same thing except maybe for Nagato and Itachi (don't wanna go there right now)
 

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I don't believe naruto is more of a genius than Minato or Kakashi. Other then developing Jutsus and having great ability Kakashi was put into Anbu and Minato became Hokage. The only reason Naruto is significantly a "strong" character is only because of Kurama. If you take Kurama out of the picture Naruto isnt a splendid ninja at all.
 

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no naruto and kakashi are not genius than minato coz minato has developed many jutsu and he is genius for that ,i like kakashi but hes specialty is copying jutsu and talking about naruto though he is a hero but he still a dumb ass...
 
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