Is Naruto a hypocrite?

[Deadmed]

He basically calls Momoshiki a loser for "dopeing" on his chakra pills for strength. But what does that make Naruto for using Kurama as a living battery to fuel his jutsu of mass destruction? What about Hagaromo's power boost? What does the external energy source being in pill form change? Maybe the real meaning got lost in translation or maybe I'm missing something.

I answered my own question so read my new thread here:

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[SZiaee]

When Naruto uses others' chakra ; it's fine
But when others use a chakra source ; it's wrong . :elmo:
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Kishi and Ike didn't think when writing that panel

 

[Namar]

He basically calls Momoshiki a loser for "dopeing" on his chakra pills for strength. But what does that make Naruto for using Kurama as a living battery to fuel his jutsu of mass destruction? What about Hagaromo's power boost? What does the external energy source being in pill form change? Maybe the real meaning got lost in translation or maybe I'm missing something.

Yo, are you willing to trash Naruto that much ?

Geez... Naruto and the beasts are one....

Sasuke and his eyes are one....

It's the yin-yang of bodies if you wanna look at it this way.

Stop treating Naruto's completness with cheating. Cuz Sasuke's abilities are cheats too if you start to think about it... You don't see every ninja putting someone in genjutsu just by creppily starring at him, or teleporting, or reviving someone.

So, Naruto's resistant body and Kurama's help ... don't tell me they are not in the same league as Sasuke's rewriting the fate abilities or the rinnegan thing that brings fodders to life.

 

[Deadmed]

Yo, are you willing to trash Naruto that much ?

Geez... Naruto and the beasts are one....

Sasuke and his eyes are one....

It's the yin-yang of bodies if you wanna look at it this way.

Stop treating Naruto's completness with cheating. Cuz Sasuke's abilities are cheats too if you start to think about it... You don't see every ninja putting someone in genjutsu just by creppily starring at him, or teleporting, or reviving someone.

So, Naruto's resistant body and Kurama's help ... don't tell me they are not in the same league as Sasuke's rewriting the fate abilities or the rinnegan thing that brings fodders to life.

I'm saying Naruto nor Sasuke should harp on Momoshiki for using chakra boosting pills. If they hadn't relied on outside sources of power they would have been dead a long time ago.

I'm just thinking maybe the arm device and the chakra pills are different because they require no skill or cost to utilize? I guess if you look at it that way it makes more sense, but I still don't see the problem I mean I'm sure Momoshiki needed some practice to make him energy balls and shit. They could have been more clear with this but it might be a lost-in-translation issue.

 

[Jokule67]

The message was power obtained through hard work. You difnt get the message of the movie.

 

[Namar]

I'm saying Naruto nor Sasuke should harp on Momoshiki for using chakra boosting pills. If they hadn't relied on outside sources of power they would have been dead a long time ago.

I'm just thinking maybe the arm device and the chakra pills are different because they require no skill or cost to utilize? I guess if you look at it that way it makes more sense, but I still don't see the problem I mean I'm sure Momoshiki needed some practice to make him energy balls and shit. They could have been more clear with this but it might be a lost-in-translation issue.

You... don't understand don't you...

If Hagoromorisky wouldn't have scattered the 9 beasts which meant that he had to take them out of his body after he become the juubi jinchuriki. Indra would have been born with the juubi body ... (While as milk or something like that) Would you have called that a cheating power source ?......

The only reason Indra was so useless at start was because Indra was not complete from the start he lacked his power.....

Now for the transmigrantion (shit theory shit shit btw) The beasts are Naruto's property so to speak...

Recap in short words: If Hagoromo wouldn't have scattered the beasts and kept them inside then Indra would have gotten his full share instead of 50% genetics.

No cheating. If you call Naruto's power source cheats or then you have to call Sasuke a cheat for his eyes.

 

[Jokule67]

I'm saying Naruto nor Sasuke should harp on Momoshiki for using chakra boosting pills. If they hadn't relied on outside sources of power they would have been dead a long time ago.

I'm just thinking maybe the arm device and the chakra pills are different because they require no skill or cost to utilize? I guess if you look at it that way it makes more sense, but I still don't see the problem I mean I'm sure Momoshiki needed some practice to make him energy balls and shit. They could have been more clear with this but it might be a lost-in-translation issue.

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[Deadmed]

The message was power obtained through hard work. You difnt get the message of the movie.

But how does Naruto know Momoshiki didn't work hard to harness the immense power of the chakra he eats? Naruto worked hard to become skilled at controlling chakra, but he still relies heavily on chakra that isn't nessesarilt his own, namely the bijuu and hagaromo. Sasuke on the other hand didn't need to work hard to get power boosts left and right after defeating Itachi. First he simply transplanted eyes into himself awakening eternal mangekyo and then he got Hagaromo's power to unlock rinnegan. So that's basically the same as what Momoshiki is doing by using pills to make himself stronger, he isn't doing push-ups no but why does it matter sense Naruto and Sasuke owe maybe half their destructive capabilities to hard work and training.

 

[Sasuke tyeezy]

Yo, are you willing to trash Naruto that much ?

Geez... Naruto and the beasts are one....

Sasuke and his eyes are one....

It's the yin-yang of bodies if you wanna look at it this way.

Stop treating Naruto's completness with cheating. Cuz Sasuke's abilities are cheats too if you start to think about it... You don't see every ninja putting someone in genjutsu just by creppily starring at him, or teleporting, or reviving someone.

So, Naruto's resistant body and Kurama's help ... don't tell me they are not in the same league as Sasuke's rewriting the fate abilities or the rinnegan thing that brings fodders to life.

Naruto is a hypocrite.

Apparently he's the only one allowed to mooch off other's chakra.

 

[Namar]

But how does Naruto know Momoshiki didn't work hard to harness the immense power of the chakra he eats? Naruto worked hard to become skilled at controlling chakra, but he still relies heavily on chakra that isn't nessesarilt his own, namely the bijuu and hagaromo. Sasuke on the other hand didn't need to work hard to get power boosts left and right after defeating Itachi. First he simply transplanted eyes into himself awakening eternal mangekyo and then he got Hagaromo's power to unlock rinnegan. So that's basically the same as what Momoshiki is doing by using pills to make himself stronger, he isn't doing push-ups no but why does it matter sense Naruto and Sasuke owe maybe half their destructive capabilities to hard work and training.

Read my post. It's his. When you'll read my post you'll understand.

 

[Black Wizard]

Momoshiki just has to eat a pill to get powerful, Naruto trained in order to learn how to use kurama's power, there's a big difference.

 

[SZiaee]

Momoshiki just has to eat a pill to get powerful, Naruto trained in order to learn how to use kurama's power, there's a big difference.

Momoshiki has rinnegan ; it's one of his abilities to make pills . (Same for Naruto ; it's one of his abilities to use nine tails' chakra)

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Why does it look like some people think Naruto never trained for his powers?

 

[Xee Etbrkz]

Naruto manga is trash man
5.5/10

One Piece>>>>>Naruto
Oda>>>>>Kishimoto
Togashi>>>>>>Kishimoto
Toriyama>>>>>Kishimoto, so on and so forth

 

[Deadmed]

Momoshiki just has to eat a pill to get powerful, Naruto trained in order to learn how to use kurama's power, there's a big difference.

What about Sasuke's Mangekyo Sharingan? He didn't train for that at all he simply plucked Itachi's eyeballs out. And then Hagaromo basically gave them a power boost towards the end of the original manga, how is that any different than "true power with no work at all". They had worked in the past which is why they have the skills required to harness the power, but how do we know Momoshiki didn't train in the past to harness this power?

 

[Namar]

Momoshiki just has to eat a pill to get powerful, Naruto trained in order to learn how to use kurama's power, there's a big difference.

This is just a bait thread.

The OP clearly was feeling lonely and needed some attention :tadam:

 

[Mori Jin]

Butthurt OP

Naruto trained to get were he his. Beat kurama. Befriended him. Got powerful.

Momoshiki just takes chakra. Hence the doping.

 

[123fire]

Naruto manga is trash man
5.5/10

One Piece>>>>>Naruto
Oda>>>>>Kishimoto
Togashi>>>>>>Kishimoto
Toriyama>>>>>Kishimoto, so on and so forth

Yet you're here in NARUTObase

 

[Shruikan]

Why does it look like some people think Naruto never trained for his powers?

He trained for RSM?

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

He trained for RSM?

He trained to take control of Kurama.