Is MS Sasuke stronger than SM Naruto?

[Raikiri10]

Yes I'd say he certainly is. 3-Tomoe Sasuke afer training with orochimaru has comparable speed to SM Naruto, even able to keep up with Raikage in lighting armor.



Don't forget that Zetsu is working for Tobi to manipulate Sasuke and this is all well and good for Sasuke, who did not watch the fight. But I did, and i saw Naruto in SM almost die multiple times before switching to 6-tails state for most of the fight, and then give the final blow in SM.

Naruto as a whole did beat Pain, but not using just SM, and not alone.

Naruto was hammering Pain and killed his paths multiple times in SM he had the upper hand as soon as they started.

Also saying Naruto used the Kyuubi is favouritism how did Sasuke acquire his ms techniques? he certainly didn't train to get them so its a similar advantage both were given and even so i believe Naruto was stronger at that stage in time.

 

[King Of Pop]

first of all we are talking about sasuke with MS not EMS so don't go on saying that Sasuke will produce a tornado of amaterasu and susanoo Supreme and still have his eyesight . At the most he can use amaterasu once or twice (as in with killer bee) as for the susanoo, it couldnot stand the mizukage's attack so i can assume its not upto madara's level (in defense) as for the susanoo attack , SERIOUSLY HAS THE ARrOW EVER KILLED ANYONE ??? (kakashi ? danzo ? kabuto ? ) NO ! don't forget each arrrow drains him too , and susanoo causes pressure on the body,,, tsukyomi ? nah, sasuke can't use it

i will also assume that since naruto has a odd habit of making 1000s of clones ,,, sasuke won't try to burn each and every one of them / or shoot every one of them , in case of taijutsu, we have seen that naruto SM with his frog katas clearly beat out pain (the first punch) even though he had an advanced EYE (RN > MS) , with kurama as his buddy, i will also say that now ma n pa froggy can sit on naruto shoulders and gather nature chakra for him, i.e, basically infinte chakra

u aware sasuke culd manipulate amaterasu(enton) around him and use it as a defence thus if naruto engages him in taijutsu it wuld be suicide cos if he touches the flames he wuld get burned

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

Sasuke gets tired too fast when using ms. Naruto on the other hands almost never runs out of chakra during fights. With sage mode he could easily dodge Amaterasu and the susanoo arrow thanks to sage modes sensing ability and his increase in reflexes and speed like with the 3rd raikage.

 

[IlikeStrudels]

1. You forgot the part where he had to get saved from A by Gaara had to be saved again from Mei by Zetsu and then saved again from Onoki by Tobi.

2. I can say the same to when Naruto said Sasuke is stronger than him.

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You mad?

Naruto admitted Sasuke was stronger than him, who's he going to respond back to himself? :flaw:

 

[Sasuke eternal sharingan]

MS Sasuke>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SM Naruto.

 

[ChiefHermit]

MS Sasuke<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<SM Naruto.

fixed.

 

[MickNerks]

^. Thread title.


I kind of think so. I don't see SM Naruto dodging Susanoo Arrow or Amaterasu.


Not only that when SM Naruto runs out of senjutusu chakra he has to stand still to go SM. Susannoo Arrow will rip him to shreds.


Rasengans and Rasenshurikens isn't breaking thru Susanoo. If Naruto is careless and uses 2 rasenshurikens he will burn out of Sage Mode.


Summons can be easily handled with genjutsu and amaterasu. Personality wise Naruto wouldn't summon a frog if he knew it would get burned.

You really dont have proof that rasenshuriken cant break through susanoo. You are speculating that it cant because you dont want your fav character to have a weakness. This is you opininion not a fact.

As we have seen thus far a rasenshuriken can destroy a entire mountain, so what stops it from destroying susanoo. PLEASE us evidence to back up your arguments and not just fanboy theories.

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[NarutoUzumakiAki]

I think naruto he can win sasukes soosano with his bijuu mode.Anyway naruto goes so far with his own power,he killed pain owned and take kyuubis chaka without help.Itachi let Sasuke won him and take his eyes.WIthout eyes of itachi sasuke he whould be a trush

 

[Champ]

Sasuke he kills him with Amaterasu

 

[riar]

Their equal

MS=SM
EMS=KM
?=BM
Naruto has the upper hand now,but Sasuke should get another power up soon,probably Rinnegan

I think it would be the perfect susanoo like madara's

 

[riar]

Sasuke has not comparable speed with naruto.. raikage was much faster than sasuke.. and naruto is faster than the raikage x)

Naruto was faster than raikage when he ogt his control on kyubi

 

[Rafeal brown]

You really dont have proof that rasenshuriken cant break through susanoo. You are speculating that it cant because you dont want your fav character to have a weakness. This is you opininion not a fact.

As we have seen thus far a rasenshuriken can destroy a entire mountain, so what stops it from destroying susanoo. PLEASE us evidence to back up your arguments and not just fanboy theories.

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just because it can destroy an entire mountain doesn't mean it can destroy susanoo... chou oedema rasengan can destroy an entire mountain too yet it couldn't put a scratch on madara's susanoo skeleton so what makes you think frs would break susanoo?

 

[NarutoUzumakiAki]

I think that's only if the Kyuubi accepts them. Not sure how they balance it out between Kyuubi's chakra and Naruto's. Although I think we should wait until it happens.



Not really nice try though. That was when Sasuke was at his weakest. No curse mark and no susanoo yet.

Omg idiot and nnaruto he hasnt Kyuubis chakra and he didnt learn bijuu mode

 

[Berserker]

3rd Raikage is no where near as fast as Raikage. You can't even make handseals when fighting the 4th. No name fodder was able to make handseals to defend naruto against the 3rd.

Weak argument naruto supporters. U_U

 

[nightfury028]

Their equal

MS=SM
EMS=KM
?=BM
Naruto has the upper hand now,but Sasuke should get another power up soon,probably Rinnegan

Agreed.

 

[Munboy]

Naruto got KCM because he knew he'd die fighting MS Sasuke without it; Sasuke got EMS because he knew that he'd die fighting SM Naruto without it.

That suggests SM Naruto=MS Sasuke.

 

[Berserker]

Omg idiot and nnaruto he hasnt Kyuubis chakra and he didnt learn bijuu mode

I'm just saying Ma and Pa never fused with Naruto. No point in using it in a debate when we haven't seen it yet.

 

[Berserker]

Naruto got KCM because he knew he'd die fighting MS Sasuke without it; Sasuke got EMS because he knew that he'd die fighting SM Naruto without it.

That suggests SM Naruto=MS Sasuke.

That's balls Sasuke was blind.

 

[MickNerks]

just because it can destroy an entire mountain doesn't mean it can destroy susanoo... chou oedema rasengan can destroy an entire mountain too yet it couldn't put a scratch on madara's susanoo skeleton so what makes you think frs would break susanoo?

I didnt say it could break susanoo, because that would be me using fanboy opinion instead of facts. I said that he should state facts because we havent seen anything that proves that FRS CANNOT break susanoo. And i gave an example of the FRS power showing that it may be possible to break it. But im in no way implying that it will.

And the chou oedema rasengan has never been shown or described to destroy a mountain. That is only speculataion based on its size. So you cant use that in an argument.

 

[Rafeal brown]

I didnt say it could break susanoo, because that would be me using fanboy opinion instead of facts. I said that he should state facts because we havent seen anything that proves that FRS CANNOT break susanoo. And i gave an example of the FRS power showing that it may be possible to break it. But im in no way implying that it will.

And the chou oedema rasengan has never been shown or described to destroy a mountain. That is only speculataion based on its size. So you cant use that in an argument.

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it can destroy a mountain just like frs... We've never seen frs hit a susanoo before and all we can do is speculate but in my opinion it can't destroy susanoo... you don't have to agree with me since it's my opinion and if we're not allowed to speculate then i don't see the need for "narutobase"... Hope i made sense.