Is MS Sasuke stronger than SM Naruto?

[sukans]

come on dudes didnt kabuto dodge susanoo arrow with his sage mode? Avnt naruto shown how powerful is sensing ability and reflex is with the raikage? seems we are all forgeting that sasuske will get blind from the over use of ms, and naruto can always go back to sm if he runs out of it meaning no risk at all, from recent chapters we could even see naruto go into sage mode in a second.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

Not if he fuses with Ma and Pa, which he can.

No Naruto couldn't

 

[blackfyre]

with naruto at SM he could probably detect threats and dodge susano'o arrows even with the last seconds...

check naruto chapter 555/13 and 555/14

:ice:

 

[bl4ckJack]

come on dudes didnt kabuto dodge susanoo arrow with his sage mode? Avnt naruto shown how powerful is sensing ability and reflex is with the raikage? seems we are all forgeting that sasuske will get blind from the over use of ms, and naruto can always go back to sm if he runs out of it meaning no risk at all, from recent chapters we could even see naruto go into sage mode in a second.

Yeah ... thats a good point sukans .... thats an advantage Naruto has in SM...
But ... Snake Sage (Dragon sage ) is different than toad sage mode ... so dont compare both plz .... they do have diff abilities !

 

[bl4ckJack]

No Naruto couldn't

and I thin Q is ri8 ^

 

[MNU]

Pretty close i guess

 

[Troyg39]

I know Kishi said they grow as a pair, but it's obvious he's been making Sasuke stronger for almost the entire manga. He's doing this on purpose because he's a good writer. Naruto will end up the strongest. Both Sasuke and Naruto are due for another power up. Their power ups are equal in terms of them getting power ups, but Sasuke has always been stronger until now. This is the real comparison

S=TBC (Tailed Beast Cloak)
MS=SM
EMS=KM

Naruto has BM now and this is the first time he has been ahead of Sasuke. Sasuke will probably get the Rinnegan, but Naruto will also get another power up and that will be the final for both to end the manda with Naruto on top. Don't forget we haven't even the seen the effects of the 1-7 tailed beasts loaning their power to Naruto yet. We'll probably see Naruto reach some sort of Senju version of the So6p. Kind of like how the Rinnegan is the Uchiha version of the So6p.

I think it's clear Kishi is setting them up to be a repeat of the younger and elder son battle. And we all know who won that. Ever wondered how the younger son beat the older son who inherited the sage's eyes? We'll find out with Naruto's next power up

 

[Sagehelm]

SM Naruto cant be hit...not even by the Susano'o Arrow n ill tell u y,he is the done of the yellow flash...now after a quick fight with the 3rd Reikage(who hits faster than anyone on the manga....yes even the giant arrowof death) he became the orange flash of konoha BOOM

 

[AlexRG23]

Well I'd say its a matter of who gets tired first, Naruto has approximately 15 minutes of SM, and Sasuke I'm not sure.... Until he goes blind.

Sasuke will have the offense, but it will be useless with Naruto in SM. Naruto has probably one of the best sensor abilities in the manga with SM, and his threat perception rivals that of the sharingan. Naruto will not be able to break susanoo, maybe he can I'm not quite sure... His super strength or maybe his rasenshuriken? We saw what danzo did to it with wind, and tsunade with her strength.

This is probably the most equal Naruto and sasuke have ever been, which is why I say the battle will be won in the last 5 minutes of Naruto's SM. If Sasuke can stay in susanoo continuously for 15 minutes, he wins. However, if he cant, Naruto will most definitely seize the oppurtunity and beat him.

Oh and the sharingan won't be of help to Sasuke in a taijutsu battle as Naruto will easily use frog kumite along with his senjutsu manipulation to beat him. xd

 

[Rafeal brown]

I think ms sasuke is slightly stronger... Sm naruto has no counter to kirin.

 

[Rafeal brown]

I know Kishi said they grow as a pair, but it's obvious he's been making Sasuke stronger for almost the entire manga. He's doing this on purpose because he's a good writer. Naruto will end up the strongest. Both Sasuke and Naruto are due for another power up. Their power ups are equal in terms of them getting power ups, but Sasuke has always been stronger until now. This is the real comparison

S=TBC (Tailed Beast Cloak)
MS=SM
EMS=KM

Naruto has BM now and this is the first time he has been ahead of Sasuke. Sasuke will probably get the Rinnegan, but Naruto will also get another power up and that will be the final for both to end the manda with Naruto on top. Don't forget we haven't even the seen the effects of the 1-7 tailed beasts loaning their power to Naruto yet. We'll probably see Naruto reach some sort of Senju version of the So6p. Kind of like how the Rinnegan is the Uchiha version of the So6p.

I think it's clear Kishi is setting them up to be a repeat of the younger and elder son battle. And we all know who won that. Ever wondered how the younger son beat the older son who inherited the sage's eyes? We'll find out with Naruto's next power up

BOLD PART: Huh? The elder son lost to the younger son? Where did you get that from? Link plz..........!!

 

[lukasenko]

I believe that we haven't seen yet the full potential of SM naruto. Remember that the full benefits of the sage mode come when the frogs fuse together. Like Jiraiya for instance, he neerly had "unlimited" chakra. Now that naruto has tamed the kyubi inside of him I believe that the nine tails chakra would not reject the frogs like it did in the past .

 

[kiryuken]

I think SM naruto will win.... sasuke relies on his susano'o for defence, but a rasenshuriken can break the susano'o of sasuke made during the time he had MS. since susano'o's movements are slow, sasuke will surely get caught in his shadow shuriken jutsu....but then sasuke's susano'o arrow are pretty strong and fast too....still i am gonna bet on naruto.

 

[rubachac]

Yes I'd say he certainly is. 3-Tomoe Sasuke afer training with orochimaru has comparable speed to SM Naruto, even able to keep up with Raikage in lighting armor.



Don't forget that Zetsu is working for Tobi to manipulate Sasuke and this is all well and good for Sasuke, who did not watch the fight. But I did, and i saw Naruto in SM almost die multiple times before switching to 6-tails state for most of the fight, and then give the final blow in SM.

Naruto as a whole did beat Pain, but not using just SM, and not alone.

Sasuke has not comparable speed with naruto.. raikage was much faster than sasuke.. and naruto is faster than the raikage x)

 

[kekerot]

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I kind of think so. I don't see SM Naruto dodging Susanoo Arrow or Amaterasu.


Not only that when SM Naruto runs out of senjutusu chakra he has to stand still to go SM. Susannoo Arrow will rip him to shreds.


Rasengans and Rasenshurikens isn't breaking thru Susanoo. If Naruto is careless and uses 2 rasenshurikens he will burn out of Sage Mode.


Summons can be easily handled with genjutsu and amaterasu. Personality wise Naruto wouldn't summon a frog if he knew it would get burned.

You forgot one thing if he fuses with ma and pa (the frogs) he can use SM forewer...he couldnt fuse with them coz of nine tails but now he is friend with nine tails so....with eternal SM he can do whatever he wants

 

[kekerot]

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I kind of think so. I don't see SM Naruto dodging Susanoo Arrow or Amaterasu.


Not only that when SM Naruto runs out of senjutusu chakra he has to stand still to go SM. Susannoo Arrow will rip him to shreds.


Rasengans and Rasenshurikens isn't breaking thru Susanoo. If Naruto is careless and uses 2 rasenshurikens he will burn out of Sage Mode.


Summons can be easily handled with genjutsu and amaterasu. Personality wise Naruto wouldn't summon a frog if he knew it would get burned.

oh and MS Sasuke runs out of amaterasu and susano pretty fast dummy

 

[Anorien16]

Personally i think SM naruto wld lose to MS Sasuke, unless Naruto survives long enough to turn Sasuke blind (Unlikely). So Naruto's only hope for win is his summon assists, frog song etc still its very very slim chance.

 

[PainIsGod]

Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends?

 

[Vegeta]

The plot would also dictate that if the two rivals fought to the death it would be an equal struggle. Kishi indicates all of this through Naruto's comment that if they both fought they'd die.

You notice they stopped mentioning this after Gramps Sage talks to Naruto about his vision. There is something else to that whole "If we fight, we die" thing then we're being led to know. Like with that crow Itachi planted in Naruto, I think we were supposed to 'forget' about Naruto saying that to Sasuke by now

 

[Raikiri10]

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