Is Minato even fast?

[you and your stupid ideas]

He's a teleporter not "fast". Fast is moving from point a to point b with your own body. So the means of raido and genma use the ftgt together their the "fastest". No. Speed is rock Lee. Might Guy. Naruto. A. Not Minato

so blame the author then for misleading people with the concept of whats "fast" and whats "teleported".

 

[BelphaZar]

base speed, minato is quicker than anyone except A if im correct but base speed combine with FTG minato will smoke A in a heart bit and not only that kill him just like sasuke with your theory, manito will doge kirin and in the progress kill sasuke, if sasuke decides to perform that technic on minato which that takes a time to do so. IDk Why do people take out FTG like its not part of who he is just like raikage if he dont uses the lightning armor thingy he wouldnt be as fast at minato base speed probobly or less. For example you take the sharigan away from sasuke that will make him less powerfull but first of all why take hes sharigan away tho? thats my point, its odvious.... So thats why all those theorys talking about naruto withough kurama would dye against sasuke ect... are not valid to me

 

[Moe22]

We've already told you why. Your concerned about the technicalities of a definition.

Okay yes. I am concerned of the technicalities of the definition. I'm not going to blame Kishi because I would get confused sometimes when writing a 600 chapter -and-counting manga. But what pisses my off is fanboys like you are like "MINATO FTG FTW LOOLLZZZ FASTEST IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE!!" So go ahead big guy. Explain the technicalities of the definition of speed. Pure Physical speed.

 

[SasukeCurse]

He has a way for him to get to point A to point B faster then anyone except now for naruto can do it Minato is ****ing fast regardless how he gets there

 

[Pekoms]

Okay yes. I am concerned of the technicalities of the definition. I'm not going to blame Kishi because I would get confused sometimes when writing a 600 chapter -and-counting manga. But what pisses my off is fanboys like you are like "MINATO FTG FTW LOOLLZZZ FASTEST IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE!!" So go ahead big guy. Explain the technicalities of the definition of speed. Pure Physical speed.

I've never supported Minato in a discussion aside from this one.
I also said BM Naruto was just as fast and that others were physically quicker.

You just have different criteria for speed, as opposed to Kishi and his shinobi.
Ultimately, you can't make excuses for what Kishi said.

 

[Moe22]

He has a way for him to get to point A to point B faster then anyone except now for naruto can do it Minato is ****ing fast regardless how he gets there

Irrelevant, as I already stated why this is invalid for me.

 

[Moe22]

I've never supported Minato in a discussion aside from this one.
I also said BM Naruto was just as fast and that others were physically quicker.

You just have different criteria for speed, as opposed to Kishi and his shinobi.
Ultimately, you can't make excuses for what Kishi said.

Galileo defined speed as the distance covered per unit of time. Minato didn't cover any distance. So whatever universe it is bleach, one piece, fairy tail or naruto. This is how speed is defined. Kishi didn't give the word a new meaning.

 

[Pekoms]

Galileo defined speed as the distance covered per unit of time. Minato didn't cover any distance. So whatever universe it is bleach, one piece, fairy tail or naruto. This is how speed is defined. Kishi didn't give the word a new meaning.

Sigh... no one is saying he is physically the fastest on this thread.
Go hunt down the Minato fanboys... their hiding somewhere.

 

[narutoblitz]

He's faster than anyone can physically move, including Naruto and Madara. Teleportation = instant travel.

 

[Moe22]

base speed, minato is quicker than anyone except A if im correct but base speed combine with FTG minato will smoke A in a heart bit and not only that kill him just like sasuke with your theory, manito will doge kirin and in the progress kill sasuke, if sasuke decides to perform that technic on minato which that takes a time to do so. IDk Why do people take out FTG like its not part of who he is just like raikage if he dont uses the lightning armor thingy he wouldnt be as fast at minato base speed probobly or less. For example you take the sharigan away from sasuke that will make him less powerfull but first of all why take hes sharigan away tho? thats my point, its odvious.... So thats why all those theorys talking about naruto withough kurama would dye against sasuke ect... are not valid to me

Well yes, but I'm talking about if ninjutsu was stripped of minato, let's just say he wouldn't be the yellow flash anymore.

 

[Moe22]

Sigh... no one is saying he is physically the fastest on this thread.
Go hunt down the Minato fanboys... their hiding somewhere.

Help me find them

 

[Moe22]

He's faster than anyone can physically move, including Naruto and Madara. Teleportation = instant travel.

I'll give you an equation to think about. speed = teleportation?

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Well yes, but I'm talking about if ninjutsu was stripped of minato, let's just say he wouldn't be the yellow flash anymore.

the question is why would you do that ?? why would you want to take away what defines him ?? his base raw speed is fast but not the fastest (ONE of the fastest). his jutsu and reflexes is what makes him the yellow flash, and shouldn't we just measure him with all he can do ??

 

[Moe22]

the question is why would you do that ?? why would you want to take away what defines him ?? his base raw speed is fast but not the fastest. his jutsu and reflexes is what makes him the yellow flash, and shouldn't we just measure him with all he can do ??

Because as I said, his ftg allows him to teleport anywhere a kunai is, or where he made a seal is. That's powerful. BUT ITS NOT THE SAME AS SPEED! Based on our knowledge of him, he has fast reflexes. Not fast base speed. Getting from point A to B on foot.

 

[you and your stupid ideas]

...sigh...


this thread goes down like this.

OP:
-"Minato isn't the fastest cause he only teleports."

posters:
"Minato is the fastest because 1. The author says so. 2. legitimate reasons by his means of travel."

OP:
-"no, he only teleports, hes not fast."

give a damn valid reason to why "teleporting" isn't a method of transportation.

Transportation which is directly affected by the term "speed" speed which is co-dependent to the term "instantaneous movement"
instantaneous movement which is a synonym to the term "teleportation".

so if we read this in reverse.

teleportation = instantaneous movement - speed - transportation.

bam. another logic.

op is gunna be..

"nuh-uh he's still not fast cause he only teleports."

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Because as I said, his ftg allows him to teleport anywhere a kunai is, or where he made a seal is. That's powerful. BUT ITS NOT THE SAME AS SPEED! Based on our knowledge of him, he has fast reflexes. Not fast base speed. Getting from point A to B on foot.

i already did answer that "his base speed is one of the fastest but NOT the fastest". now kishi did write him as the fastest (speed defines him) so probably that means that kishi considered teleporting as SPEED. i perfectly understand your point (you don't see that as speed) but technically isn't speed how fast you get from point A to point B ?? i mean if you race him and he just teleported at the finish line doesn't that mean that he got there before you (faster) ?? its all about how you define speed bro.

 

[silmarill]

He would still be incredibly fast if he didnt have ftg.

Il provide u with some scans

He still has his shunshin : meaning he can blitz like seen here

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Here u see Kakashi almost getting an erection because he is comparing Naruto's speed to his sensei's (wich was Minato)
He clearly says speed so dont say he compared it to ftg cause their is not trace or speed in that, its instant.

Now seeing as Kakashi spend alot of time with Minato he would know the best about his speed yet he compared it with the currently fastest character in the NV, that should give u a clear view of how fast the guy was infact.

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To answer your question, Yes Minato is fast without his ftg he is top 3 with only Naruto and RaikageV2 rivalling or even being slightly faster then him.

 

[bl4ckJack]

Your points are all as right as it gets. However All those jutsu are used to enhance speed. Minato ftgt is a teleportation jutsu. Since when is teleportation the same as super speed.

I'll give you an equation to think about. speed = teleportation?

Now u trying teaching us Math dude ... am gonna teach u some then

Definiton : Speed

Noun
Rapidity of movement or action

Verb
Move quickly

Mathmatics : Speed

Measured as distance traveled per unit of time i.e.
Speed = Distance/Time

Teleportaion - A tech
Gates - A Tech
Lightning Armour - A Tech
Kurama - A Tailed Beast

Now I gave u something to think about

 

[Moe22]

i already did answer that "his base speed is one of the fastest but NOT the fastest". now kishi did right him as the fastest (speed defines him) so probably that means that kishi considered teleporting as SPEED. i perfectly understand your point (you don't see that as speed) but technically isn't speed how fast you get from point A to point B ?? i mean if you race him and he just teleported at the finish line doesn't that mean that he got there before you (faster) ?? its all about how you define speed bro.

Yes good point. But earlier i said Galileo defined speed as the distance covered per unit of time. Keyword: Covered. I know this is a fiction manga but I just wanted someone to convince me he really was deserving of the title "yellow flash".

 

[Moe22]

He would still be incredibly fast if he didnt have ftg.

Il provide u with some scans

He still has his shunshin : meaning he can blitz like seen here

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Here u see Kakashi almost getting an erection because he is comparing Naruto's speed to his sensei's (wich was Minato)
He clearly says speed so dont say he compared it to ftg cause their is not trace or speed in that, its instant.

You must be registered for see images

To answer your question, Yes Minato is fast without his ftg he is top 3 with only Naruto and RaikageV2 rivalling or even being slightly faster then him.

THIS IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR! i guess i overlook things like that because when minato grabbed chibi naruto I thought he used the ftg. And I didn't see kakashi's reaction. THANK YOU! I'm was getting quite sick of "He can get from point A to point B the fastest"