Is Madara politically timid?

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Isn't he a little bit too introverted when it comes to exposing his opinions?

Take a look in facts:

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See?? He is simply voicing his concerns to his best friend! Like he's got all the power, when actually he should do that with the damyos and the people of the village.

Another thing:

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He hears all the conversation about the Uchiha being prejudiced and all about how the Senju are about to make him a vilanized person, along with ALL his clan. Forever.

And everything he does is run away.

Why he didn't burst through the door? Like: you better treat my family well just like it was in the treaty!

And you don't even come saying to me: but he did warn the Uchiha blah blah blah... Or they didn't trust him blah blah blah.....

Whatever if he voiced his concerns to only his clan. He had all the power of doing it also to the Village. And proving time after time that everything was leading to segregation of the Uchiha, with him staying in the Village.


Why he was so weak willed? Didn't he have a public relation team to support him?

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

I would do the same thing , and why would he even bust through the door when he alrdy heard their true intentions and what they think about it?

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

I would do the same thing , and why would he even bust through the door when he alrdy heard their true intentions and what they think about it?

You want him to swallow all his dignity as a leader just for convenience?
He is just going to watch things burn while the very people he made a treaty aren't doing their part?
He should've took a harsher approach towards Tobirama and the leaders who didn't like him.

Weak willed.
Where is his public relations team?

 

[Uverdore9]

Madara has always been weak willed. His Perfect SusanoO are to cover it up.

 

[MomoSaka]

Can't imagine how he felt like when he heard all of that.
While, things might probably turned out differently if Madara actually came to them in the middle of the conversation, but I still don't him doing it or don't see the point, it's so unlike him to do such things.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Madara has always been weak willed. His Perfect SusanoO are to cover it up.

It's just like it has been stated in manga: the greatest tech is to cover up your weakness!

But I think it was just when it came to politics. Maybe he was just tired fighting?? Maybe he just can't stand treason?

He went through a 100 years plan. He is nothing but a weak willed person.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Can't imagine how he felt like when he heard all of that.
While, things might probably turned out differently if Madara actually came to them in the middle of the conversation, but I still don't him doing it or don't see the point, it's so unlike him to do such things.

True!!!

Maybe he was feeling depression because of Izuna's death?

But anyway: where was his public relation team? His clan friends? His cousins?

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

You want him to swallow all his dignity as a leader just for convenience?
He is just going to watch things burn while the very people he made a treaty aren't doing their part?
He should've took a harsher approach towards Tobirama and the leaders who didn't like him.

Weak willed.
Where is his public relations team?

Did that happened? No. Madara took the path of his own path away from these traitors and it was the right decision. But maybe he should've done that to Tobirama and the others who didnt like him, but knowing Madara it wouldnt be good at all and it would just end with the slaughter . He was betrayed by everyone, even Hashirama acted like a little b and listening to Tobirama's hidden plotting against the Uchiha - but he was too dumb to realise that, but Madara isnt stupid

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[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Did that happened? No. Madara took the path of his own path away from these traitors and it was the right decision. But maybe he should've done that to Tobirama and the others who didnt like him, but knowing Madara it wouldnt be good at all and it would just end with the slaughter . He was betrayed by everyone, even Hashirama acted like a little b and listening to Tobirama's hidden plotting against the Uchiha

True.

But yes, he swallowed all his pride when he became just the right hand of Hashirama. They were supposed to be on equal foot.
It's illegal to think otherwise. The treaty was all about that.
When was the last time you saw him creating a backbone and proving all his political opinions about Tobirama right?
Standing up against the damyos???

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

True.

But yes, he swallowed all his pride when he became just the right hand of Hashirama. They were supposed to be on equal foot.
It's illegal to think otherwise. The treaty was all about that.
When was the last time you saw him creating a backbone and proving all his political opinions about Tobirama right?
Standing up against the damyos???

I edited my post with an image - Madara isnt stupid.

If he was actually Hashirama's right hand, Hashirama should stand up for him while talking to Tobirama, but instead he kept bashing Uchiha's and Madara and saying how he could never be trusted, thats when Hashirama should stand up to him. Madara felt betrayed right there. Even other Uchiha's stopped listening to Madara and believing that the village have the best interest for them, but it was the other way around.

Who is damyos?

True that Madara maybe swalloed all his pride in that moment, it was because he was betrayed by everyone, but Madara came back

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Did that happened? No. Madara took the path of his own path away from these traitors and it was the right decision. But maybe he should've done that to Tobirama and the others who didnt like him, but knowing Madara it wouldnt be good at all and it would just end with the slaughter . He was betrayed by everyone, even Hashirama acted like a little b and listening to Tobirama's hidden plotting against the Uchiha - but he was too dumb to realise that, but Madara isnt stupid

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Aham. And he did that only AFTER the ellection. With ONLY his best friend.

If he stayed and proved the ellections were manipulated with fake news, it should even be annuled.

Of course damyos won't want that. In the first place, Madara didn't even like the idea of Hakage, and puts one of the Uchiha or Senju to second class, rate.

Why Madara didn't use his enormous power to make that weak but jealous and power starving people like Tobirama, vengeful Senju and damyos, shut up?

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

I edited my post with an image - Madara isnt stupid.

If he was actually Hashirama's right hand, Hashirama should stand up for him while talking to Tobirama, but instead he kept bashing Uchiha's and Madara and saying how he could never be trusted, thats when Hashirama should stand up to him. Madara felt betrayed right there. Even other Uchiha's stopped listening to Madara and believing that the village have the best interest for them, but it was the other way around.

Who is damyos?

True that Madara maybe swalloed all his pride in that moment, it was because he was betrayed by everyone, but Madara came back

Yeah, he is smart. But what he is doing with all this "smartness" of his?? Yes, listening behind the doors, instead of being invited to ENTER in reunions he SHOULD be invited to.

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

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Aham. And he did that only AFTER the ellection. With ONLY his best friend.

If he stayed and proved the ellections were manipulated with fake news, it should even be annuled.

Of course damyos won't want that. In the first place, Madara didn't even like the idea of Hakage, and puts one of the Uchiha or Senju to second class, rate.

Why Madara didn't use his enormous power to make that weak but jealous and power starving people like Tobirama, vengeful Senju and damyos, shut up?

Whats there to prove when he alrdy knew what they really think about it? There is nothing to prove, when that hate would always be there and non trusting issues as you can see here

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Use the power for whom exactly? He didnt actuall care about any of them and since he didnt have that trust back that way would never work and like i said it would only end up with slaughter - Its because they were jealous and afraid that this thing happened and they pushed him away

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

Yeah, he is smart. But what he is doing with all this "smartness" of his?? Yes, listening behind the doors, instead of being invited to ENTER in reunions he SHOULD be invited to.

Ok, put yourself in the position that you hear some people talk bad about you, would you bother to enter? When you alrdy know what they think of you?

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Whats there to prove when he alrdy knew what they really think about it? There is nothing to prove, when that hate would always be there and non trusting issues as you can see here

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Use the power for whom exactly? He didnt actuall care about any of them and since he didnt have that trust back that way would never work and like i said it would only end up with slaughter - Its because they were jealous and afraid that this thing happened and they pushed him away

One thing is one thing. Another is another.

Ok they were afraid of him.And jealous. I got it. And Madara did too.
One thing is the problem. And another is what you make of it.

You have a great ally that is the strongest shinobi alive. Along with the fact you are the leader of the 2nd greatest clan. And without you there wouldn't be no Konoha.

Where is your pride to stand against the likes of Tobirama? Where is your public relations team?

Madara should've made a public appearance telling all the people the lies and prejudice he was going through!
Instead of listening through doors!

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Ok, put yourself in the position that you hear some people talk bad about you, would you bother to enter? When you alrdy know what they think of you?

It's a political thing! It's not about your sentiments or feelings.

He should've washed all the slate clean.

Again: he is the person that made Konoha possible. It's NO favor being chosen as a Nidaime, attending all the reunions, or not having fake news sorrounding him all the time.

He should've left Hashirama a little bit alone and found other people who could help him. It was wrong stading all the time with Hashirama.

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

One thing is one thing. Another is another.

Ok they were afraid of him.And jealous. I got it. And Madara did too.
One thing is the problem. And another is what you make of it.

You have a great ally that is the strongest shinobi alive. Along with the fact you are the leader of the 2nd greatest clan. And without you there wouldn't be no Konoha.

Where is your pride to stand against the likes of Tobirama? Where is your public relations team?

Madara should've made a public appearance telling all the people the lies and prejudice he was going through!
Instead of listening through doors!

I like the way you think. It could work that way. But Hashirama could take more resposibility for what you said right here, instead he was been played like a puppet by the likes of Tobirama, and he should the one who should tell him that he is wrong and not to bother into his business.

Madara and Hashirama were Original founders of Konoha so, this little retard had no rights to bug in, but instead he kept his nose and kept bugging in in' every single thing that was going on...

But like i said Hashirama should stand up to him and insist that Madara be invited to meeting of the Lords since he was the leader of Konoha , even if Madara act so high and mighty with full of his pride, he was actually more gentle then you even know

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[Reboryushon]

Even Sasuke has the whole operating from the shadows thing.

I believe (fanfic) it is an Uchiha thing. They are seriously damaged in several aspects.

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

It's a political thing! It's not about your sentiments or feelings.

He should've washed all the slate clean.

Again: he is the person that made Konoha possible. It's NO favor being chosen as a Nidaime, attending all the reunions, or not having fake news sorrounding him all the time.

He should've left Hashirama a little bit alone and found other people who could help him. It was wrong stading all the time with Hashirama.

This wasnt only political thing. And what was really happening there, feelings were so much involved then you even know. Madara was actually the person like that and his feelings would always be involved.

This was about him and his clan, not just political thing - The treaty they signed with Senju clan was actually based on friendship not political - Because he trusted them, but they could never be trusted since you know how people are, and Madara was well awared of that, and he tried to warn the Uchiha about that, but he was even betrayed by them.

What do you mean leave Hashirama alone? Hashirama had a lot of time alone with Tobirama and others, where Madara was never there. And he should be the one to speak up, and say that Madara is my friend and the Uchiha are part of the Konoha just like we are" and not doubting a moment. Thats a true friend.

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

Even Sasuke has the whole operating from the shadows thing.

I believe (fanfic) it is an Uchiha thing. They are seriously damaged in several aspects.

Yeah they are damaged,at least they are not fake, got a problem?

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