Is Madara planet level?

[Senju Bean]

Fact: it was said that Hagaromo created the moon without the Juubi as an old man on his death bed.

Fact: it was said that Hagaromo struggled against the Juubi( source: tobi @ kage summit)

Fact: well as a dying old man without Juubi, he is definitely weaker than when he defeated the Juubi. Especially after
extraction.

Fact: Madara subjugated a nearly complete Juubi, he didn't struggle at all. He just absorbed it and became the Jin.

Fact: because he didn't struggle at all, compared to Hagaromo, and he has the Juubi inside of him, it does to reason that Madara is stronger than a dying Hagaromo on death bed, because Hagaromo without the Jin stuggled to defeat the Juubi.


But then since dying Hagaromo without Juubi, which is weaker then Hagaromo who defeated the Juubi, is moon level, Madara must be beyond that since he both subjugated a nearly complete Juubi and is also the Jin.

Therefore he must be beyond moon level. He therefore must be a planet level.


Note, I'm not saying Juubi Jin Madara is stronger than Juubi Jin Hagaromo. But obviously Juubi Jin Hagaromo is easily planet level.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Most likely, but too bad we'll never see firepower like that in this manga...

 

[Champ]

Yeah. I'm hoping to see some op moves from Madara and not like Juubi dama's like Obito

 

[Everztar]

Rikudou fought the juubi and sealed the juubi...

Madara captured 9 bijuus with his weak shell of the juubi...
and then sealed that inside of him before the Juubi went on rampage/became conscious...

Rikudou probably won the battle against juubi without Rinnegan aswell

 

[Seventh Sama]

Rikudou fought the juubi and sealed the juubi...

Madara captured 9 bijuus with his weak shell of the juubi...
and then sealed that inside of him before the Juubi went on rampage/became conscious...

Rikudou probably won the battle against juubi without Rinnegan aswell

exactly the nine bijuu are nothing compared to a full powered Juubi and yeah the manga stated Hagoromo did defeat the juubi

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

planetbuster seems a little too extreme. He's a confirmed mountain buster so let's just settle on high City Buster

 

[Jonesy161]

The Jyubi was under Madara's control from the get go, he didn't have to fight it. The Rikudo had to fight a full powered Jyubi from get go. He was the one to bind the Jyubi to the Gedo Mazo in the first place to split it into 9 beasts. I highly doubt Madara is anywhere near the power of the Rikudo when Rikudo had to fight the Jyubi.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Rikudou fought the juubi and sealed the juubi...

Madara captured 9 bijuus with his weak shell of the juubi...
and then sealed that inside of him before the Juubi went on rampage/became conscious...

Rikudou probably won the battle against juubi without Rinnegan aswell

We still have no evidence that the rinnegan was gotten by becoming the juubi jinchuriki. All we know is that if it is gotten, it's not immediate, otherwise obito would have gotten a second rinnegan.

Anyway, If obtio managed to seal the juubi with a freaking hole in his chest, i don't think madara's feat of beating it in a few panels is no impressive. It certainly doesn't require Planet Buster level power.

 

[Seventh Sama]

We still have no evidence that the rinnegan was gotten by becoming the juubi jinchuriki. All we know is that if it is gotten, it's not immediate, otherwise obito would have gotten a second rinnegan.

Anyway, If obtio managed to seal the juubi with a freaking hole in his chest, i don't think madara's feat of beating it in a few panels is no impressive. It certainly doesn't require Planet Buster level power.

Lets just say that,You need to be the Juubi's host for a while, So becoming a host right away wouldn't allow you to awaken the rinnegan. anyways one shouldn't consider sealing a bijuu count as a "defeat"...

I only consider it a defeat if they said shinobi went toe to toe with it (E.G 3rd raikage fighting the hachibi head on, even though that fight was a stalemate)