Is lightened Raikage faster than the Juubi Jinchuuriki ?
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Eng nawashi
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Speed is linearly proportional to weight and lightened AY could be dozens or maybe even hunderds of times lighter so he is that much faster as well .i dont think there is any feat that makes JJ that much faster than V2 Ay so yeah he is faster .not to mention that lightened Ay's movements is the only raw speed that was ever accompanied with the same sound marks of instant teleportation (Ameno&Ftg) if that is meant to imply anything .
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KCM Naruto could read the speed of V2 A and even dodge on foot. Yet the same Naruto (except stronger) got both his and Sasuke's asses blitzed by Jin Obito when he still couldn't control his power.
Not to mention Jin Obito blitzed KCM Minato. Whilst A couldn't even blitz base Minato.
So, no Jinchuuriki Obito's speed >>> V2 A speed.
Not to mention Jin Obito blitzed KCM Minato. Whilst A couldn't even blitz base Minato.
So, no Jinchuuriki Obito's speed >>> V2 A speed.
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Ofc jin obito is much faster than non lightened Ay .this is out of question but i dont think he is hundred times or dozens of times faster mainly because of Tobirama managing to make a physical reaction to his shunshin.
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Jinchuuriki obviously, Ay couldn't even blitz tobi at base. On top of that mindless jyubi blitzed edo tobirama, edo hiruzen, edo hashirama and kcm minato in their fight. Ay hasn't shown anything on that speed feat before so I don't know why Ay is even an argument.
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juubi jin. By far. Dude blitzed sasuke and naruto outright and the only way they could even gets hits or come close to the guy was via cleaver FTG usage.
Not sure why people use JJ Obito blitzing KCM Naruto as an example, when the said KCM Naruto couldn't react to Amatersu from Itachi, which Ay dodged. Comparing characters in different scenarios doesn't lead to a logical conclusion. Saying JJ did something that Ay didn't have the chance to doesn't prove anything. Lightened Ay > Jubi Jinchuriki's Shunshin > (tiny margin) V2 Ay Shunshin > Jubi Jinchuriki normal speed.
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Naruto did not dodge Itachi's amaterasu because he was distracted by the crow he was just forced to throw up.
Obito blitzed KCM Minato, KCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke. A couldn't even blitz base Minato.
Uh, no. Naruto had prior told Bee to watch out for Tsukuyomi and Amatersu just a minute before Amatersu was cast. Crow or not isn't gonna cut it. Obito never blitzed Minato by pure foot-speed, and KCM didn't enhance Minato's reaction.
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KCM enhances Minato's reactions just like it did with Naruto, just like it'd do with anybody else. No reason to assume otherwise unless you want to throw common sense and logic away.
Obito was able to rip off Minato's arm before he could even think and port away with FTG. That's a blitz right there and it's not even debatable.
Irrelevant. Naruto warning B about Amaterasu doesn't mean he can not be distracted, which is what happened exactly. You saying it won't cut it when that's exactly the reason behind him not reacting isn't an argument on any level.
Chakra boost doesn't enhance one's reaction, unless the boost has precognition like Sage Mode, and KCM was never said to have such. All it did was it boosted foot-speed, nothing else. Naruto didn't instantly react to Ay the moment he got KCM, he had to adjust to his speed for some time to react to him properly. Once a character can react to instantaneous speed, he's not getting a reaction higher than that, regardless of whatever boost he gets. Instant is the highest thing anyone can react to, scientifically and fictionally speaking. That's logic.
:lol Naruto isn't gonna warn about an attack that could potentially finish them off, then he gets distracted by an animal. You saying ''irrelevant'' isn't a thing in front of factual events. Amatersu was cast right in front of Naruto, and latter could not react to it hence the exclamation (!). Not sure why this is hard to understand.
Edit: Obito ripping Minato's arm off indicates his attacking speed is faster. Not his footspeed. You made a thread about foot-speed strictly.
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Why arguing that JJ feats are superior to Ay when both me and Edogawa agree that JJ's shunshin is superior to V2 Ay's shunshin but the thread is about Lightened V2 Ay who is already so much faster than V2 Ay. JJ Obito blitzing KCM Naruto doesn't make him faster than lightened Ay who would blitz the shit out of KCM Naruto whose best feat is evading the much slower V2 Ay with pre-warning at the last split second .Lightened Ay blitzed Madara with no sign of reaction ,not even exclamation mark .JJ Obito and Madara blitzed aggressive KCM/SM Minato with their striking speed which is not what is discussed here .lightened V2 Ay is faster than V2 Ay as much as he is lighter .so he could logically be hundred times faster than his non-lightened self or even more .
