[Question] Is Law a let down?

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I was referring to their tanking capabilities. Joker low diffing Zoro is nothing but a baseless assumption you pulled out of nowhere.And god knows on what basis you made that conclusion.




Not really.

maybe cuz the person he is always compared to (sanji) got low diffed by doffy...
or perhaps the fact that his captin had to be carried out of the fight when doffy was still going trying to find him..
or maybe is due to luffys new tech (that puts him in his own right above zoro by a decent margin) not beating doffy..
or it could be that luffy and law together could not beat doffy...
then it could be that the latest chapter had both luffy and law on battle field so perhaps they may team up again by law teleporting luffy in gear 4 cuz luffy cannot control where he goes (which is why he bounces to doffy when fighting him) so there for he perhaps still needs law


i mean if u think zoro can do anything signifcant to doffy, when his rival (yes im aware of zoro bad ass feats and sanji's piss poor feats but thats mainly due to the ppl he clashed with and circomstances unlike zoro sanji has yet to actually have a proper fight since time skip to show off new stuff he learned) or to do something on the same league that his captain and his rival did (zoro by himself) then we honestly have nothing to talk about and ill respectfully disagree cuz if u been thinking that zoro has shown somehting that makes him comparable to doffy (meaning u been thinking this for more then a year cuz thats how long this arc has) the nonsense is already sunken into ur head

 

[KCN]

Hop off it dude. Law's actually done a lot better than I thought he would of done.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I was referring to their tanking capabilities. Joker low diffing Zoro is nothing but a baseless assumption you pulled out of nowhere.And god knows on what basis you made that conclusion.




Not really.

and u think zoro can tank gear 4 :| :| :| and gamma knife together im done

 

[A v i]

u said current zoro is just under zoro (if someone can low or even mid diff (being generous) thats not just below) and then u said even comparable .... that is what my statement was for.. it didnt come out of no where..

Didn't I said that I was referring to their ability to tank hits? Once again Zoro getting low diffed is just a baseless assumption.

and u think zoro can tank gear 4 :| :| :| and gamma knife together im done

Why can't he? Genma knife is a special case as Joker relied on his fruit to overcome it's effects but why is it impossible to assume that Zoro can tank G4 hits? No one ever said that he'd tank them with 0 damage or that he's as much of a tank as Joker. I said he's may be closer. Just because it's Luffy's strongest form doesn't mean that they're impossible to tank. Zoro tanked attacks from Oz which are much stronger than anything pre TS Luffy can offer. On top of that he tanked attacks from Kuma and all of Luffy's pain. I don't see why he can't do that now.

 

[Peace Maker]

Oda was just doing what it takes to make him op at the same time not, cos if he didnt, you know he can beat dofi af..

 

[A v i]

maybe cuz the person he is always compared to (sanji) got low diffed by doffy...
or perhaps the fact that his captin had to be carried out of the fight when doffy was still going trying to find him..
or maybe is due to luffys new tech (that puts him in his own right above zoro by a decent margin) not beating doffy..
or it could be that luffy and law together could not beat doffy...
then it could be that the latest chapter had both luffy and law on battle field so perhaps they may team up again by law teleporting luffy in gear 4 cuz luffy cannot control where he goes (which is why he bounces to doffy when fighting him) so there for he perhaps still needs law

Sanji's strength was never compared to Zoro's. I don't even get where you got that from. His captain literally pushed Joker to his limits so I don't see how it can be used to say that he gets low diffed. G4 is not beating him? Not sure if we're reading same manga. Luffy is completely dominating Joker with G4 and there wasn't a single instant in which Joker inflected damage on G4 Luffy. They never actually had a decent 2 on one with Joker so again I don't get how you made that conclusion. No one in his right mind would think that Luffy along with Law can't beat Joker after witnessing G4.

Btw, everything you have said can't help you to say that Zoro's gets low diffed. Those points simply proves that Zoro can't beat Joker and we all know that.

i mean if u think zoro can do anything signifcant to doffy, when his rival (yes im aware of zoro bad ass feats and sanji's piss poor feats but thats mainly due to the ppl he clashed with and circomstances unlike zoro sanji has yet to actually have a proper fight since time skip to show off new stuff he learned) or to do something on the same league that his captain and his rival did (zoro by himself) then we honestly have nothing to talk about and ill respectfully disagree cuz if u been thinking that zoro has shown somehting that makes him comparable to doffy (meaning u been thinking this for more then a year cuz thats how long this arc has) the nonsense is already sunken into ur head

Sanji and Zoro are not rivals of strength. I don't remember them fighting to show their superiority in strength. You can't possibly use Sanji as a reference to say that Zoro gets low diffed. Vergo is worthy opponent for Sanji and he failed to prove himself against him.

The real nonsense here is the fact that you think that I said Zoro's strength is comparable to Joker's when I actually didn't. This is my third time telling you that I was referring to their endurance not their strength.

 

[sage1999]

Not really. [/QUOTE]

has Zoro gone into his asura mode or opened his other eye. G4 is Luffy absolute best but the 1080 pound cannon, while being one of Zoros attacks, was not even close to his full and strongest attack. Zoro hasnt been pushed to tht level at all Zoro reversed the normal order as he fought and defeated Hordy Jones (the strongest dude) UNDERWATER.

 

[sage1999]

]Sanji's strength was never compared to Zoro's. I don't even get where you got that from. His captain literally pushed Joker to his limits so I don't see how it can be used to say that he gets low diffed. G4 is not beating him? Not sure if we're reading same manga. Luffy is completely dominating Joker with G4 and there wasn't a single instant in which Joker inflected damage on G4 Luffy. They never actually had a decent 2 on one with Joker so again I don't get how you made that conclusion. No one in his right mind would think that Luffy along with Law can't beat Joker after witnessing G4.

Btw, everything you have said can't help you to say that Zoro's gets low diffed. Those points simply proves that Zoro can't beat Joker and we all know that.
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Sanji and Zoro are not rivals of strength. I don't remember them fighting to show their superiority in strength. You can't possibly use Sanji as a reference to say that Zoro gets low diffed. Vergo is worthy opponent for Sanji and he failed to prove himself against him.

The real nonsense here is the fact that you think that I said Zoro's strength is comparable to Joker's when I actually didn't. This is my third time telling you that I was referring to their endurance not their strength. [/QUOTE]


Bold 1: Luffy only dominating him cos of how Gamma knife weakened Doffy so much. Doffy still withstood it and would hv defeated Luffy had he not been carried around

Bold 2: Yh, I agree, Zoro is stronger thn Sanji. But Sanji is far more intelligent and is likely to think of a strategm to give Zoro and extreme high diff fight. The fight against Vergo wasnt even fully finished and Vergo was arguably the strongest executive cos he occupied the Heart Seat pre Corazon. Sanji landed way more blows INJURED than Smoker did.

 

[chopstickchakra]

There is a difference b/w not being able to beat him and getting low diffed. No one ever said that he'd beat Joker.

No but look at it like this, Luffy with massive help from Law is going to beat Doffy Extreme Dif. yeah? Then a healthy Doffy would beat a healthy Luffy middle of mid diff to high diff yeah? If that's the case then he'd probably beat Zoro from the high end of low dif to high end mid dif yeah?

 

[A v i]

has Zoro gone into his asura mode or opened his other eye. G4 is Luffy absolute best but the 1080 pound cannon, while being one of Zoros attacks, was not even close to his full and strongest attack. Zoro hasnt been pushed to tht level at all Zoro reversed the normal order as he fought and defeated Hordy Jones (the strongest dude) UNDERWATER.

It doesn't mean that you can say that he's Luffy's equal. We don't know Zoro's limit so we can't say anything for sure. At this point Zoro is on the same level as G3+ G2 Luffy going by feats.

Bold 1: Luffy only dominating him cos of how Gamma knife weakened Doffy so much. Doffy still withstood it and would hv defeated Luffy had he not been carried around

Bold 2: Yh, I agree, Zoro is stronger thn Sanji. But Sanji is far more intelligent and is likely to think of a strategm to give Zoro and extreme high diff fight. The fight against Vergo wasnt even fully finished and Vergo was arguably the strongest executive cos he occupied the Heart Seat pre Corazon. Sanji landed way more blows INJURED than Smoker did.

It matters not as Joker never displayed any feats of being able to dominate G4 when he was healthy. He'd get same kind of treatment even if he's health from the beginning. He'll be more healthier due to lack of wounds received form Law. That's all.

Vergo was holding back way more than Sanji and it was him who dominated the battle. Sanji landed two blows with one of them being a surprise attack. So in a sense they landed same no. of blows on each other but Sanji was the one to receive more damage. Vergo took two blows from Sanji like nothing and continued to fight Law and Smoker without any problems. Sanji on the other hand admitted it would be bad for him to fight with the wound he received from Vergo which explains the clear difference in their capacity.

No but look at it like this, Luffy with massive help from Law is going to beat Doffy Extreme Dif. yeah? Then a healthy Doffy would beat a healthy Luffy middle of mid diff to high diff yeah? If that's the case then he'd probably beat Zoro from the high end of low dif to high end mid dif yeah?

You don't know how strong Luffy is when compared to Zoro. You don't know how much of Jokers fighting capacity decreased because of Law's attacks. You don't know how Zoro's fighting style fares against Joker. You don't know how far Luffy on his own can push healthy Joker. So how can you make this conclusion?

 

[Hexuze]

No but look at it like this, Luffy with massive help from Law is going to beat Doffy Extreme Dif. yeah? Then a healthy Doffy would beat a healthy Luffy middle of mid diff to high diff yeah? If that's the case then he'd probably beat Zoro from the high end of low dif to high end mid dif yeah?

We'll have to see next week, how Luffy is going to defeat Doffy with one shot. Although I do agree that Zoro would get low-mid diff'd by Doflamingo. It's reasonable.

 

[Relostar Devil]

Actually law isn't as strong as he shloud be as a shichibukai but the fans will not understand this thing bcoz he is extremely overhyped character but he deserve to be a supernova.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Actually law isn't as strong as he shloud be as a shichibukai but the fans will not understand this thing bcoz he is extremely overhyped character but he deserve to be a supernova.

there is no power-scale to gauge shichibukai with. Luffy beat 3 shichibukai (including Buggy) pre-TS and Law would wreck them as well :lol

ot: Not in the slightest, he has been very impressive post-TS

 

[saw2097]

there is no power-scale to gauge shichibukai with. Luffy beat 3 shichibukai (including Buggy) pre-TS and Law would wreck them as well :lol

ot: Not in the slightest, he has been very impressive post-TS

Keep in mind that part of the reason Buggy became a Shichibukai is because of the extremely powerful recruits he gained as a result of the Impel Down Arc, even Whitebeard noted that they were strong.

Also it was noted in the first part that Shichibukai are not supposed to lose, they even covered up the zombie ones loss just to maintain the fiction that they are invincible.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Keep in mind that part of the reason Buggy became a Shichibukai is because of the extremely powerful recruits he gained as a result of the Impel Down Arc, even Whitebeard noted that they were strong.

yea,

what I'm saying is that the power-scaling of Shichibukai was all over the place. Now, it seems to be more streamlined but Law is still no slouch. I think he can high-diff hancock honestly

 

[Punk Hazard]

Actually law isn't as strong as he shloud be as a shichibukai but the fans will not understand this thing bcoz he is extremely overhyped character but he deserve to be a supernova.

The Shichibukai strength varies widely. It's not a real scale of power. One Shichibukai admitted that he'd definitely be killed by a Yonko, while another Shichibukai clashes and is above another of the Yonko, while another individual that was invited to be a Shichibukai was low-diffed by another Yonko literally in his sleep, while one Shichibukai became yet another of one of the Yonko within two years. The scale is all over the place.

 

[Relostar Devil]

there is no power-scale to gauge shichibukai with. Luffy beat 3 shichibukai (including Buggy) pre-TS and Law would wreck them as well :lol

ot: Not in the slightest, he has been very impressive post-TS

Law has been very impressive but he doesn't reach up to the expectations. He should have done more with his awesome fruit at least more than a person who was just fighting with the giant animals on an unknown island for two years and plus he was also surviving in the strong new world which should make him more invincible than any other rookie pirates.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Law has been very impressive but he doesn't reach up to the expectations. He should have done more with his awesome fruit at least more than a person who was just fighting with the giant animals on an unknown island for two years and plus he was also surviving in the strong new world which should make him more invincible than any other rookie pirates.

Seeing as how a majority of the damage done to Doflamingo came from Gamma Knife, yeah, he did just enough.

 

[Relostar Devil]

Seeing as how a majority of the damage done to Doflamingo came from Gamma Knife, yeah, he did just enough.

In his current title his Just one hit doesn't outweighs luffys normal powered attacks and even DD strings tackled gamma knife like nothing

 

[chopstickchakra]

We'll have to see next week, how Luffy is going to defeat Doffy with one shot. Although I do agree that Zoro would get low-mid diff'd by Doflamingo. It's reasonable.

It said one shot but can we really call it a 1-shot after everything that's happened in this battle? I hope people don't start saying whatever Luffy does next week is a one shot tech. because that's not really gonna be accurately show cased here(the attack may in fact be a real 1 shot but using it here I don't feel proves it)