[Discussion] Is language sufficient as a mode of communication?(read the thread)

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We humans can communicate a lot of what we feel but a lot is still lost in translation, for example if words are sufficient to pass on a message or feeling, why do things like music exist?
Personally I think music can say what simple words can't, it's a +1 usually. For something technical like a scientific paper though, it wouldn't do.

Currently there are ways like internet forums, image boards, texts, fb(?) etc for the sake of communicating, do you think these are sufficient? And in future with tech like VR at rise do you think this will evolve further, how do you think people will communicate in the future?
 

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While surely there are thoughts that can't be put into words, having a good command of words usually suffices, and language is dynamic; evolving to fit the needs of the age. e.g.Memes and emoticons have become part of our online language.
With the ever increasing Internet speeds and technology that harness it, surely communication will keep evolving
 
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Words alone can convey much. But music is transcendent. It doesn't matter where it is created or what language the lyrics are. The melody itself is enough to express the emotion of its writer/performer.

But until every human evolves into something with psychic abilities where words a no longer needed, words are pretty much the epitome of human communication imho.
 
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Music is an art form it's not just a way to commute, it can be much more. Or much less.

Texts and forums ect.. Just don't always do the message justice though. I think it all just depends.
 

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There are a lot of things, especially emotions and feelings, that can't be put into words.
Very often, eyes of a person and music can tell you more than any word in the world ever could.
 

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We humans can communicate a lot of what we feel but a lot is still lost in translation, for example if words are sufficient to pass on a message or feeling, why do things like music exist?
Personally I think music can say what simple words can't, it's a +1 usually. For something technical like a scientific paper though, it wouldn't do.

Currently there are ways like internet forums, image boards, texts, fb(?) etc for the sake of communicating, do you think these are sufficient? And in future with tech like VR at rise do you think this will evolve further, how do you think people will communicate in the future?
Our language is ****ed in the future, George Orwell knew what was coming with newspeak. That said though, I'd be happy with guttural sounds than reverting back to images like we're doing lately, Who else has gotten something with these new picture instructions and no words, it's ****ing annoying.
 

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It depends on your definition of language and your standard for sufficient.

Assuming the normal, perhaps a better question is whether its meant to sufficient in the first place. It could be like a gear or steering wheel for a car, meant to work with other parts.
 
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Do words even mean anything at all alone? The principle of absolute freedom of speech comes from the idea that words do not inherently mean anything at all. They don't have an inherent meaning. The field that studies the emergence of meaning, loosely, is semiotics. Though, or maybe because the idea of meaning seems to be so obvious and basic that it needs no further explanation, it has proven exceptionally slippery to pin down. We do not live the same reality, even though it is at core level the same for everyone. Hearing a sentence might have a completely different impact depending on who's listening.
 

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It depends on your definition of language and your standard for sufficient.

Assuming the normal, perhaps a better question is whether its meant to sufficient in the first place. It could be like a gear or steering wheel for a car, meant to work with other parts.
I agree with it, it's like when you cover face it becomes very difficult to understand someone. That's just a naive example though.

Do words even mean anything at all alone? The principle of absolute freedom of speech comes from the idea that words do not inherently mean anything at all. They don't have an inherent meaning. The field that studies the emergence of meaning, loosely, is semiotics. Though, or maybe because the idea of meaning seems to be so obvious and basic that it needs no further explanation, it has proven exceptionally slippery to pin down. We do not live the same reality, even though it is at core level the same for everyone. Hearing a sentence might have a completely different impact depending on who's listening.
I figured the same, is that all things are neutral props, and depending on the state of being of one the meaning is defined, even same word in different languages could mean entirely different things, and two people in different state of beings could perceive tings differently. Hell, even bad words can be knowingly taken and used for your benefit if you're in a good state of being.

I agree that we all live in our own realities like a bubble and create a common grounds for the purpose of communication or to get done whatever needs to be done. It's the chess analogy, the items on board look very similar and represent two entities or element - the people playing but the people are far more different than how different the chess pieces are, they've just agreed to act or temporarily become similar for the extent of the game, I think existence on Earth is similar.
 
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