Is Kyuubi apart of RSM Naturally?

[Jokule67]

Still didn't answer, you said ashura and toneri had rsm, ashura I believe but toneri, hell no, he had a chakra mode from the fillergan, no more no less

Only Six Paths works against Six Paths. And only Six Paths goves birth to Truth Seeker Orbs.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Yes, the eye pattern confirms Six path Senjutsu being composed of bijuu chakra

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Ok fair enough

 

[Jokule67]

Yes, the eye pattern confirms Six path Senjutsu being composed of bijuu chakra

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Yes I agree. Although I dont think it a necessity. Just a more superior route to go.

It is confirmed by DB to be a gift directly granted by Hagaromo. So in Narutos case it just added to all the powers he was already gaining. Or set him up to have the most ideal form attainable.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

No...Kurama didn't make naruto a transmigrant but Naruto gained RSM because he was a transmigrant.

That being the case the answer to your question is yes, but no bigger or smaller than any of the other bijuu

 

[rollin]

The scan is essentially saying that Madara being a jinchuriki is what allowed Hagroomo to surface.

Hashirama is also Ashura's descendant, The Kyuubi makes up most of the Juubi's chakra and Madara is a transmigrant of Indra. Even though he said the same thin it equates to MAdara being a Jin is what made him be able to surface because he had:

-Kyuubi chakra
-Ashira's Chakra through Hashirama implant
-Indara's chakra through himself

Doesn't really say being a host is apart of rsm power.



Yeah my bad he got a rikudo mode because of the tenseigan but it's very comparable to RSM. No where was it stated that being a host was apart of rsm power

obito went back to rsm after he absorbed the one-tails and eight-tails chakra to give to naruto

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naruto's never used rsm without his eyes at least showing kurama's pupils and he's done it before

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[Amazeballs]

RSM seems to be a result of the Bijuu chakra combining to form a powerful source of natural energy, like how when the Bijuu (which are not individually made of natural energy) combined to form the Juubi (which is made of natural energy). Basically, RSM = stronger Bijuu chakra and stronger senjutsu compared to BSM. When it comes to Bijuu chakra, the whole is greater than the sum of its pays. Naruto only gained a tiny bit of one-tails and eight-trails chakra, yet those pieces transformed his BSM into RSM.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Only Six Paths works against Six Paths. And only Six Paths goves birth to Truth Seeker Orbs.

Does naruto actually use rsm in the last though? Isn't it just kcm or bcm? You've got me with the tso's though

 

[V h o]

No kurama is not. Minus additional chakra, tbb, and bijuu form and RSM feats from other bijuu .So you still have flight, enhanced sensing and reflexes, tsb, enhanced strength, etc.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Naruto's RSM is made up of Frog Sage Mode and the power of all nine Bijuu chakra which was gifted by Hagoromo. The Kyubi is involved. You can't have the RSM without it and without it there would be no six paths senjutsu.

 

[Jokule67]

Does naruto actually use rsm in the last though? Isn't it just kcm or bcm? You've got me with the tso's though

The novel says it a psuedo Six Paths Kyuubi Chakra Mode.

Basically KCM+SixPaths+Sage Mode.

Six Paths Sage Mode fully encompasses Naruto with Six Paths. The Last just has its foot in the door.

 

[Jokule67]

Naruto's RSM is made up of Frog Sage Mode and the power of all nine Bijuu chakra which was gifted by Hagoromo. The Kyubi is involved. You can't have the RSM without it and without it there would be no six paths senjutsu.

No. In the Last he used a psuedo RSM and in Boruto movie he used RSM.

 

[Nick01]

So you admit that naruto destroyed sasuke even after naruto was nerfed into oblivion.

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[SenseiSama]

No. In the Last he used a psuedo RSM and in Boruto movie he used RSM.

No, in both movies he used BSM.

Without the chakra of all 9 bijuu he just has superior Sage Mode and BM than what he had prior to meeting the Sage. But if he was using RSM his chakra cloak would have the 9 tomoe design on the back like the JuubiJins and Hagoromo.

Six Path Senjutsu is the Juubi's chakra therefore the bijuus are required for Naruto to produce it

 

[Jokule67]

No, in both movies he used BSM.

Without the chakra of all 9 bijuu he just has superior Sage Mode and BM than what he had prior to meeting the Sage. But if he was using RSM his chakra cloak would have the 9 tomoe design on the back like the JuubiJins and Hagoromo.

Six Path Senjutsu is the Juubi's chakra therefore the bijuus are required for Naruto to produce it

Canon Novel says otherwise. Refer back to what I said about the ideal form(The one with TSB, rinnegan pattern and magatama on back). That is the form that needs all 9 bijuu. That is the highest form Naruto can attain.

Other than that Naruto can still enter RSM. He did it in Gaiden, The Last and Boruto movie.

That heightened Sage Mode you mentioned is RSM. Thats exactly what RSM is. A heightened state granted by Six Paths. The bijuu complement that power and breeds new power.

 

[00Rinne]

I think they are all part of RSM. But the thing about Naruto's RSM is he has Kurama mixed with his Rikudou mode so it's basically an amped up version of what Hogo's Rikudou mode is/was. The difference would be is Hogo is direct descent of Kaguya so their Rikudou mode are different.

I believe Hogoromo's chakra is far beyond any1 under him. For instance, lets say Naruto & Hogo used the same tech!. I think Hogo would win because his power is direct source from Juubi/Kaguya while Naruto's chakra is strong it's still deluded, but gives him the same result on a smaller scale. (Compared to Hogo)

 

[Jokule67]

I think they are all part of RSM. But the thing about Naruto's RSM is he has Kurama mixed with his Rikudou mode so it's basically an amped up version of what Hogo's Rikudou mode is/was. The difference would be is Hogo is direct descent of Kaguya so their Rikudou mode are different.

I believe Hogoromo's chakra is far beyond any1 under him. For instance, lets say Naruto & Hogo used the same tech!. I think Hogo would win because his power is direct source from Juubi/Kaguya while Naruto's chakra is strong it's still deluded, but gives him the same result on a smaller scale. (Compared to Hogo)

I would agree if not for Naruto recieving half of Hagaromos chakra directly from him.

I think the difference would be that Hago has both halves instead of 1half.

If Sasuke/Naruto used a tech in conjunction they would easily be on hagos level.

 

[00Rinne]

I would agree if not for Naruto recieving half of Hagaromos chakra directly from him.

I think the difference would be that Hago has both halves instead of 1half.

If Sasuke/Naruto used a tech in conjunction they would easily be on hagos level.

Agreed! But Sasuke isn't jin, though he has Hogo's chakra. I still don't think they could equal Hogo with the same tech. All their power is because of Hogo & it's not full to his extent (direct source) like his.

Indra/Ashura would have a better chance at what Naruto/Sasuke could do if applying these same logic
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