Is Kurama a smarter fighter than Naruto?
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You’re asking if an immortal entity who has lived for hundreds of years, was in the company of the Sage of six paths, directly involved in a fight between Madara and Hashirama.
Fought Hashirama, and fought the silver and gold brothers
Is smarter in battle than a 40 year old who used to receive Fs in the academy.
Do you think about your questions before you ask them?
I mean think about it.
If you’re implying Naruto’s battle tactics are all Kurama’s then you’ve obviously not been paying attention.
Naruto uses shadow clone for trial and errors in combination with feints and unorthodox thinking from his years of troublemaking (kitsune trait).
He’s displayed his skill to hold his own in battle without guidance of Kurama and even more dangerous with Kurama providing intel from his centuries of living and combat experience.
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UCHIHAKUNOICHI
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Ignoring your attempt to be condescending I believe battle IQ wise Naruto is smarter in battle than Kurama. Why?
1) Shadow Clone development through shared knowledge and training
2) SM for heightened awareness
3) Learns from his mistakes
4) Literally fought every well experienced fighter in the series.
As for your Kurama statements. While yes he lived longer Kurama is not smarter than Naruto in battle due to:
1) He is restricted without a host
2) He was held captive when he did have a host (Until Naruto)
3) When he did fight he was under Madara's Control so one could argue he was unaware of his actions
4) During the sage's reign Kurama had no consciousness as he was still apart of the Juubi up until the Sage was about to die so that point is not valid at all.
Did you think about your answer before trying to derail my question?
He didn't see the sage fighting as the sage was the Juubi's Jin. Kurama didnt exist until after the split which was right before the sage died
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None of which you said trumps the fact that Kurama has lived centuries and seen and been involved in many battles. He was aware of his actions.
Unless you’re implying Rinnegan rikudou genjutsu is weaker than that of Madara’s.
He’s lived with the Sage longer than that. He didn’t create them on his deathbed.
Host or not, he’s still witnessed many battles and more knowledgeable.
Naruto is good in battle but Kurama edges him out due to his lifespan and sharing the same experiences Naruto does.
Look at the Gai/Naruto/Kakashi vs Obito fight and his strategy.
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The most Kurama has done feat-wise was gather senjutsu and hand Kakashi chakra. Naruto could've done as much. Kurama's only real edge in both were knowing his own capabilities. I can't see Kurama doing something as simple as this,
He strikes me more as a brute anyways seeing how he's the strongest tailed beast.
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He strikes me more as a brute anyways seeing how he's the strongest tailed beast.
salamander uchiha
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Kurama had understanding which spans over a thousand years of witnessing. Naruto's smarts are below Kiba's there's nothing that could ever make them equal.
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Show me feats from Kiba that outshines Naruto’s battle smarts.
Keep in mind he’s had about 2 fights in the entire series. So this shouldn’t be hard for you.
You bandwagon fans say some amazing things.
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People are either underrating Kurama or underrating Naruto.
Both have battle smarts but Kurama simply knows more than Naruto due to his lifespan and experiences. He edges him out on this.
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Kiba vs Naruto part 1 although kiba lost to a fart. Naruto's battle smarts extend from kurama's stamina boost and spamming clones. Not from his own innate smarta as you seem to assume.
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You’re using part 1 Naruto feats nearly a decade in the past as foundation to explain to me how Kiba is smarter.
When in that same fight, he outsmarts Kiba.
You’re also using the argument that due to Kurama reserves that he can spam clones and has stamina when it doesn’t support your argument whatsoever. Naruto receives trial and error via clones in combination with his unorthodox thinking. Something Kakashi notes in that same fight and in the fight against kakazu.
You want to try again? Where has Kiba shown to be battle smart in a way that exceeds Naruto.
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salamander uchiha
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Not really they were equals at that time and he would've lost had it not been for the fart. Like I've said Naruto's smarts aren't all that, non existent he didn't even know that you gain the knowledge of the shadow clones and he'd been training with Jiraiya and spamming them since part 1. Even after learning about the shadow clones and how to use them from Kakashi his use and smarts from that point extend from his ability to spam SC's which is dependant on being Kurama's jin.
By part 3 however I admit he's no longer stupid.
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“At the time”
You’re using a isolated fight and showing ignorance of his other feats while contributing all his tactics to Kuram’s chakra. That holds no weight because he could have all the chakra in the world and still lose (like Kaguya) without tact.
Naruto isn’t booksmart but he’s ingenious in battle so it’s a given he didn’t know he could gain intel via clones.
You’re completely changing the argument as well and trying to deflect.
Show me Kiba feats that outshines Naruto overall. If you can’t, then concede.
salamander uchiha
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What have book smarts got to do with receiving knowledge directly to yourself? The clone poofs out and its experience returns to the user. You'd have to super retarded not to know your seeing what they saw or feeling what they felt. And guess what he's been using them to battle since part 1. Ingenious I think not.
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UCHIHAKUNOICHI
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He may have not seen himself, but in oracles etc. He at least has a very keen knowledge about his fighting style. And if he knows that ancient - and it's really ancient indeed lol- style there is no fighting style he at least didn't heard about.
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