Is Kishi telling us the Rasenshuiriken and Giant Rasengan is not a Senjutu?

[Sage6paths]

Both Toad Sage Naruto and Toad Sage Jiraiya got their jutsu mentioned above absorbed by one of the 6 path of peins.

Yet, it didnt turned into a stone.

What is going on?

The chakra of Kurama is also supposed to be natural energy. No?

All the while I thought Kurama's chakra is similar to natural energy and thus, equal Senjutsu when used.

Hell I am confused.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

That was caused by an overload of senjutsu chakra, just absorbing a sage mode attack wont kill you.

 

[iNotorious]

I don't understand kishi's logic at all in this chapter but oh well

 

[Sage6paths]

That was caused by an overload of senjutsu chakra, just absorbing a sage mode attack wont kill you.

Even so, absorbing a little natural energy should be enough to caused Pein guy to show some traits of a frog? No?

 

[The Work]

He used Senjutsu to create the Rasengan

 

[Gatsuuga]

Did the Pain guy ever actually absorb one? I remember him absorbing a transformed Naruto and getting crash tackled.

 

[ankitpsaraogi]

Even so, absorbing a little natural energy should be enough to caused Pein guy to show some traits of a frog? No?

I understand ur point. infact it is said that the Rasen Shuriken had half of the total natural energy which Naruto stored


but he never absorbed Rasen Shuriken
He absorbed a transformation Jutsu

But Madara absorbed a Rasen Shuriken

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Absorbing a little bit of sage chakra isn't going to turn a shinobi into stone.This was shown during naruto's training.And i don't remember it every being mention that a tail beast chakra is nature energy.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Consider natural energy to be the cosmos energy follow rafiki he knows the way!

 

[Vegeto30294]

Pain did absorb a Rasenshruiken

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[AGoodBoy]

It doesn't work like that.

Sage mode can be absorbed. Nothing would happen to anybody who absorbs it. The problem arrives when someone is collecting sage chakra and suddenly stops. This would usually cause the user to turn into stone, but if someone is absorbing their chakra, the 'absorber' turns into stone as well.

In other words, you can only turn to stone absorbing senjutsu chakra, if the senjutsu user would have turned to stone. Basically, the transformation is passed over

 

[Anorien16]

Well did anyone notice that the Rasengan used by Naruto in 642 is larger than the normal variey but smaller than the Odama ....... so it might be a differernt variety of Rasengan. Not to mention absorbing lil amount of Senjutsu chakra doesnt kill (but may cause a lil physical transformation), a lot of unbalanced Senjutsu chakra petrifies.

 

[Almighty Ra]

He used both jutsu before even becoming a sage but As a Sage he has perfected them and taken them to a different level..He couldn't use Rasenshuriken due to the backlash it had on the user and in Sage mode his body is stronger and not effected by it.