Is kishi playing me Hashirama God of shinobi?

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Haha. How does it feel hiruzen fanboys? Burns don't it.

I have a few things to complain about. Kishi made it obvious in part 2 that hashirama was the strongest through madara but previously in his manga lets say part 1, he clearly stated that is was hiruzen who was said to be God of shinobi. Anyone find this a troll move by kishi? That he decided hashirama will be the strongest and completely just changed to god of shinobi quote from hiruzen to hashirama.



I was going to complain about hashirama's personality and how before he was nothing like that but hashirama and tobiramam was clearly just talking as zombies with no personalities when orochimaru first resurrected them. So I guess I was wrong to assume they was exactly like they were in that moment.



Anyway how do you guys feel about the god of shinobi switch? which was obvious from when madara was resurrected anyway

 

[The Necromancer]

It was obvious. There have been so many attempts at retconing the strongest hokage by kishi, but hiruzen fans just hang on to the past.

 

[Zlad]

He was the god of shinobi in his time, I thought that was obvious? After that another person surpassed him and got the title. If Suigetsu's words are ok then hell, Iruka's, Orochimaru's and Kabuto's words are even more worth.

No i'm not Hiruzen fanboy or anything but we have to wait and see. Hiruzen have lived much longer than Hashirama

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

Kishi didn't know what to do, so he changed the hype from Hiruzen to Hashi. Simple.

 

[rollin]

i think kishi does things like that on purpose, even minato has some crazy hype about him because jiraiya and A said they thought he would never be surpassed
it just shows other people's opinions in the manga instead of saying only one person is the strongest
and besides after tobirama died and appointed hiruzen hokage,hiruzen was probably the strongest shinobi for a while

 

[GwemBaba]

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Don't let it flame!

 

[medal32]

hiruzen was hyped up couse he was about to fight orochi, this way it would look more "epic"

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

It was obvious. There have been so many attempts at retconing the strongest hokage by kishi, but hiruzen fans just hang on to the past.

Very true stuck in part 1 and the power levels at that time.

He was the god of shinobi in his time, I thought that was obvious? After that another person surpassed him and got the title. If Suigetsu's words are ok then hell, Iruka's, Orochimaru's and Kabuto's words are even more worth.

No i'm not Hiruzen fanboy or anything but we have to wait and see. Hiruzen have lived much longer than Hashirama

Woo after that another person surpassed him? I didn't see anyone getting excited over hiruzen there. Madara's words and what we have seen from him are much more worth then orochimaru and kabuto. Stands in front of 5 kages and say this is child's play and are nothing compared to hashirama.

Anyway you hiruzen fans need to open your eyes, kishi has changed things to hashirama being the most important and the strongest with a god like figure not hiruzen. We ain't in part 1 anymore things have changed.

Kishi didn't know what to do, so he changed the hype from Hiruzen to Hashi. Simple.

I don't think it was a case of not knowing what to do, but more of a case of being more realistic.

i think kishi does things like that on purpose, even minato has some crazy hype about him because jiraiya and A said they thought he would never be surpassed
it just shows other people's opinions in the manga instead of saying only one person is the strongest
and besides after tobirama died and appointed hiruzen hokage,hiruzen was probably the strongest shinobi for a while

Yh I agree, but from what we have "seen" hashirama and madara was leagues above everybody else by what madara has done, and calling the 5 kages child's play and nothing compared to hashirama.

Just like how naruto and sasuke will probably become to everyone else. Its like comparing konohamaru to naruto, when comparing hiruzen to hashirama. We have to be real and look at the power levels imo

 

[Kages]

'But we cant take a fooder's word for so Suigestu is lying' was how Hashirama fans sounded when Iruka hyped Hiruzen. Both are God of Shinobi, that was obvious

 

[KidGamer65]

Kishimoto obviously intends to have Hashirama as the strongest Hokage and not Hiruzen....it should of been obvious to anyone who is reading the manga now.

 

[TheRealSkyKNight]

ROTFL i find this thread hilarious for a few reasons ...1 It's very clear you are a Hashirama fanboy .Calling someone a fanboy is the worst thing you can think of strictly cause people won't take your opinion as fact ......nothing in the manga states he was the strongest Hokage ..except for madara who never fought any other Hokage in that time ..nor any shinobi that could match him ...It's like a dude being sprung over 1 female ...and saying she's the best he's ever had ....

2. ...When people kept saying "Iruka Stated this" It's fodder ...yet Suigetsu saying this is the saddest attempt and most trash statement ever ..on top of that ...You have to be the worst Hashi fanboy for calling most Hiruzen Fan Boys, over what they "think" is facts ....stating he was the strongest is much better than going over "unclear" statements from Madara who is the only Shinobi who has see Hashi work ...In addition can any of you quote a chapter that proves this ? I'm so confused ..i only seen hashi as an Edo ...
what mystery chapter depicts the fight vs madara ? i hear statements ...the same one's i hear about Hiruzen ...


Lastly ..Kishi is an idiot, he's never correct or coherent ...lets be real Chapter 466 proves Hidden Mist Ninjas are fodder ..
Chojiro states "Sasuke killed Zabuza" LOL

 

[TheRealSkyKNight]

I agree, I mean chapter 466 Chojiro says about sasuke ..."This is the Guy who killed Zabuza" Hidden mist ninjas are ass and useless....It's clear Kishi is on some messed up ****...Still Hiruzen was called the Professor ..unless Tobirama or Iruka are the actual Professors LMAO

 

[TheRealSkyKNight]

I agree but they way he did was so ass ...he could have bought Madara back ...and he could have said ..."Where is the God of Shinobi"